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Has anyone seen or heard about.."Dragonfly Drone"?
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tonggrv



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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:07 am    Post Subject: Has anyone seen or heard about.."Dragonfly Drone"?  

Hi my name is Redmond (Red)....



http://www.crystalinks.com/dragonflydrones.html
The Dragonfly Drone Investigation and Isaac's Report, (below) alleges some sort of confirmation about alien intervention on the planet for past decades, if it is indeed true. One has to wonder, is it all a government set-up? Is this the time for disclosure about alien visitors and their agendas? Don't think the public will like what went/goes on behind the scenes, but then again it can blame past administrations. The truth is out there. It can hurt, but it can also explain so much about our reality and the Age of Technology and Space.
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tonggrv



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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:11 am    Post Subject:  

more pics here...

http://redverbal.com/kennedysworld/index.php?topic=1489.0





Could this be a hoax?
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Carus



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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:42 am    Post Subject:  

Hi tonggrv

I have seen some reports on Earthfiles.com by Lynda Moulton Howe. Here is a link about it with some very interesting close ups of some....

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1275&category=Environment
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steve clougher



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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:38 pm    Post Subject:  

a few jarring notes on these

one forum i saw on these photos and sightings ,had a person saying that some components , around the inside , were identical to standard carbon resistors .

plus ,one sighting was reported to have involved the object spying on a group of militia members on exercises . this is implausible , and points to an attempt to dampen the militias' activities

steve
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Deano



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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:40 pm    Post Subject:  

The CARET program information linked to these drones was interesting...



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The “Language”


Their hardware wasn’t operated in quite the same way as ours. In our technology, even today, we have a combination of hardware and software running almost everything on the planet. Software is more abstract than hardware, but ultimately it needs hardware to run it. In other words, there’s no way to write a computer program on a piece of paper, set that piece of paper on a table or something, and expect it to actually do something. The most powerful code in the world still doesn’t actually do anything until a piece of hardware interprets it and translates its commands into actions.

But their technology is different. It really did operate like the magical piece of paper sitting on a table, in a manner of speaking. They had something akin to a language, that could quite literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very specific type of field. The language, a term I am still using very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves functional. Once they are drawn, so to speak, on a suitable surface made of a suitable material and in the presence of a certain type of field, they immediately begin performing the desired tasks. It really did seem like magic to us, even after we began to understand the principles behind it.


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First of all, you wouldn't open up their hardware to find a CPU here, and a data bus there, and some kind of memory over there. Their hardware appeared to be perfectly solid and consistent in terms of material from one side to the other. Like a rock or a hunk of metal. But upon [much] closer inspection, we began to learn that it was actually one big holographic computational substrate - each "computational element" (essentially individual particles) can function independently, but are designed to function together in tremendously large clusters. I say it’s holographic because you can divide it up into the smallest chunks you want and still find a scaled-down but complete representation of the whole system. They produce a nonlinear computational output when grouped. So 4 elements working together is actually more than 4 times more powerful than 1. Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to computation at any time and in any state. The shape of these "chunks" of substrate also had a profound effect on its functionality, and often served as a "shortcut" to achieve a goal that might otherwise be more complex.

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Deano



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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:54 pm    Post Subject:  

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So back to the language. The language is actually a "functional blueprint". The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is itself functional. What makes it all especially difficult to grasp is that every element of each "diagram" is dependant on and related to every other element, which means no single detail can be created, removed or modified independently. Humans like written language because each element of the language can be understood on its own, and from this, complex expressions can be built. However, their "language" is entirely context-sensitive, which means that a given symbol could mean as little as a 1-bit flag in one context, or, quite literally, contain the entire human genome or a galaxy star map in another. The ability for a single, small symbol to contain, not just represent, tremendous amounts of data is another counter-intuitive aspect of this concept. We quickly realized that even working in groups of 10 or more on the simplest of diagrams, we found it virtually impossible to get anything done. As each new feature was added, the complexity of the diagram exponentially grew to unmanageable proportions. For this reason we began to develop computer-based systems to manage these details and achieved some success, although again we found that a threshold was quickly reached beyond which even the supercomputers of the day were unable to keep up. Word was that the extra-terrestrials could design these diagrams as quickly and easily as a human programmer could write a Fortran program. It's humbling to think that even a network of supercomputers wasn't able to duplicate what they could do in their own heads. Our entire system of language is based on the idea of assigning meaning to symbols. Their technology, however, somehow merges the symbol and the meaning, so a subjective audience is not needed. You can put whatever meaning you want on the symbols, but their behavior and functionality will not change, any more than a transistor will function differently if you give it another name.
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Here's an example of how complex the process is. Imagine I ask you to incrementally add random words to a list such that no two words use any of the same letters, and you must perform this exercise entirely in your head, so you can't rely on a computer or even a pen and paper. If the first in the list was, say, "fox", the second item excludes all words with the letters F, O and X. If the next word you choose is "tree", then the third word in the list can't have the letters F, O, X, T, R, or E in it. As you can imagine, coming up with even a third word might start to get just a bit tricky, especially since you can't easily visualize the excluded letters by writing down the words. By the time you get to the fourth, fifth and sixth words, the problem has spiraled out of control. Now imagine trying to add the billionth word to the list (imagine also that we're working with an infinite alphabet so you don't run out of letters) and you can imagine how difficult it is for even a computer to keep up. Needless to say, writing this kind of thing "by hand" is orders of magnitude beyond the capabilities of the brain
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steve clougher



