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tonggrv



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:22 pm    Post Subject: The Conditioning of Mankind...Alien Friend or Foe?  

In the new movie "Invasion" The transformation brings peace through out the world, yet some still resist, why?

Are we being manipulated by entities in league with world governments, religions and corporations? Are they preparing the way for an extraterrestrial invasion?

I believe that if the answers to the above questions are in the affirmative, then this invasion will occur. It will not be as portrayed in the recent "War of the Worlds" movie. It will be subtler, more devious. Giant killing machines will not emerge from beneath the ground, instead these invaders will be welcomed with the warmest hospitality and an almost spiritual devotion.

If I am correct then this process has started and is progressing. The seeds have been sown, crops tended and the harvest anticipated.

Is this idea crazy, unbelievable?

What really bugs me is the fact that these invaders, extraterrestrials, the Greys, are being portrayed as cute and cuddly.

The California Milk Processor Board has been running a successful campaign featuring extraterrestrial craft abducting dairy cows. This campaign is in its second year and according to their publicity department has raised the profile and therefore sales of dairy products. This campaign even involves a role playing game with an alien coming to earth and avoiding capture.

A new advertising campaign features the Energizer Bunny who helps the occupants of a broken down flying saucer on the shoulder of the road. The bunny jumpstarts the craft and it raises off the ground and quickly disappears. Then, just as suddenly the craft reappears, and beams the bunny onboard the craft.

These two campaigns are examples of a process, that is slowly but surely, conditioning us to willingly accept an alien presence.

These promotions are part of a bombardment of messages that are meant to convince us that there is no alien threat. We are being conditioned just like Ivan Pavlov's dogs. But instead of our mouths salivating, we are being rewarded with a security blanket masquerading as knowledge, which relies on blind faith to keep us safe.

One way to ensure this security is to humanize the enemy by turning them into animated benign characters. These transformed and personified ETs are now non threatening with a diminished fear factor.

Make no mistake, this manipulation has been going on for a long time.


by Dirk Vander Ploeg

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Freedom



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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Location: Auckland NZ

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:21 am    Post Subject: Humankind is more PC these days.  

Have you ever considered that humans may actually be the product of an alien culture, manufactured to their design in order to meet their needs, dabbling on our species like gods. Life is likely to be a common occurrence throughout the universe and in the infinite other universe's that inhabit the limitless space. Alien species that solved the barriers of time have migrated endlessly from universe to universe, big bang to big bang, and brought with them tremendous powers beyond our imagination. It maybe that they have shead their physical form and have evolved into pure energy like a line of computer code in which case they us to be host beings to "ride" from life to life. These are the illuminati who run our lives, the elites, through their corporations and materialism, wars and religions, drugs and addictions, to keep us as pets and slaves until the resources are gone and the earth is ravished. At which point they will upload to their next host planet and species which they have already prepared genetically just as we humans were thousands of years before.........
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Deano



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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:56 pm    Post Subject:  

"One day the Anunnaki landed on Earth in spaceships. They were interested primarily in mining Earth's gold. Nibiru, it seemed, suffered from some atmospheric disturbance and gold flecks could be used to mitigate the effect of the disturbance on the planet's inhabitants. After mining the Earth for some time on their own, the Anunnaki decided to genetically engineer a slave race to do the mining for them...us!

After some time during which we were forced to work as slaves in the gold mines, some of the Anunnaki chose to interbreed with humans, creating a hybrid race. Not all of the Anunnaki were happy about this, however. As a result, when Nibiru was due to pass close to Earth in its predictable long-range orbit, some of the Anunnaki chose not to warn Earth's inhabitants of the possible danger. Nibiru's proximity caused the Great Flood on Earth, almost wiping the human race out. Some Annunaki were sympathetic, however and took steps to ensure that we survived."

