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Cows dying from nitrate poisoning due to long cloudy periods
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info4



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 165

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:14 pm    Post Subject: Cows dying from nitrate poisoning due to long cloudy periods  

Did anybody pick up on this on the news the other day?

What does it mean and is it linked?

Makes you wonder, what with all the cloud that hangs around with the PT's

Article here

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/423466/1228916
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Hector



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Wellington

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:23 pm    Post Subject:  

I don't think it's possible to blame persistent contrails for the lack of sunshine that has apparently lead to nitrate poisoning of the bovines.

Check NIWA climate summaries over the last few months...
http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0703sum.pdf
Quote:
Sunshine:
March sunshine hours and/or solar radiation were more than 110 percent of normal in the east from Gisborne to Otago, and near or above normal in most other parts of New Zealand.


http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0704sum.pdf
Quote:
Near record high April sunshine hours were recorded at:
Kaitaia Observatory ...
New Plymouth Airport 3rd highest
Lake Tekapo ...


http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0705sum.pdf
Quote:
SUNSHINE: ABOVE AVERAGE IN MANY REGIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST
May sunshine hours and/or solar radiation were more than 110 percent of normal in many North Island and eastern South Island locations, and at least 120 percent of normal in Gisborne, South Taranaki, Marlborough, inland South Canterbury, coastal Otago, and Southland.


http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0706sum.pdf
Quote:
High June sunshine hours were recorded at:
New Plymouth Airport Well above normal
...

(and Paraparaumu Airport, Takaka, Christchurch Airport, Lake Tekapo).

So it didn't happen in those months. Perhaps nitrate build up develops quite quickly in response to low sunshine.

I checked the satellite images for early afternoon each day over the last 4 weeks at the Landcare Research NOAA Satellite site. I was looking for contrails, and especially persistent ones. I couldn't find any. So it must be other cloud types; there were plenty of days with extensive low, middle or thick high cloud, and some fine days, too. Besides, there have been no reports of contrails in the last few weeks from Taranaki.

It's easy to quickly scan the satellite image archive by slightly modifying the URL, once the format is sussed. I checked from
http://satellite.landcareresearch.co.nz/noaa/?history=2007/jun/pd14067.txt 14 June early afternoon
... to ...
http://satellite.landcareresearch.co.nz/noaa/?history=2007/jul/pd12077.txt 12 July early afternoon (when the nitrate poisoning story appeared).

The year and month are easy to spot. The txt filename contains the particular image code on the day following this system...
pn 0:40am - 2:17am
kd 4:22am - 5:58am
md 9:13am - 10:47am
pd 1:49pm - 3:28pm
kn 5:33pm - 7:10pm (all times approximate)
The next 2 digits are the day of the month, then 2 for the month, then figure 7 (meaning unknown, possibly the year as single digit, but what will happen when 2010 rolls around?).

Anyway, the point is, the poisoning was probably not caused by persistent contrails (reducing the sunlight). There weren't any.
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 977
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:02 pm    Post Subject:  

great research , Hector .
did your landsat source offer infrared photos , from the dark part of the day?(that is , the night)
you see , many times , chemtrails are laid down at night , according to many sources , and by daylight they have dispersed into an even haze.
therefore your conclusion may be wrong.
of course , there is also a high probability that the type of fertilizer , and its rate of application , are both intrinsically disastrous, without any help from chemtrails

steve______________________________

the biggest lie is the obfuscation of the obvious
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Hector



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Wellington

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:16 pm    Post Subject:  

It's not my landsat source. That data has generously been placed on the Internet for everyone to access. And yes, the nighttime images (coded 'pd') renders 3 infrared channels. You can check the images yourself; it doesn't take long.

I didn't bother checking the images in dark part of the day, that is, the night, because the sun's not in the New Zealand sky at that time. If persistent jet exhaust condensation were not obvious (even if they had dispersed into an even haze) in the early afternoon images, then they would not be affecting the quantity of sunlight, would they.

You may very well be correct about the probability of land abuse. We'll see about the balance of probabilities of the cause when the July sunshine and radiation observations from Taranaki are published early next month.
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 977
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:28 pm    Post Subject:  

of course the even haze would have an effect . if you read the proposals and patent applications , available on many good quality chemtrail sites , you'd know that the alleged reason for the spray campaign , according to US govt sources , including military , is to reduce global warming , and the factor being aimed at is in the order of a few percent . as you know , i and many others believe this to be a cover story , but your statement that the haze is not effective is simply vacuous . if there is any validity in the cover story , which i do nt believe , the haze which i have frequently lived under , would produce effects well in excess of a few percent , and still de in discernable from space . if you want to see some aggressive chem spraying , check out northeast victoria for this morning , they are going ballistic , after a two week lay-off. i've taken photos , which i'll post when i get the skills . there are multiple big jets in "holding patterns" , spraying evenly spaced lines , some at relatively low altitude , and many smaller domestic jets going through the same sky , with the normal contrail dissipating after ten plane-lengths . i'm happy to keep posting my observations , in answer to your blanket refutations , Hector . i have heaps of observations which are impossible to reconcile with your assertions . by continuing to make broad general denials in the face of bald facts to the contrary , i think you might be producing the opposite effect to what you intend

looks like high drama at the rugby tonight . move over , world cup . this is the game of the year

steve
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