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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:31 pm    Post Subject:  

This rings true , with respect to what the pyramid builders are capable of

a bit daunting.

i found CARET ok , but searching led nowhere , can you please supply a link or a hint how to get the connection between the drones and the magic mind power stuff?

thanks , Steve
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Deano



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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:46 pm    Post Subject:  

Just google Caret program most of the info is there.
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steve clougher



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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:52 pm    Post Subject:  

thanks Deano. the post is really slick . for a couple of glorious hours i was sucked right in , saved all the documents and blew my entire stock of high gloss paper from the $2 shop, printing up all the images , in case the evil empire blasted them off the internet in the next half hour .

then i twigged, the person writing the piece is a really , really good writer . as well as a consummate electronics engineer .

right

the apparatus with no moving parts , performs these awesome functions in a defined area of space around it , when "activated" activated , how?

California is not only the centre of the 2nd most brilliant design and development tech-village in the world, (after the Kiwi america's cup team) , it's also the home of probably the whole galaxy's biggest disposable illusion industry . the glyphs on those objects , and the drawings , struck me as very beautiful , (apparently they are pretty much derived from Japanese letters , ) and i suddenly realised that many such objects and drawings are floating around Hollywood , looking for a home , having been generated as props and models for movies , only a small fraction of which are used .

even if these things have been fitted with antigrav , the story of hologramic wisdom incorporated in them is , sadly , most unlikely . that idea comes from Sitchen , who is presented passionately on www.whipnet.org , as a total authority and expert , (which i don't think he is, remembering that the Sumerian language was so complex and subtle , even the professional scribes were hard-put to master it , and Sitchen is inclined to call everything not bolted down , a "rocket-ship") , and it is on this site , among a few others , that the Caret program is seamlessly inserted .

the idea itself though , is well-attested in Sumerian literature . Innana is recorded as having stolen the "ME"s off Enki , the "ME"s being powerful containers of cultural and technical secrets . That story , i find entirely credible , so what would i know?

another bubble popped , for mine.

steve
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tonggrv



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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:36 am    Post Subject:  

thanks you two

that info was helpful. 8)
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steve clougher



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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:26 pm    Post Subject:  

we try to please

that site i tried to link to is one of the best , unfortunately i screwed up on the www , try www.UFOWhipnet.org , or with a dot after the UFO , it's worth trying to catch up on , a really good site. you can get to it by googling Caret program

another thought crossed my tiny mind , the "insect-like" movement of the "dragonfly" object , how does that correlate with projected hologram technology? intuitively , it seems to me , we have a modern equivalent of the old radio transmission of the " War of the Worlds"

steve
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Deano



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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:58 pm    Post Subject:  

http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/those-drones-again-the-caret-program-by-one-who-worked-on-the-project

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

The story is covered by many websites. Hoax??? Maybe! It is an interesting piece of work whatever the truth is. One must be discerning with such matters but always with your mind open. A closed mind is to hold back your own evolution. Sometimes there are truths hidden amongst lies to throw off the novice seeker :wink:
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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:52 am    Post Subject:  

don't you mean lies hidden among truths?

it is certainly a gorgeous piece of work .

it could be a psy-op (cf the story about the militia: that is a complete fabrication, i think)

it could be a straight prank, after all we are in California here, there's lots of money , and a distinct shortage of sanity

it could be hologram or antigravity technology.

one thing about the photographs , is that some are taken with power lines and bushes interrupting the view, when you'd think the person could get clear in one or two steps

given the pedigree of the letters , and the very human feel of the diagrams , i really don't think it's a spacecraft from offshore .............if it is , it's cleverly disguised as a hoax

steve
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steve clougher



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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:16 am    Post Subject:  

hey , Deano , maybe you mean there's a germ of truth hidden in a work of fiction?
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