Mysteries, Chemtrails, Aerosols :: Mysterious NZ

[Carus]

The following photo was taken in Te Anau on 1 April 2007 at 8:53:22am while we were doing some sightseeing photography. It wasn’t until we printed the photo that the orb shapes in the picture were noticed. On closer inspection they appeared to be something unusual. Note:

They are not dots from dust or marks on the camera lens as we have three other photos taken within less than a minute of each other of the same area, plus many others before and after this shot which show no repeat of these dots.

The photo immediately before this one (8:53:06am) shows three matching orb shapes positioned lower and further apart to the right of the position shown here.

The photo immediately after (8:53:54am) had no orb shapes at all in the sky.

The photos have been taken in RAW with a Nikon D70s



1/4/07 8:53:22am - Orb formation to the middle above the trees (picture can also be viewed in the photo gallery)



1/4/07 8:53:22am - Close up of orbs



1/4/07 8:53:22am – Emboss filter applied in Photoshop to show detail of orb shape

[steve clougher]

an intriguing sequence , it looks like some kind of interaction happening between the orbs and the linear element that runs along the lower edge of the cloud . note the lower right orb and the arc in the pale "rope" above it

[steve clougher]

i suppose there's no real evidence that the orbs and the cloud are in the same place

[jay_gee]

what makes you think it isn't just a flock of birds?

[Carus]

Hi Steve

It is a rather intriguing sequence. It’s hard to judge where they might be in relation to the cloud but I hadn’t made any association myself. The orbs look similar to others in photographs posted on this forum. There is a web page on the Net showing a larger formation as follows. I'm not suggesting they're the same thing though, just interesting.

http://www.orbwar.com/perfect-v-formation-plasma-sphere-trailing-orb.htm

Jay_gee I don’t think they're birds because there’s no sign of wings and the shapes are so rounded.

[jay_gee]

[jay_gee]

actually, there's a link to an even better site from that rense page, with some good examples of how distant birds take on 'orb' forms...

http://ifo.s5.com/

Head to the 'birds' pages.

[Deano]

Carus, dont let jaybee put you off, its quite possible that you have photographed orbs interacting with a sylph...anything is possible, stay alert to the sky, photograph anything that looks odd or unnatural, sometimes you just feel it. The debunker mindset is the closed mindset, unable to think freely, controlled by their own psychological conditioning.

[Hector]

Sure, anything's possible, Deano... they could be UFOs disguised as birds, they could be a quadruplicity of scalar singularities, they could be extra-dimensional intrusions into the space-time continuum over Te Anau... but the most probable is that they are birds flying about Te Anau looking for food.

[steve clougher]

Hector , a quadruplicity of scalar singularities , man , that's just square!!

i don't want to make a total fool of myself , 90% or so is ok , but i have seen , in my virtual travels , the concept that the new generation stealth craft can hover , and can look like an orb , even though they are , in reality , a black triangle . anyone want to raise me on this ??

[Hector]

OK, new generation stealth craft; that's another possibility.
Do you have a photo of a stealth craft looking like a orb? Let's see it.

Of course, stealth craft are not suposed to look like what they are. They are meant to look like something else, or be nearly invisible. Otherwise, why "stealth".

And contrails are an issue with stealthiness. There are no visible contrails in that Te Anau case. But then birds don't make contrails. So...

In that photo, you can't make out any detail in the tops of the trees in the middle foreground. It's not surprising that you can't see the wings of the birds, even if they are several times the distance away.

[Carus]

[steve clougher]

Yes , Hector , for some reasonable pics of hovering stealth planes morphing into orbs , go to www.orbwars.com .

i don't think they are birds . i misspent large swathes of my youth trying to get good photos of birds . never once got anything like that , mind , it wasn't digital .

however , that cloud they seem close to, looks like it might be a chemtrail, to me .

[steve clougher]

sorry , got that site wrong , the correct one is the same one Carus mentions above :
www.orbwar.com/holographic-cloaking-stealth-technology.htm

[jay_gee]

[steve clougher]

thank-you, jay_gee , those birds in the bottom picture look like red-billed, black-backed gulls , i think .

i looked at that link ,thanks . it's always good to get a balanced diet , of websites . Sometimes you might find that sites that appear as a reaction , as in this case , in reaction to glib and even hysterical classing of visual phenomena as , for example , poisonous chemtrails , can lose their objectivity just as quickly as the sites they seek to correct . Objectivity isn't something that comes plastic-wrapped . On the other hand , when you have a true mystery , and you can't (yet) hope to explain it , you can sometimes have a valid hunch , as long as you don't forget that's what it is .

try this , jay_gee.......look at the image of the four "orbs".....now , slowly close your eyes , ...........feel The Force .....

steve
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[Carus]

Here's an interesting occurance in Stratford, England this week of orbs being sighted at night time. Again four in close proximity with a fifth further away. There's a video taken as well. It was unusual enough for crowds of people to stand out in the street for half an hour while it lasted.

