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[magical1]

Hey all

Well I keep waking up at the moment having chem trail dreams and my neck is sore from looking up.

Today there were dubious clouds over Wellington but looked like drift from Marlborough instead of direct spraying. We are dry dry dry here and haven't had rain since the huge thunder storm two Tuesday nights ago, which is unusual. Read a report today of predicted droughts this summer. Any wonder when a front comes in and then they spray.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4296921a11.html

Anyway look under "Weather Modification" in an internet search and you get this type of site and the equipment they openly use...

http://www.weathermod.com/seeding_equipment.php

So to a novice what is the difference between this type of activity and chem trails? I ask with and interest in your responses.

[steve clougher]

hi , magical1 , i've been asking for a while if anyone has connected chem with drought in NZ , as i believe i have here

summers , lately , have seen such full-on spraying that there's no visible connection between spray and disappointment vis-a-vis rain

summers here are hot and dry , anyway

winter is another matter

when there is a months-long set of observations , that connects chemspray with rain-disappointment , you start to feel you're onto something

why would the neocon/powermad/bankster/illuminasty (whatever) cartel want to subject us to drought?

well ,they have utterly ruined Europe, and they'd like a nice place to live

they have established their superiority , on the basis of a daring con job , supplying cash (small) and credit (huge) ,to much of the world , for a few hundred years, keeping their position by ruthless suppression of competition , and by assiduously cultivating the possibilities of mesmerising the great mass of humanity with commodified distractions , illusions , triggers to infantilisation (bambi , Yoda-my-name-is) , and , yes , terror

who controls the food supply now? on the huge amalgamated farms of the world , are there farmers who control what they do? or are the decisions co-opted by Monsanto , and the banks , who have the title deeds to that land , firmly , legally , in their grasp?

having swung the world by the tail with their clever financial finangling , the money men now want something more tangible to call their own , ......LAND

if they have the technology to impose drought secretly , and the indications are that they very well may have it , why would they not use it to ratchet up their grip on the ownership of land?

we are talking of people who have instigated war , periodically for a couple of centuries at least , purely to serve their own psychotic agenda for dominance and self-aggrandisement

it does not seem like too much of a long bow to draw , to me

steve

from the Tao Te Ching (circa 500 BC)

"When the empire is in order , even chariot-horses are stabled for their dung
When the empire is in chaos , warhorses will be bred in the suburbs
No guilt is greater than to approve of covetousness
No disaster is greater than not to know what is enough
No fault is more disastrous than the compulsion to acquire

For , to know that enough is enough , is to always have enough

[magical1]

Well thanks for that Steve (I think) hahahahaha

Still unsure if cloud seeding and chemtrailing are the same thing though.

In Wellington we are getting weather that most of us wouldn't complain about. Excpet the ones who are concerned about chemtrails. Most are anticipating a long, hot, early summer. When the forecasters tell us rain is on the way they usually get it right. It rains and is windy alot. Hey we don't live here for the weather lets face it. I've lived here my whole life and we have had an incredibly dry winter and now look like we are going to have a summer which we normally pretty much miss out on.

I am a gardener and grow all my own veges so I take a great interest in rain fall. When they said it would rain on Tuesday I didn't water. No rain came. Today rain is forecasted, its tried really hard so far. Nothing but a few spits. It's very very fishy.

I'll keep you in the loop as to how the day pans out. Who knows it may bucket down any minute! Hope so I am getting tired of being attached to the end of a hose every night.

[steve clougher]

cloud-seeding is not the same as chemtrails at all , magical1 , but (given that our speculations about chemtrails are roughly right), they both involve weather control , using the pollution of the atmosphere with chemicals

further , there is a website detailing a weather-control venturer in tropical climes , using resonance technology ,which you can easily find by googling "Trevor Constable"

further , there are many people talking about modifying weather through the discipline of Wilhelm Reich's "orgone"

when i lived in Sydney for six months , in 1981-2 , it rained every single weekend

i was sure it was an aboriginal plot

now i realise it was dick cheney , all along

[magical1]

All Good info thank you!!!!!!

Still no rain. Blue skies! I'm sure that is because they have spent 2 million on having David Beckham here this weekend. Yes please lets show the world how fab Wellie can be on a fine clear day!

I think that it's all about weather but lots of conflicting info to take in. Still unsure....

Thanks for your insight and the link

[steve clougher]

yeah , after long study , i don't think it's possible yet , to know what chemtrails are all about........have you looked at the HAARP stuff?.......that would seem to me to feed in

probably we'll never know, but it would seem that we are obligated to research , and spread the word , for the sake of our own survival..........that's how i see it , i'm just a simple man

i'm off now , to hang off the blunt end of a hose , which i have done every day (bar three) for months , and same the last two summers, which are basically five months in duration.

yes i'm sick of it , and BTW , i don't mind if Arnie tells me what to do.......he's going to have to learn to take NO for an answer a lot , though......character-building , good for him

[magical1]

hahahahaha Steve!

Well that is good that you would say NO to Arnie or anyone come to that! it means you are in the minority that don't want to be told what to do and say.

I'd like to think that I am becoming less and less of a brain washed sheep myself.... Though since I have taken that stand I have had to pick my fights with the 95% I've found that not only are people brain dead they are also deaf.

I pass on info I have gathered about pharma drugs, contaminated food, GE and chemtrails. All I can do is plant the seed of doubt I guess. Hard with Chem because there is nothing set in concrete with evidence. What is easy for people to understand though is the increasing illness there seems to be after a spray. That in the end will make people start looking up.

[steve clougher]

you think i'm funny now? just wait till i try to be funny!

funny thing , though , about people being deaf to what they do not wish to hear

you and i aren't like that!................well , i'm quite sure i'm not................

have you perused the MNZ archives on the health threads ? there's a massive amount of stuff there........what can you add about flouride? .......that debate has flared again in this region , with many small towns about to be "updated" and dentists on the radio , spouting the best science that dirty money can buy

i heard of a study done in Chicago , years ago , when flouride was introduced , the crime rate went down by one percent, which , in Chicago , apparently equates to a lot of crime

there have been mutterings , from time to time , about flouride making people more compliant, do you know anything about that?

i believe the chemtrails make me stiff and sore , and slow to get motivated , but it's hard to prove.......age might come into it , just barely , and the heat has been diabolical , the last two summers............at least we don't have flouride in our water , just aluminium oxide and barium stearate........delightful