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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:11 pm Post Subject: what ever happened to Hector?
what ever happened to Hector? This is the kind of post he once might have posted in...
Heres my theory:
-Hector & Jay_gee were the same person or.... husband and wife...
-My actual guess is that they are exactly the same person, Hector was a made up name and the persons actual name had the initials J.G.
Why am I asking this? I feel its important enough to mention as for one both of these aliases stopped posting when Jay_gee leaft in a huff (with some excuse that no one was listening to him/her) just a day after I suggested that they were the same person.
-Neither Hector or jay_gee refuted the claim they were the same person, just quickly made an excuse and leaft.
i wanted to point this out because there is evidence here of deliberate deception and manipulation not just when they leaft but the whole time they were on the boards. I think these people are professional deceivers, a sub-type of sociopathic personality and we should attempt to recognize as such any further unusually single-minded posters who appear to have an agenda of distracting (via endless impossible requests for undeniable proof of something simalar) or distracting by getting lost in mountains of so called scientific data and repeating the same contrail precipitation data endlessley for example or simply ignoring posts or questions from others when it suits them yet at the same time demanding answers from others).
Typical behavior from a sociopath is to demand answers from others but act totally contradictory when others ask the same from them.
Just some thoughts really... its useful having die hard skeptics in some instances but it often makes people like me lose interest and wander off elsewhere due to tedious repetition...
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:55 pm Post Subject: Re: what ever happened to Hector?
elevate wrote:
what ever happened to Hector? This is the kind of post he once might have posted in... Heres my theory: -Hector & Jay_gee were the same person or.... husband and wife... Why am I asking this? I feel its important enough to mention as for one both of these aliases stopped posting when Jay_gee leaft in a huff (with some excuse that no one was listening to him/her) just a day after I suggested that they were the same person.
For god's sake, elevate, stop with the poorly-informed accusations. I've provided links for you before, but if you want confirmation that Hector and me are different people, just ask Richard or Melody - the admins of this very site - they know *exactly* who we are. You also say that...
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Neither Hector or jay_gee refuted the claim they were the same person, just quickly made an excuse and leaft.
For a full disclosure from my end, my name is James Guthrie (Jay Gee, geddit?), and I am not a 'professional deceiver'. I am a web designer for a Wellington-based multimedia company. I run wellingtonista.com, noizyland.com, and dropkicks.co.nz. I must admit that I do know who Hector is, which is why I'm confident I'm not the same person.
Who, exactly, elevate, are you?
I left *in a huff* as you say, because one of the many conspiracies posted on this site that was 100% flawed in its premise and data was still supported by members of this site, despite practical and re-producable examples from me as to why that theory was flawed. At that point, I realised that no-one was going to listen anything I had to say on any matters where evidence was controversial or debatable, so I gave up.
I've continued to read forum postings, because I'm still genuinely interested in the issues you guys talk about, but when a post like yours comes up accusing me of "deliberate deception" and of being a "sociopath", well, basically, it pisses me off,. So, here's yet another 'final post' to help you realise that not all your conspiracy theories have any grounds in reality...
I am not Hector. I am jay_gee. No one pays me to argue with you. I do it out of my own (misguided?) take on the evidence presented to me. I wish you well, but please stop disparaging me. [/url]
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:28 am Post Subject: Australian Airforce busy here at the moment.
I witnessed an unmarked white Boeing jet takeoff from Wellington airport early this afternoon and asked my girlfriend through the window to check the takeoff schedule on the net. It wasnt identifiable.
I have just found out that the Australian Airforce has been flying in and out several times throughout the last week, much much more than usual.
Im not suggesting that this has anything to with with the trails.
Does anyone know why they are here at the moment???
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:08 pm Post Subject:
well, jay_gee , it's good of you to disabuse us of at least one of the mysteries we've been examining........your identity
however , as one mystery is cleared up , another one appears. why on earth are you still visiting this site , when our leanings contradict your prejudices so completely? isn't this intensely painful for you?
i'd like to say that the study of chemtrails , with all the implications inferred , is of course difficult and riddled with supposition. by the nature of the phenomenon , proof of its very existence is tenuous , and shrouded also , in disinformation. i assume this is the topic which you refer to as being 100% wrong? well let me just say , if we're 95% wrong , we're still in deep trouble!
no idea why the Aus Defence Force is visiting NZ, but can inquire . my impression is that all the english-speaking militaries are under pressure to comply with the dictates of some hidden directorate. whatever they are up to , as a group , it's huge , it's expensive , and it bodes us little good in all probability
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:32 pm Post Subject:
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it's good of you to disabuse us of at least one of the mysteries we've been examining........your identity
That 'mystery' was revealed back in May in this very forum. I've linked to it twice since when the topic of my identity has come up, and, even after doing so, elevate still managed to believe that Hector and I were the same person, and you still seemed to believe there was some mystery about who I was. This just reinforces for me the fact that anything I write here just doesn't actually register with the site regulars.
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why on earth are you still visiting this site , when our leanings contradict your prejudices so completely?
I enjoy mysteries. I always have. I enjoy reading about what other people believe, and I thought I might be able to be right some of the misconceptions about some of the 'mysteries' you discuss. I admit I come to it from a sceptics point of view, but that doesn't automatically mean I'm 'prejudiced' against any of the theories at hand. I just like verifiable, scentific evidence. Trying to argue from that position when your opponents counterpoint is (for example) a mysterious and unprovable behind-the-scenes organisation that controls significant sections of the political world is also frustrating, and another factor in me bowing out of discussion here. But, as I say, I still enjoy learning about what others believe, and, it has to be said, some of the topics on MNZ are quite entertaining.
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'd like to say that the study of chemtrails , with all the implications inferred , is of course difficult and riddled with supposition. by the nature of the phenomenon , proof of its very existence is tenuous , and shrouded also , in disinformation. i assume this is the topic which you refer to as being 100% wrong?
No, it was the "100% Proof Google is Keeping Alternative Media Sites Down" topic. The very premise of the original post was wrong, and I thought I had demonstrated with practical examples as to why this was so. And yet my explanation was still met with scepticism. So, why try to discuss other topics which are, as you say "riddled with supposition", when you can't even convince people of an argument that is virtually black and white.
(Incidentally, this was the same thread I made suggestions to the admins that might help this site get correctly indexed by Google - yet more evidence of my "deception and manipulation" and "sociopathic deception" perhaps? How underhanded of me, trying to get the site recognised by search engines!)
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:10 pm Post Subject:
jay_gee wrote:
And would it be fair to say, Melody, that both you and John have known of both mine and Hector's actual identities for several months?
Quite right - longer in fact. Hector and Jay_gee are NOT the same person, nor are they husband and wife, though as Jay_gee acknowledged they do know one another and have a connection.
Give it a rest you guys. You really do no favours to those forum members who are genuinely interested in the truth with this sort of direction. Jay_gee has been outed before and shouldn't have to continue to respond to stuff like this.
Smash, I might move some posts around to preserve your original topic when I get time. We're in the middle of moving house so are strapped for spare time at the moment.
Elevate and Steve, please lay off this line of post or you might face a temporary ban...
