Click HERE to go back to the Mysterious New Zealand home page
Click HERE to go back to the Mysterious New Zealand home page          Mysteries, Chemtrails, Aerosols :: Mysterious NZ
         New Zealand based Discussion Forums
         The strange & mysterious, archaeological anomalies, modern oddities...
         Current affairs, health & medical issues, Aerosol Spraying in NZ...
         ...and general interest: ARCHIVES
 

6 months in chemtrail heaven
[This is an ARCHIVE - To REGISTER or make a POST, click HERE to go to the Live Version of this forum]

 
    Go to:  Forum Home > General Discussion - Chemtrails
<< View Previous Topic | View Next Topic >>  
Author Message
steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 977
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:25 pm    Post Subject: 6 months in chemtrail heaven  

it seems many people live in areas where chemtrails are not common .

here , near Albury-Wodonga , i've observed chemtrails on about 50 or 60 percent of days , in the six months since i started looking . of these , five or six days have seen the entire sky heavily hazed , for all or most of the day .

about thirty days have seen widespread , heavy , persistent , trails , most following the Sydney-Melbourne flightpaths , others , about 15% , on trajectories other than commercial vectors . typically , on these days , you'd count about ten to fifteen trails in the sky at once .

on a dozen occasions it has been remarkable , how three or four trails have been perfectly evenly spaced and parallel .

on another approx 45 days , there have been trails visible for hours rather than whole days , in numbers below ten.

total number of days in which no chemtrail activity could be suspected , even by somebody with a very suspicious mind , would be less than 30 , maybe less than 15 , which were bright clear blue days . this in the context of pattern of large , slow-moving high pressure systems , producing a protracted (ten year ) drought .

one sunday , a qantas jet flew a north-south trajectory over our house , at about half the normal altitude , around 10,000 feet , heading south . utterly anomolous . very loud and left a big fluffy trail .

it has been observed that qantas jets leave trails on the same air that other airlines don't

i talk to everyone who will listen . even here , where i think , from what i can gather , these things are commoner than most places outside north america , and where the farming community has been suffering long and deep , you'd think the notion would catch on , but apparently not . i think there's a good chance it will , though.

am i correct in thinking that the Nelson area in NZ is the most heavily chemmed? can anyone tell me what happened when the cable under Cook strait failed to supply Auckland with power for three months?? is it true what i heard , that the cable was found to be undamaged??
Back to top  
Hector



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Wellington

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:51 am    Post Subject:  

Quote:
total number of days in which no chemtrail activity could be suspected , even by somebody with a very suspicious mind , would be less than 30 , maybe less than 15 , which were bright clear blue days . this in the context of pattern of large , slow-moving high pressure systems , producing a protracted (ten year ) drought .

Most of the atmosphere through the depth of the troposphere in large, slow-moving high pressure systems is descending (subsiding, as they say). That means it is warming; the temperature in the subsiding air is increasing. I suspect that on those days the ambient air temperature at flight cruise altitude was too warm for contrails. That's why you didn't (and commonly don't) see any in those conditions. Do you have some dates in that meteorological context when you (mistakenly) expected contrails and didn't see any?

Have contrails been seen recently, in the last 3 weeks or so?
Back to top  
steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 977
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:32 pm    Post Subject:  

the incidence of thick, persistent , what i call chem-trails , and what i perceive to be dissipated chem-trails , is very high around here . the past two days have had heavy haze , and persistent trails all over the sky , and in vectors including what i'd expect , from what i know of the regular flight patterns , plus other , anomalous vectors. this afternoon , the trails seem to be burning off , but yesterday , when a weak cold front went through, the cloud cover intensified very quickly , and thickly , hours ahead of the front , following intense chemtrail activity .

commonly , we see thick trails being laid at a lower altitude than , or a similar altitude to jets which leave the short , quickly dissipating con-trails , at the same time , and close to each other . the sky produced from the chemtrails , typically has "clouds" , which give an oily , scattered rainbow effect , when you look close to the sun .

the very high incidence of slow moving high pressure systems , has been attributed to the el nino effect . the temperatures in the southern ocean have been noted to be falling , which should auger more lows and rain , we hope .

i've been looking at some Wilhelm Reich influenced sites . they promise to be able to "intensify" clouds , and help bring rain . some people have been using the same idea in reverse , and reckon they can break up and disperse clouds and chemtrails . any opinion on that??
Back to top  
Hector



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Wellington

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:28 pm    Post Subject:  

Yes, I know... we see things like that here, too. It alarms some people, and not others. Do you have some dates when there were large, slow-moving high pressure systems, and when you (mistakenly) expected contrails and didn't see any?

Quote:
... an oily , scattered rainbow effect , when you look close to the sun .

That is iridescence, and has also been referred to as Mother of Pearl cloud. The colours are not exactly the rainbow colours, and can be quite intense. Iridescence is a well known and documented atmospheric optical effect.

Chembusters, etc. I made some comments and gave some references (which you may have already seen) in the topic at
https://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?t=757
It would seem that Australian farmers have taken heed and decommissioned their devices because, look, you're getting rain now... lots of it!
Back to top  
steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 977
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:50 pm    Post Subject:  

yes , Hector , that Let's Clear our Wellington Skies thread is great , some good links which i have bookmarked , and a wee bit of clear air turbulence , as well .

the past two and a half years , (and apparently also the previous seven ) , have seen slow-moving highs predominating far more than before . the lows and fronts have been pushed to the south , and have not penetrated far into the interior . the pattern of the appearance of chem-trails , is something i've only been watching for six months .......it was the feature article on this site , that really stirred me into having a look on the net , and sky-watching . we bought a (really really expensive ) bird-watchers spotting scope , 15-45 X , fully expecting that the new world order will , one day soon , see the error of their ways , turn their aircraft carriers into ploughshares , and then we can watch birds with it

there have been a lot of days with chemtrail pollution , far more than without . the answer to your question is no , because i have not yet got any feeling for being able to predict them . it's such a relief to see the occasional pure clean sky , in which only ordinary contrails appear . since getting our telescope , i have observed only qantas planes giving off chemtrails . other airlines , so far , even flying in the same air , or , most often , above , have not yet been observed to do so . although i use the scope frequently , conditions are not always favorable for positive identification , and this observation is based on a small sample

steve
Back to top  
steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 977
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:12 pm    Post Subject:  

the drought has still not broken here for most of us . most are getting another dry winter , with a few exceptions , like east gippsland , the last few days , which has gone from bushfires three months ago , to destructive floods . i can verify what Mel was saying , in the chemtrail reporting section , that very often , chemtrail activity is concentrated before an active front , and seems to cause the moisture to hang up in the air . one theory , coming from a fellow alleged to be an insider scientist , with the USAF is that there is clear air after a front passes through , and our beloved leaders are concerned that we should not be exposed to high levels of UV. as well, it has been mentioned that this clear air gives spy satellites a good visual and infrared window . whatever , with the exception of the bigger fronts ,(which don't always attract spray activity , and which presumably are too big to be susceptible ) we don't seem to be getting anything like what we think we should , from the smaller fronts , which are almost invariably preceded by heavy spraying. if i owned the newspapers , and networks , you would get much better information . thanks for being sceptical , Hector. it forces some of us to be more thorough in observation and deduction . but don't think you have to keep this burden forever . i'm sure someone else will pick it up , if you put it down.

Steve
Back to top  
 
    Go to:  Forum Home > General Discussion - Chemtrails
Page 1 of 1


Useful Search Engine Stuff: Google | Google New Zealand | Google Toolbar | Google Maps
Powered by phpBB Search Engine Indexer
Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group