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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:49 pm Post Subject: mystery religion (freemasonry)
i]THE presence of the Temple of Diana at Ephesus marked that city as sacred to the Mystery religion, for the Seven Wonders of the ancient world were erected to indicate the repositories of recondite knowledge. Of Ephesus, H. P. Blavatsky writes:
"It was a focus of the universal 'secret' doctrines; the weird laboratory whence, fashioned in elegant Grecian phraseology, sprang the quintessence of Buddhistic, Zoroastrian, and Chaldean philosophy. Artemis, the gigantic concrete symbol of theosophico-pantheistic abstractions, the great mother Multimamma, androgyne and patroness of the 'Ephesian writings,' was conquered by Paul; but although the zealous converts of the apostles pretended to burn all their books on 'curious arts, τα περιεργα, enough of these remained for them to study when their first zeal had cooled off." (See Isis Unveiled.)[/i]
Re: http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta46.htm
Alan Watt and many others are saying that all the religions of the world were created by the freemasons (mystery religion) based on their extensive research.
But dont take my word for it, if your curious research it for yourself.
Don't be lead, be your own leader and dig deep through all the crap.
Manly Hall, secret teachings of all ages could be a good start in my opinion.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/
They call themselves the builders but its not buildings they build but reality cultures (beliefs).
Freemasons is their latest title, its funny because they surfaced about the same time the knights templars went underground (or rounded up and persecuted as they would have you believe).
Their symbols can be viewed right the way through documented his-story.
Maybe it started in egypt, maybe summer, who knows? But I'm sure each time they dig up an ancient site they will find the symbols of the system creators.
Its their system where the one eyed man is king, and the majority are asleep having materialistic dreams.
Its their system where your classed as a winner or loser in regards to how far up the pyramid you ascend, or descend, which ever way you look at it of course. (upside down pyramid)
We have all been classed weather you believe it or not.
Now you might say "but i don't believe in religion and they don't effect me"
And i would say "if you believe in the system and think its a natural evolution of the human race (why call it a race) then you are a part of it and your living their religion, weather you know it or not."
My point is, if your going to complain about anything to do with this reality (world view) if it be chem-trails or whatever, why not look for the cause of the effect? Example, if you drank to much alcohol and woke up the next day with a hangover, would you not blame the drink causing dehydration leading to the hangover, or would you try looking for other reasons like not enough sleep or a virus or something? I doubt it, you would logically look at the true cause, alcohol.
To be continued......
Here's a question for you to ponder.
Who is responsible for the chem-trails? What is their purpose?
Global warming creation maybe?
Population control? (look up georgia guide stones)
Weather warfare?
All of the above?
Just for the sake of it?
Any other offers?
Any discussion on this is most welcome.
I've been looking at this cause for a few years now and everything points to it being a true conclusion to reach. So please don't try to convince me otherwise, you will be waisting your time and mine, if i choose to answer mind you.
And if you want to worship or stick up for the freemasons and their religion, start your own thread up dedicated to them, your choice. But please save your eastern philosophical hair splitting for your own thread as i know where its coming from.
All the best.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:56 pm Post Subject: behave - beehive
Another question(s) for you.
Why did they build new zealands parliment building in the shape of a bee hive?
Was it an after thought to name it the bee hive?
Have you heard of the order of the bee? B-order? No?
Secret societies are called orders, and sol-die-rs receive orders from their superiors do they not? Hmmmm, very interesting i think.
The english language is a free masonic creation.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:59 am Post Subject: free masonic rituals
By the looks of it even the american indians had the mystery rituals very similar to the free masonic rituals. Long before the so called discovery by columbus. Now how could that be? Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about, go back to sleep.
The abode of the dead was presumed to be in a distant place: in the heavens above, the earth below, the distant corners of the world, or across wide seas. Sometimes a river flows between the world of the dead and that of the living, in this respect paralleling Egyptian, Greek, and Christian theology. To the Indian the number four has a peculiar sanctity, presumably because the Great Spirit created His universe in a square frame. This is suggestive of the veneration accorded the tetrad by the Pythagoreans, who held it to be a fitting symbol of the Creator. The legendary narratives of the strange adventures of intrepid heroes who while in the physical body penetrated the realms of the dead prove beyond question the presence of Mystery cults among the North American red men. Wherever the Mysteries were established they were recognized as the philosophic equivalents of death, for those passing through the rituals experienced all after-death conditions while still in the physical body. At the consummation of the ritual the initiate actually gained the ability to pass in and out of his physical body at will. This is the philosophic foundation for the allegories of adventures in the Indian Shadow Land, or World of Ghosts.
"From coast to coast," writes Hartley Burr Alexander, "the sacred Calumet is the Indian's altar, and its smoke is the proper offering to Heaven." (See Mythology of All Paces.) In the Notes on the same work is given the following description of the pipe ceremony:
"The master of ceremonies, again rising to his feet, filled and lighted the pipe of peace from his own fire. Drawing three whiffs, one after the other, he blew the first towards the zenith, the second towards the ground, and the third towards the Sun. By the first act he returned thanks to the Great Spirit for the preservation of his life during the past year, and for being permitted to be present at this council. By the second, he returned thanks to his Mother, the Earth, for her various productions which had ministered to his sustenance. And by the third, he returned thanks to the Sun for his never-failing light, ever shining upon all."