From the Daily Mail UK:

[Deano]

[steve clougher]

eloquent use of emoticons , Deano.

i don't think we've ever been unready , i think that's one of the favorite smokescreens of the crat-o-crats , to stall an honest meeting of us slaves with any possible alien race , while the said crat-o-crats reinforce their techno advantages

a couple of times , i've seen silent , steadily moving objects , about as bright as Sirius , steady white light , moving down the top of the ridge near our place , once just after dark , once at 3am. my friend at the head of the valley , where these lights went , says he has seen lots of UFOs there . i'm still open minded , but this guy is practical , reliable , and has a responsible job.

there are hundreds of old gold mines in them thar hills

i've been reading about the grid system , developed by Bruce Cathy and others . i'd have thought , by now , someone would have got software organised with latitude and longitude coordinates for the whole planet? anybody heard of any such thing?

steve

[LukeZen]

I've been reading a lots of Bruce Cathie's work lately - incredible stuff for sure. The maths while I don't understand it, makes sense to me.

There is such a piece of software you're asking about. 'Gridworks' developed by an American developer together with Bruce himself. There's a link to it from www.brucecathie.com I think. Probably a good investment really, the latest version. It was originally a DOS based program but it's been redone by them within the past decade with graphics etc.

I'd be interested in finding spots or areas in the Wellington region whose co-ordinates have such harmonics of gravity/light etc. Would we find places of a different engergy, or maybe a government installation conveniently located.

Luke

[steve clougher]

yes , i've been over Bruce's website , just can't find that money this month , but one day .

i struggled to come to terms with his harmonics . the stumbling block for me , was the concept of four numbers , (or more ?) in sequence , being significant no matter where the decimal place.

also , if the universe is constructed around selected harmonics of this kind , in the base-ten number system , what's the odds that if you examined systems with a base of eight , for example , such as spiders count in , or 19 , or 179 , you'd find universal harmonics there too? there's nothing particularly special about the decimal system ,as far as i know.

as i recall , he had a couple of grid systems that he was examining , an ancient one which was being overlaid with a modern version on slightly different alignments?? or am i confusing him with someone else? anyway , that adds another layer of complexity to the subject , specially when considering an investment in software

i really like the assured and intuitive way he works , though , he's a national treasure all right.

[LukeZen]

That's an interesting point about the base-10 number system you've got.
I think that it is different for the very reason that 36, 360, 3600 etc all contain the same fundamental number which ties in with old 'numerology' type significance of each number, its meaning as it were.

The number 10 seems to have some interesting 'life' type properties - check out the decagon, whose sides when folded along its radius follow the divine ratio of 1:1.618

I recall the two grid systems you are talking about, I think Bruce made reference to an old world grid, around the time the pyramids were built (10,000 years as said by some, far older than the 3000 year 'established' fact) wheras the new one may very well be due to extra-terrestrial intervention. There certainly is some very compelling evidence for this, such as artifacts under the sea, explosions at key grid intersections, etc.

Between Cathie and Constable, New Zealand has its share of people with their eyes opening out of our sleep. There truly are some awake kiwis out there, as there are people waking up all over the world. The times they are a changing...

[steve clougher]

yes, the decimal system certainly has its unique specialities , as does the duododecimal etc.,.....every numerilogical element conceivable has something to contribute to the "rich tapestry" of the universe.

as to the waking up of the populace , it is interesting to note that in some areas your statement seems to apply without any "let or hindrance" , and in other areas , like the Bay of Plenty there seems to be an influence atributable to the vast ammounts of money coming in through immigration , which substantially contribute to a "dumbing down" of the area ............so it's probably not all on one spectrum :::::::::::

i did some research on different number bases , years ago , all the findings of Bruce Cathie in the base ten system seem to be duplicable , no matter what base you use, literally up to base 179 , and presumably onwards and upwards forever ...........

it is a mysterious universe , thanks be , and always will be

[LukeZen]

Very interesting stuff there, I wonder what figures you'd find working with Cathie's harmonics in a base-144 system. Maybe it would be no different, but it seems 144 is a pretty important number, not just to him either.

As an aside, do you remember the Simpsons episode "22 1/2 short stories about Springfield"? Well it was made of a few different sketches, but not 22 1/2 of them, til someone figured out that in base-8 (which our yellow 8 fingered friends would use) that would work. Beats me how, I really need to do some solid research into the different number bases.

It's almost like there's two different currents moving along, as far as conciousness is going. One one hand, the general populace is getting dumber, more content to accept rules and laws that even Orwell himself couldn't dream up,
On the other hand I've met many people in my life in recent years who seem to be awakening to the power our conciousness actually has. We create reality, amazing and simple yet most would laugh and calls us crazy. There's a lot to be said for the mass-conciousness of humanity, info is getting out there. The internet is a physical manifestation of our collective conciouness. I think, anyway.

I think I've slipped a little off topic here, but going back UFO's, Cathie and the grid system, if we're able to find where some of these grid intersections are, it could be a good place to spot UFOs and also 'gift' by way of orgone tools.

[jay_gee]

To continue the aside...

[LukeZen]

Credit where credit's due, you're right about that one.
I got my info, from memory, from the www.snpp.com site a few years back.