Slave race seems a bit harsh he he and it was more to do with the constant demand for white powder gold or shem-an-na, mfkzt, highward fire-stone which the mined gold was made into.
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steve clougher



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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:16 pm    Post Subject:  

put yourself in the Annunaki position . you fly over Auckland/ Wellington/ Sydney/ Tauranga/ Hobart , where a very short time ago , were the most exquisite places probably for untold light-years, and what do you see? MacDonalds , BP , Shell , Caltex , million dollar mansions , on a few acres , with one solitary herd animal in the paddock , probably a retired trotter, no use to anyone , four cars , a quad bike , and two humans , whose intensity of consciousness, added together , wouldn't challenge that of a moderately intelligent toheroa

you have in your possession awesome weapons of unimaginable ferocity . what do you do ?

steve
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steve clougher



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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:40 pm    Post Subject:  

nobody wants to admit to reptilian reflexes?

ok , Freedom, ask yourself this question : if you could change the human condition , what would you do first?

would you consider the quarter-acre pavlova paradise ,that was the Auckland i was born in , a peaceful but somewhat rudderless place , to be a suitable setting for a humanity , which , by now , you have decreed immortal , pacific , secure , wise and happy?

remember , you are omnipotent , and your finger is hovering over the big red button

steve
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Deano



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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:12 pm    Post Subject:  

...or organise an impromptu bilderberger meeting and ask those annunaki kin of mine why the slaves havent been chipped yet...
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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:53 am    Post Subject:  

a pertinent post , Deano , because i think the central issue is freedom .

the question is , do people want freedom? they don't act as if they do , largely.

i think i do , but i know i could do better , at trying to obtain and hold it , so what's the point of me feeling offended at being chipped , if i don't do my best to establish and keep my own strength and independence?

steve
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Deano



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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:06 pm    Post Subject:  

Freedom is the right to live as we wish. He who does not enjoy solitude will not love freedom. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. I know but one freedom and that is the freedom of the mind. In the truest sense, freedom cannot be bestowed; it must be achieved.

You have no strength or independence if you take the chip, you are owned.
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steve clougher



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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:35 am    Post Subject:  

absolutely , Deano , and after being achieved ?

is that a permanent achievement?

and a general question , perhaps for the benefit of our younger readers , when the tv is on , are our minds free then?

i'm reminded of an Armenian proverb : a man does not grow up , until he has in-laws

i think one of the (seven levels of ) meanings may be that independence and responsibility are closely related somehow?
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Deano



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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:50 pm    Post Subject:  

If I have been of service, if I have glimpsed more of the nature and essence of ultimate good, if I am inspired to reach wider horizons of thought and action, if I am at peace with myself, it has been a successful day. - Alex Noble
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steve clougher



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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:54 pm    Post Subject:  

i like Alex 's words , isn't it a refreshing change , to be exploring positive values ?

there is a mystery here , too , worthy of MNZ being free to do as one wishes , and also , to be of service , are not incompatible , but the question is , whom or what , and how to serve ?

. anyone can see , there are people giving sincere and well-meaning service , to the wrong cause .

multinational initiatives , of all kinds ,with the backing of the modern banksters , , all warlike activities , probably a lot of organised religious work , manufacture and support of consumer "crap" goods ,i think you can say these mostly take more than they give , and therefore can't be good service , not in the long term , at least .

to really know that you are plugged in to the greater pattern , that transcends our personal lives , how do you know that you are in tune with that?

millions take the pope's word for it , that's not good enough for me , i've seen popes make mistakes , ............ people lean on sacred books . well, with all respect , the books may be infallible , but they don't stop people from making conflicting interpretations

i guess there are fields of service , where it's possible to give yourself more of a chance to do real good : medicine , food and education , for example , but i guess the problem of staying in tune with the big pattern , is quite hard to get a grip on , in any field?

steve
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tonggrv



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:24 am    Post Subject:  

Hi,
The question that we don't have an answer to is 'do aliens exist'?

We need to ask ourselves first do we believe?
If so do we fell that they are friend or foe?

I my self do believe they exist, they have to the universe is too big.

I'm a little more radical I feel the 'grays' are the ones who are indigenous to this planet and we are either an experiment by visitors gone wrong or just dumped off here by passer byes.

The question most troubling is friend or foe.

I think a little of both...friends who fear us...and foe who could see us just as food...

