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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:16 am    Post Subject: dark blue beams?  

two young people saw a dark blue beam in the sky , around Xmas, at dusk, about sixty miles north of Canberra.......it extended in a straight line to the horizon.

these two were die-hard chemtrail sceptics, but having seen this, are now more humble

this was not a chemtrail or a shadow

more details and pictures coming, stay tuned
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smashdracs



Joined: 23 Nov 2005
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Location: Wellington NZ

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:32 am    Post Subject:  

Uh huh, sounds interesting....
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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:21 pm    Post Subject:  

yes, of course i was a bit prem calling it not a shadow

as yet , i don't have a date, or orientation, but the pictures may give the clues

presumably, it could have been something like darth vader's deathstar, between the sun and us, throwing a shadow on the smoky atmosphere
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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:21 pm    Post Subject:  

update on the dark blue beam

sighted on the evening of Monday the 7th of January, while driving northeast on the Hume Hwy just out of Yass

this mysterious aerial phenomenonwas observed from before sunset until late dusk, perhaps 40 minutes, during which time it did not change

it ran dead-straight in a NE-SW line, all the way to the horizon. the two observers drove directly under it at one stage, at which time they checked its orientation relative to the sun.......it was found to be 10 or 15 degrees out of line with the sun

its height was estimated to be below 5000 feet, very roughly speaking, from the change of aspect made by the motion of the car, also, it could be seen to be beneath some cumulus clouds, and the colour of the cloud was affected as if through the filter of this beam

the height could have been as low as two or three thousand feet. when compared with the angle subtended by the width of a hand at arms length, this beam was half as wide again

the description included some bizzarre details: there were , within the width of the beam, perfectly parallel lines, not evenly spaced, which could not be seen to run the full length........

pics are on the way, but i have not seen them yet

there is also an exact fix of the place where the car passed directly beneath the beam, but it needs clarifying and cross-checking............ the information , generally, is of very high quality
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Hector



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Wellington

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:13 pm    Post Subject:  

Aw, steve, Y-O-Y are you posting/posing this in the UFO category? You don't want to derail your own topic, do you? In the interests of good housekeeping, could you re-post in one of the Weather topics? The answer is fairly straight forward, but it's nothing to do with UFOs. Cheers.

[Meteorological Question: here - Administrator]

While we're waiting for the photos of the .... well, let's wait until we see it before we name it, here's the sun position data for 7 Jan 2008 between 7pm and 10pm at Yass.

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Sun's azimuth and elevation on 7 Jan 2008
from Yass;  34°51'12" South   148°54'11" East

Local    Azimuth Elevation
 Time    degT    deg above horizon
 19:00   252.6    14.7
 19:15   250.7    11.8
 19:30   248.7     8.9
 19:45   246.7     6.1
 20:00   244.7     3.4
 20:15   242.6     0.8
 20:30   240.4    -2.2
 20:45   238.2    -4.9
 21:00   235.9    -7.5
 21:15   233.5   -10.0
 21:30   230.9   -12.5
 21:45   228.3   -14.8
 22:00   225.6   -17.1


This data was calculated by a program based on the page at http://www.srrb.noaa.gov/highlights/sunrise/azel.html
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Administrator



Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 70
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:41 pm    Post Subject:  

Hector wrote:
Aw, steve, Y-O-Y are you posting/posing this in the UFO category? You don't want to derail your own topic, do you? In the interests of good housekeeping, could you re-post in one of the Weather topics? The answer is fairly straight forward, but it's nothing to do with UFOs. Cheers.


Hector, please do not try and give the impression that you are a moderator on this site - you are not.

I considered the designation of Steve's post and let it stand in this category because I believe he is making a point about the unexplained nature of the beam phenomenon.

If you wish to throw your weight around, go and do it on your own site, in your own forums. Then you'll have the freedom to organise them as you desire them to be, just as we have with this one.
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Hector



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:46 pm    Post Subject:  

Thank you; noted.

I beg your pardon.

The post at https://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5959#5959 is not about the beam phenomenon.
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:55 pm    Post Subject:  

well, i'm sorry to cause trouble, but i thought there are some really good threads at the moment , and i thought i could slip this question in, so as not to bury other peoples' good work

i look forward to hearing something from you, Hector, sometime, about thunderheads without convection drivers

the data for azimuth and elevation in this case are irrelevant........the fact was established of independence from the sun by a careful and fortuitous observation, by young people of high observational ability

the ephemeris also establishes that Mercury, Venus and the moon, cannot have been casting a shadow from the light of the sun

the reported parallel lines are reminiscent of the sort of interference-generated standing waves that you can see between your own fingers if you hold two fingers close and look between them
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steve clougher



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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:39 pm    Post Subject:  

i've now seen some small prints........still waiting on the disc

looks very much like a huge god-beam, but the quality of the info and the size and duration of the sighting belie this
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Melody Anderson



Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 814
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:59 am    Post Subject:  

steve clougher wrote:
looks very much like a huge god-beam

Do you mean a crepuscular ray?
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:50 am    Post Subject:  

one of those rays you see emanating out the side of clouds, and specially at dawn and dusk........is that technically called crepuscular?

it has a bit of a different tone to it than god-beams, must say i prefer god-beams

psyching myself up to work through the irfanview tutorial, as soon as the cd of pics arrives
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