Anybody know if Te Anau is on any grid lines or interections?

[steve clougher]

i've got to ask you about "gifting" with orgone tools, what is that about?

my friend i mentioned, saw a UFO miles away , which he said reacted to him , with a light that he experienced as shining directly at him , which switched on and off ,in response to things he did, i can't remember exactly what , but the guts was that he sees a lot of these things , and they seem to be aware of him personally . he says they are benign . at any rate , this is not the sort of thing you'd connect with secret military craft , i wouldn't think .

there's a website called Surrey Earth Mysteries Group, that talks about finding all different kinds of churches ,temples ,mosques , etc , being built along these ley lines . he thinks there must be an impulse that works subconsciously , to guide people who are inclined to worship , to do so in these avenues of energy , in his view , to contribute to the energy grid with singing and prayer .

is this equivalent to gifting with orgone?

it's a bit of a puzzle why some people have this impulse and not others
too . it doesn't seem to have too much to do with a person's spiritual potential , in my experience , as to whether they're drawn to go to church or not

i read some research by a team that measured ultrasound levels , over the course of a year , at the Rollright stone circle in Oxfordshire . they found a background noise level that was at a maximum at the equinoxes , and reduced to a low at the solstices. all or most of those ancient monuments are able to be related to others in alignments , but unless i'm mistaken , not in a grid pattern . it would be so good to know who put them there and why , i suspect it was for better reasons than those involved in the modern grid

Zecharia Sitchin has a lot to say about the pyramids (specifically the two biggest at Giza) and the temple at Baalbek in Syria , plus others , being part of a system for guiding and launching spacecraft . there is support for this theory in Sumerian literature . the biggest of the stones at Baalbek are just under a thousand tons(US tons i guess ) and fitted very tightly together . to imagine people in stone-age technologies cutting and moving these things , if you'll believe that , you'll believe any old thing . there must have been "people" with superhuman technology , and if you look around these sites , using the truly marvellous internet , a useful rule of thumb to keep in mind is , the larger the stones , the earlier the date . the Giza pyramids , the massive stones at Baalbek , at Jerusalem ,at Abydos , etc ,none of them has any inscription.

the other thing you pick up from ancient literature , is that these powerful beings could also be capricious , jealous , greedy , and vindictive , as well as having the powers and qualities that we habitually associate with a developed ability to engage with the "astral" dimensions , compassion , wisdom etc.

just a small point , there was a picture of a petroglyph , amongst the celticNZ material , a snake in a folded , horizontal meander , i thought reminiscent of the signature glyph of the god Enki

steve

[secondfield]

Alot of Bruce Cathies work was also based around base 6 numbers. He reasoned that because of spherical geometry - the radius of a circle fits 6 times into its circumference. Spherical geometry as opposed to eulicedean (straight line) geometry is considered 'true geometry'. That is, there is no such thing as a perfectly straight line .... spacetime is curved. He also went on to demonstrate how pythogorean math (from the mystery schools) had a direct relationship with numbers utilised in the geodetic system of measurment, namely the speed of light. The clues can be found in the humble 3,4,5 (right angled) triangle. The planet is a sphere, atomic structures also appear the same. Perhaps before the advent of the pyramids there were no straight lines on our fair planet... An inter-dimensional intrusion indeed..

[LukeZen]

Regarding the contribution of singing and prayer to the energy grid, I personally think that yes it's equivalent to gifting with orgone. I couldn't give you any figures or comparison (who can?!) but I've found that focussed intent works very well, I've set up something of a positive thought-form centred around a large old tree I see from my balcony. I figure there is no limit to the good you can put into it, so I've visualized it as quite large - taking on a fair chunk of my neighbouring houses.

I agree with you where you mention spiritual potential with going to church or not. Religion... well it's not my cup of tea, I'm sure we're all familiar with what the church has done for Earth.

I've read some Sitchin, it's interesting reading. It ties in a lot with what Erich von Danniken has said, regarding the ancient civilizations and knowledge that popped up out of nowhere. It's almost insulting to be told that slave labour put together the great pyramids, that they fused and melted rock into a kind of concrete, that they lifted the enourmous slabs of stone so high, the interior chambers, etc. Thinking of the great pyramid as it was, with its outer-stones polished to a mirror sheen... it's like something you'd see in the future. Built to the proportions of life and harmony, a reflection of the night sky and our possible friends far away. I guess we can only speculate as to what it was, I've heard lots of interesting possibilities: Communication, ascendency, energy. I really don't think it was just a storage warehouse for dead kings...

I think the fact that Bruce Cathie's findings work in any base number system is further testament to what he discovered with his years of research. There are fundamental relationships which cannot be ignored.

By the way Steve, your friend's experience with UFO sounds very much like the living biological UFOs that Trevor James Constable has basically proved. It certainly stacks up with my first UFO experience many years ago.

[steve clougher]

all sounds like good work..........i'll have to get Bruce's latest book . i'm sure the older ones got some updating and correcting along the way . TJ Constable sounds interesting , too thanks for that .

steve