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ruapaka



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 339

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:27 am    Post Subject: Marlborough update ...  

We have had cloud cover for 4 days now - clearing a little as I type - no opportunities to see what happening above. With the cloud we got light to steady drizzle for some extended periods - more rain further inland - but no where near what we would expect for this area at this time of year. Local discussion on how dry it is - the native bush is dusty in parts ??? A local said last night she had never seen the native as dry as it is at this time. I have been watching the weather maps of Aus/NZ/Antartic ... I thought we would be in for some serious weather, still waiting. The drizzle has been excellent for penetrating the very dry ground.

The summer of 1996 here in Marlborough was very hot and dry .. maybe we in for another one.

Trails are still being laid ....
Last night (Wednesday) about 8:15 I spotted two segments of trails - different paths - still total cloud cover, but the segments were visible between clouds - just hanging there - appearing like they were slowly descending or stretching earthwards - I didn't have the camera, didn't think I would see anything ... Lesson: "Expect the unexpected"

A friend of a friend said ....
:wink:

.... the trail laying is about water ... water shortages, water rights being snatched up by ??? (bad guys) ... needing good guys to procure water rights.

My friend's friend is a canadian film/doco director who was convinced that water issues are behind the laying of persistent trails. I can't help but wonder- what with the decrease in rainfall for this area - how the clouds come and they go, little or no rain. ??? There's more than one way to skin a cat , and I bet there's more than one reason to do it.
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 977
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:00 pm    Post Subject:  

water has been a bone of contention between the USA and Canada for decades.

Canada has uncountable pristine lakes , and huge rivers, and has long resisted the US desire to buy , borrow and steal water

Canadian industry and finance , is of course , controlled from New York, as ours is, as well as all the primary produce, as far as the middle men are all theirs , and what small primary producers are left, are kept poor and impotent

even more painful, our minds are controlled from there too, but that is for another thread

when farms amalgamate, to become large "economic units", they are inevitably controlled by the banks and the agrochem goblins, and are vulnerable to takeover by corporations

American cities are incredibly thirsty.......... for over 100 miles around Los Angeles, there is an artificial desert , of many decades standing, caused by the city sucking the water out of the ground.

here in Australia, water is a real hot political potato..........the politics involved in state and federal squabbling would fill a book

the issue to focus on , is that the power-brokers are turning everything into a commodity, something that can be metered, bought, sold , charged interest on, gambled on in the futures market, fought over, you name it.

these things are not the property of aristocratic parasites.

they belong to all life on earth

they are the necessities of life , not commodities

that Canadian man is right, but look at the other things that have recently become commodities...........fishing quotas, grain production contracts,you name it

to to run a fishing boat, you need a boat licence, a fishing licence, a quota for each target species, several other things of the same sort , most of which are transferrable, tradeable commodities, most of them are owned by investors

in other words, faceless, invisible and in many ways useless people are creaming money for nothing, and the real worker is permanently over a barrel.

now, probably because a bunch of spoilt brats in "thinktanks" have temporarily run out of things to "commodify" , they've come up with carbon credits!!!!! a commodity which doesn't involve any hard work for anyone!!!! in this sense, carbon credits are the truly democratic product

thank you ruapaka, for lending me a soapbox

steve
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secondfield



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 377

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:16 am    Post Subject:  

I remember reading a thread with a link somewhere that mentioned that trails,once spread out, were charged with EM (electromagnetic) energy to produce the opposite charge to that which the rain in the clouds below had on it. Hence the conductive aliminum and barium seen in trail samples. Barium is a main ingredient utilised in the construction of 'capacitors' which store an electrical charge.

This resulted in the rain being 'held up' in the clouds until they passed the area...

They charged the trails utilising high power radio frequency delivered over the shortwave spectrum (HF) or possibly by sattellite. Maybe even just the action of high powered local AM radio transmitters is enough to 'charge up' these chemtrails.... You can sometimes see 'rippling' effects in the crud or surrounding cloud which could be the EM signature...

Yesterday afternoon and this morning in Wellington trails could be seen criss-crossing over the Kapiti coast and out west (Porirua/Titahi bay). Off regular flight vectors. The rain clouds were heavy and black @ 5pm yesterday. They definately wanted to unload. Alas, there were lots of trails above them and guess what? It didnt rain, not a drop....

I dont think its any use calling ATC (air traffic control) to find out whose planes they are. The reason why is 'secondary' radar is employed by the CAA to track all flights... If someone can tell us what this is and how it works, we may possibly learn something about what can (or cant!) be seen traversing our skies...

Oh by the way Steve, you should be made prime minister of aussie.... :-)
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 977
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:34 am    Post Subject:  

looks like you're onto something , with the charged particle stuff, secondfield

buddy, there's no way i'm qualified to lead anyone anywhere, i'm struggling to hold alpha male status in my own home, against the 17-year-old cat
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smashdracs



Joined: 23 Nov 2005
Posts: 1002
Location: Wellington NZ

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:25 pm    Post Subject:  

Trails west of and above Wellington late this afternoon. I saw plenty of "chemcrud" drifting overhead from Marlborough earlier in the day. I have been taking pics over the last few weeks and will upload them to flikr tonight...
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