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18 Nov spray day for Marlborough
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ruapaka



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:09 pm    Post Subject: 18 Nov spray day for Marlborough  

First check of sky at 8:30am - pale blue - a very thin haze. By 10am trails visible - western and eastern skies looking pretty much as here.

The day is one of those beaitifully clear warm spring days - a gentle warm NW breeze blowing and not a cloud in the sky - not even one little puff - in any direction ... BUT there are plenty of trails and whispy streaks and fat blurry bands - S-N and W-E direction - all drifting westward..

It's currently 4pm and still fresh trails in sky ... these types of days usually end with a beautiful clear blue sky - we'll see ...

I have uploaded some images (4 at this stage) to show the type and progression of the laying. - will post link when available.
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ruapaka



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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:55 pm    Post Subject:  

I saw trails litter the sky from around 10am until dark ... I was wrong about it clearing. The sky has been very busy here today. How's it been elsewhere? I have uploaded more images (8 in total) ... link forthcoming ASAP.

Steve - I checked the weather maps at MetService and no fronts in next couple of days ...
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smashdracs



Joined: 23 Nov 2005
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:49 am    Post Subject:  

Wellington got slammed.

I saw drift coming over from Marlborough at 7am this morning.
At 12pm the sky over Wellington was well hazed and trails were visible.

By 3.30pm the sky was a shambles of trail spread and yet more trails were being laid out.

This was a very heavy spray day!

I took many photos. I will share some of them soon.....
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smashdracs



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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:15 am    Post Subject:  

I photographed an unusual looking aircraft during this event...






I took about 7 photos of the above shown craft. They all appear to show the same anomaly at the front end of the jet....
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smashdracs



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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:19 am    Post Subject:  

OK not the front end but 1/3 back from the front, the jet has some sort of bulbous appendage not like anything I have photographed before. I can upload high res pics to Flikr and provide a link if anyone has to have a closer look....
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ruapaka



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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:39 am    Post Subject:  

Smash, early in the morning II saw a plane with a long trail which was dissipating quickly rather than spreading and drifting. The plane was white, but it was sort of blending into the blue of the sky - ran to get binoculars - a couple of seconds later the trail viewable (still being laid) but the plane was not? Maybe there is a scientific answer to cover this, but I was suspicious - cloaking/reflecting??

Also, I noticed a lot of 'sylph' like formations later in the day - from my observations, the norm for this type of spray day.
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Deano



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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:37 pm    Post Subject:  

Yep sunday was a spray day alright first major activity in a while...

Smash I will take a look at the hi-res pics you took if you please. Looks like the same aircraft as we had here.
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smashdracs



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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:16 pm    Post Subject:  

I will upload a couple of the full size photos of it to Flikr tomorrow and you can download them for yourself Deano.

I have taken dozens of photos of craft in the sky but none of them have the "attachment" you can see in the pics visible on them. First time I have ever seen anything like this in photos.
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smashdracs



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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:21 am    Post Subject:  

Hmm, I just looked at the NOAA Satellite images for this day and there arent any..

http://satellite.landcareresearch.co.nz/noaa/


The satellites always seem to break down on heavy spray days...
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ruapaka



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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:33 pm    Post Subject:  

I see what you mean Smash ... I went and checked out the archives at Landcare ... 25 October was a definite spray day here in Marlborough - the following day also but not as intense, although a large mat of woven chemtrails sat over the lower Pelorus area for most of the day ... back to the archives ... 25 October is listed but instead of 4 progressive images there is only 1 at 10:13am. There are no images listed for 26 Oct. There are no images for days from 16th Nov.

Secondfield posted a link to a German TV station report on chemtrails and a local meteorologist - substantiated accusations of satellite image tampering by the military . Thank you Secondfield - very interesting - also uplifting to see some serious coverage .. watch that space. Link below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVc9GX5K_As


I have seen 3 trails (could be more) so far today (Tues 20th) - all on the same flight path - faint, but persistent, twisting and spreading - no wind to mention so the trails are not drifting - very slowly dissipating. A beautiful clear day - needing to look carefully to see the faint infrequent trails today.
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secondfield



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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:01 pm    Post Subject:  

Yup, Sunday was a crazy day allright... very interesting about the sat images not coming up, perhaps someone could query them?
Ruapaka, its funny you should mention the 'dissappearing' aircraft. I had the same experience last year watching the sky from Petone beach. A low flying, fast-moving trailing aircraft came right along the hutt valley. I turned my van around to get a better veiw of it as it passed by ( I had just started going home) and the trail was visible but no aircraft!. Unless the damn thing turned 90 degrees and dissapeared over the wainuiomata hill there was absolutely no reason why I shouldnt be able to see it. I posted the observation (its here on the threads somewhere) and was at a loss for a logical explination. The trail ended abruptly over Wellington harbour. Went back to the same spot / time for a couple of months afterward but nothing seen. I would expect if it were a scheduled flight it would be on the same route / time. I couldnt garner flight explorer details of it as FE runs in real time and im not sure if archives are availible (??).
Re Sundays mess, I was out dirt biking in the Karipoti forest most of the day and saw the crap come in. Got home about 3pm and grabbed the mr's video cam and went and captured the remainder of the day from several locations north of Wgtn. Going to post this on you tube soon tied in with some other guerilla doco work im doing at the mo out this way. In the meantime heres a link to several Welly's webcam's located around town. Trails are clearly visible in some archived shots.