:lol:
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steve clougher



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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:06 pm    Post Subject:  

what about friends who may use us as food? might there not be a way to serve beings higher and wiser than us , to provide for them in some way that also enhances our lives and our opportunities? certainly there are very ancient and persistent doctrines that say just this

and who needs alien foes , when we've got each other? we gave our tv to the op-shop , 8 months ago , so our dogs wouldn't have to witness what people do to each other our only regret is that we didn't trash it . we've got alien foes coming out of our ears , just about all our politicians , many public servants , aristocrats , plutocrats , cratocrats , they're all eager candidates they certainly don't act as if their grandchildren will inherit this earth

steve

man's inhumanity to man makes countless thousands mourn-----The Shiner
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Deano



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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:58 pm    Post Subject:  

It appears the greys are not from here they are from Zeta Reticuli. In an exchange for technology they have been allowed to do some scientific work of their own with us human beings. Their many times cloned bodies are breaking down at the cellular level, facing extinction they are trying to upgrade or splice a more robust piece of dna together from the earth based human pool. Sounds like the poor buggers havent been too successful.

No species is interested in eating us he he although there are entities which literally feed off intense human emotion. To be in control of all of your wide range of emotions in all situations is to have ultimate control of your mind, body and soul. This doesnt mean you shouldnt laugh or cry or restrict yourself, but find more peace within by building a strong center within yourself, not cold or hard but just, steadfast and honourable, something true.

This Earth...this living library is the result of the scientific dabbling of several different races of extraterrestrials over vast amounts of time. All added a bit here and a bit there and in fact a lot of the legends which tell of half man half beast, giants and such contained some validity. I also feel there are many watching the events on terra firma, yet unfortunately none may intervene for some unbeknownst reason,,,,
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Deano



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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:05 pm    Post Subject:  

The channeled information always fascinates me, some of it is very elaborate and well constructed. Take this piece from the grey 'Bashar'

Quote:
We will share with you what we consider to be a major discovery that we have made. In conversation with several of you through several channels and in interaction with you in dreamstate levels, we have thus come to the conclusion that we have been searching for emotion within ourselves. For much time we have been searching for emotion, for we bred and cloned emotion out of our species in the belief that it would accelerate our growth and provide us with superior development. We have since understood that this was not the case. Thus you on Earth represent a genetic combination that is the closest to our original species, and so the interactions that we have with you (especially those you call "abductions") on one level are our observations of you. This is in order to learn how to become emotional once again.

The experience that some of you have read about or have had of having probes inserted into your brains, we wish to tell you the purpose of that is not for controlling you. But these probes are organic in nature and will absorb neurochemicals from your brains. They are thus extracted and we analyze those neurochemicals. In the analysis what we expect to achieve is to be able to simulate your neurochemical secretions in the desire that perhaps if we can simulate these neurochemical secretions, we will thus be able to recapture the idea of emotion.

This is not in any way meant to harm you, to hurt you, to frighten you or to control you. This is something we do wish to stress. If you can begin to understand why these procedures are undertaken, perhaps you will allow yourself not to be so frightened of them. Perhaps you will allow yourself to transmute your fear into an active and conscious cooperation with us. This will be of service to us greatly. It will also be of service to you greatly.

In conversations that we have had with other species not of your planet, and in our analysis of data that we have received from you, it has become clear that we have discovered indeed the beginnings of emotional development--though crude as it may be. We have been misinterpreting some of our motivations to be purely mental. We are now understanding that some of our motivations are not mental at all, but are driven by emotion. Though we do not understand this emotion in its entirety or even in little pieces of it, we can say that we will allow ourselves to recognize it as the beginning of an emergence of an emotional body.

This recognition we have made is the recognition that the idea called "curiosity" is indeed an emotional expression on our part, and not a mental one. Our motivation as we have always said, is one of curiosity. But we have mislabeled it as mentality instead of emotionality.

We do not know if you understand the implications of this. For us, this is a milestone, in that we can understand that all of the work that we have done in observing you and in conversation and interaction with other species is an indication to us that it has been successful. Thus it fires our motivation. Thus it fires our curiosity to continue.

We wish at this time to formally thank you for your participation in this experiment, for your participation in the growth of both of our species. I speak as a representative of my people. As I speak to you and thank you as a group in this room, know that this gratitude is emerging into your mass consciousness and is felt by all others. I speak this as a representative. I speak this with all motivation. You are thanked by us.
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