I wonder if we look seriously into the maori rituals we see any similarities there, I'm thinking we would. I doubt they even had meeting houses before the free masonic missionaries came here and showed them how to build them.
can't find any fault with their position, at all......"avoid unnecessary officials, and limit human population to an arbitrary figure"........absolutely on the money, these are the problems of the age, which the professional vultures would have us forget, by sidetracking with "global warming", and a problematical israel and iran, when the benevolent white-hat hop-along-cassidy USA has shown itself, over a whole century, to be a gung-ho fascist nazi vampire, sucking the life-blood from vibrant peoples like Australia, New Zealand, Samoa, Tongatapu, Hawaii, Alaska, 40 micronesian and melanesian micro-states. all of Latin America, Indonesia, there is virtually nowhere the CIA and other "security" entities hasn't destroyed or seriously compromised
given a UNITED STATES government which reverts to original constitutional values, which even Ron Paul has mainly lost touch with, which kicks out the Mafia Gangster element in a meaningful and permanent fashion, there is some hope
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:35 am Post Subject: UK DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE DOCUMENT
Titled - DCDC Global Strategic Trends Programme 2007-2036
(DCDC) stands for Development, Concepts and Doctrine Centre
This is the DOD Document Alan has spoken about many times in his blurbs and as a guest host. Also, linked below, is the original blurb where Alan does an in-depth talk on pertinent portions of the text
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:02 am Post Subject:
good little article, by Martin Croucher from Epoch Times
quote:
According to radiation expert Dr Rosalie Bertell, HAARP has the facility for disrupting weather patterns.
She said: "I believe that this is an attempt to influence the course of the Vapor Rivers [streams of vapour carried in the lower atmosphere], five each in the northern and southern hemisphere, which bring rain from the tropics into the temperate zones.
"The course of these rivers, when changed, can cause drought or flooding. It is also likely that the HAARP manipulations of the ionosphere can influence the shape of the jet streams, which in turn have effects on temperature and local weather patterns."
i've never heard of these vapour rivers, must look into them
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:08 pm Post Subject:
i listened to "Powers of the Air Hour1", and there's something i think should be pointed out
the thesis that there is one elite, and a line between them and the peasants, is simplistic
there is a number of elites, always has been, and at times they have fought each other
there has been a spiritual elite, uninterested in money asnd power, who have always advised spiritual aspirants to avoid the company of the rich and famous
the Watt thesis has two huge flaws:
one, it blurs the fact that all of us, in this western world, partake quite substantially in elitism.........every time we stagger out of the hardware shop, bow-legged with bargains, for which we paid less than it costs us to drive to work, and which were produced by Chinese slaves,we are willingly subscribing as elitist exploiters
the disease of dominance pervades all our society, and only those who cultivate higher values can resist it...........one of those values, is taking responsibility !!
the second flaw, is that blinded by this "us - and - them" mentality, we are ripe for manipulation into any old mold the social engineers choose to throw our way, for example, the cultivation of racial stereotypes
spiritual leaders have warned of the dangers of "us - and - them", for thousands of years
sure, there are class systems operating around the world, especially in the UK, that have thrown up some monstrous and wasteful results, but i think these elites are in fact degenerating fast, to the point where other elites, not based on class , will swamp them
at this point, Mr. Watt gets it right..........the elite with its star in the ascendant today, is the scientific one, and their weakness, as he identifies, is the overdevelopment of the intellect, and the atrophy of the emotional life
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:51 pm Post Subject: responce with audio included
Oh, so who's spraying the chem trails then? Us or them? :roll:
Certainly isn't me, so it must be them. Your opinions are full of flaws.
Good to see your actually reading the articles though Steve, good on ya.
And I'm sure i ask people to leave their eastern philosophical hair splitting for your own thread. @$#&!!* the spiritual leaders man, wheres it gotten us so far? Right here is where!
"Virtu(e)altern-8 Reality and Blurring of Fact and Fantasy"
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:50 pm Post Subject:
it's an understandable position, Deano, but the wisdom of the spiritual giants of the past, should not be judged by the mess that's been made in their names, by a crowd of professional parasites
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:11 pm Post Subject: audio
"Mystery of Mastery, the Devilish Dream
Seed of Psychopaths pass on their Gene
Deviants Rise, Convention must Fall
World is the Prize, the Booty is All"
(Articles: "Embryos Created With DNA From 3 People" by Maria Cheng, AP Medical Writer, San Francisco Chronicle (sfgate.com) - Feb. 6, 2008.
"Three parents produce one embryo" by Deborah Smith Science Editor, Sidney Morning Herald (smh.com.au) - Feb. 6, 2008.
"Scientists use tattoo needle to deliver HPV vaccine" by Mark Baard, parallelnormal.com - Feb. 6, 2008. )
***Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt - Feb. 6, 2008 (Exempting Music, Literary Quotes, and Callers' Comments)
(Article: "Exclusive! The FBI Deputizes Business" by Matthew Rothschild, The Progressive Magazine (progressive.org) - February 7, 2008.)
http://www.progressive.org/mag_rothschild0308