http://www.wn.co.nz/camera.php?cameraid=12&timestamp=2007-11-18+12%3A39
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ruapaka



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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:23 pm    Post Subject:  

I have been playing around in Flikr - wanting some images ready available . I can appreciate the restraints involved with running a life and a website and I am in no way grizzling. :)

I have a Flickr link to a the images I mentioned above ... a set of 8

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44694153@N00/sets/72157603239938566

Secondfield - Just today I came across an image of a trail in the process of being laid, without a plane (like a tail without a dog). Seen other's images also of same thing ...
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Melody Anderson



Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:08 pm    Post Subject:  

secondfield wrote:
FE runs in real time and im not sure if archives are availible (??).

Typically not. The professional version, which, I believe, can only be purchased by authorised people like pilots, does allow replay of archived files, which may be purchased through the Flight Explorer reps here.
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Melody Anderson



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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:11 pm    Post Subject:  

ruapaka wrote:
I can appreciate the restraints involved with running a life and a website and I am in no way grizzling

Thanks for your understanding :-) We have recently also had to put registration on admin approved to weed out the clowns...
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info4



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:08 pm    Post Subject:  

smashdracs wrote

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I will upload a couple of the full size photos of it to Flikr tomorrow and you can download them for yourself Deano.



Can I have that link as well please
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secondfield



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:10 am    Post Subject:  

Heres a link to flickr to see the days trail activities from a webcam perspective.
Play them as a fast slide show... the time is shown in the corner to...
The cam was located in wellington, facing south over the harbour. It is refreshed every 15 minutes and the pictures are downloadable and archived. Timestamp 1829 seems to have an orb or something in it ... the ones after 1900 have some unusual features in them, possibly light / reflection artefacts or cloudships, sylphs etc 8) Looking over wellington from the hutt valley the sky seemed crazy, definately the heaviest day since may 14th here...
Does anyone know of or has heard the term 'particlization'? I remember hearing it mentioned in a disclosure (ufo) doco as being highly classified by the shadow govt (US) but have been unable to garner any more insights/info as to what it may be. Someone I spoke to seemed to think it was the precipitation (creation) of matter out of waveforms (RF?) and energy (the reverse of an atomic bomb essentially). Dunno, anyway slightly off subject again....heres the pic's....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7123157@N05/show/with/2050357119/
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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:43 pm    Post Subject:  

hi, secondfield , i googled your "p" word , having a deep and abiding interest in the mystery of creation

this link seems to have a similar intellectual theme ...............hope it has something for you

http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=16&t=7879

i read it for a few minutes , until i was overcome with a profound conviction that i should forward-pass it to you , and go and mulch my potatoes

steve
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:05 am    Post Subject:  

i just remembered , i used to love this guy

J.G.Bennett (John Godolphin Bennett) , among creation theory philosophers

he died in 1974 , and produced a lot of good books , he talks about multi-dimensional geometries , and things like "pencils" , and works off a system in which , instead of boring old height, breadth , depth and time , he's got three space-like dimensions , as i recall , something like position , direction and spin , plus three corresponding time-like dimensions , linear time , eternity and "hyparxis", which , as i understand it , is the dimension which allows for a high frequency pulsing action , by which the universe is endowed with the ability to flow and change

he also has much more than an intellectual grip on things , going strong also on substantiating "being" and strengthening "will" , by various spiritual exercises and group activities

if my sources are correct , he talked to some of the same kind of people , (among many others) who taught Tesla how to develop his particular gifts

you won't find him in your neighborhood crystal shop , normally , but i'm sure Goodey's in Auckland (are they still there?) or the equivalent , would still carry his books
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ruapaka



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:58 pm    Post Subject:  

Smash, If you haven't seen this image before then you may find it interesting and could relate directly to the bulbous appendage you speak of.

The image is of a US Patent and Trademark Office webpage - the patent is for a Powder Contrail Generator ... I found it a few years back on a website looking into chemtrails etc (probably a link at BariumBlues) ..

here's a link to a copy at Flickr ... I would suggest downloading the image and enlarge to be able to read the print ...

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2054702540&size=o
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:39 am    Post Subject:  

two nitrogen tanks?

somewhere , there is an account of an airport employee , who observed three anomalous tanks in the toilet holding tanks compartment .

in this account , these were plumbed through to every second static eliminator , on the trailing edges of the mainplanes

this account has problems , the main one being that , at least in this country , and also in pics from elsewhere , chemtrails emanate from around the engines, if not from them

i reckon that bulbous appendage is some kind of radar/sonar, and is an indicator that the chemtrail op is under pressure to expand

smashdracs , did you post a hi-res picture?
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