Mysteries, Chemtrails, Aerosols :: Mysterious NZ

LukeZen · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Wellington, NZ

Hi all,

I've been reading the forums here for about 2 weeks and it has been a real eye-opening experience I can tell you that!

I see a lot of people here are from Wellington, and right now from my work (State Tower) I can see the sky is literally lined with Chemtrails!

What I'm thinking is: some of you know how to make chembusters, orgone tools, etc. I would love to not only learn how to make them, but to help put these around Wellington and take back what is ours.

Can we get a group going, a call to action... We all have strengths we can put together. Let's do this.

Thoughts?

smashdracs · Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 1002 Location: Wellington NZ

Yeah, Ive been taking loads of pics today, bad aint it :!:

LukeZen · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Wellington, NZ

It's awful... they'll just spread out into the familiar haze and goodbye blue sky.
There's got to be something we can do about it.

smashdracs · Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 1002 Location: Wellington NZ

It is hard to not be alarmed by what you see after spending some time watching these events unfold and to see how great the impact really is on the sky.
Even if these things are only water vapour the dramatic effect on the state of the sky during these events is cause enough for our concern.

LukeZen · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Wellington, NZ

Yeah it's not great having aeroplane pollution as it is... Thing is, I remember contrails from when I was younger... they followed the plane then would dissipate to nothing shortly after. None of this lingering, spreading. Why the change?

Whatever it is, it can't be good for us to breathe and take into our bodies.

Deano · Joined: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 741

Yup chemtrail operations in the Manawatu as well. Theyre getting a bit more cunning with the spraying as well. Chemtrails are a bit more erraticly spread but the results still the same, a mass of haze spreading over hours til eventually it is no more distinguishable from ordinary cloud. Take some pictures if you have a good vantage from your office. Upload them here it is a good public record of these events.

Cheers

elevate · Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 225 Location: Wellington, NZ

Hey man if you wana learn how to make a chembuster I can help you with that, all you need is to invest in some epoxy or polyester resin, youll need a decent amount of it, like 5-6 litres at least. Now that copper is so expensive you can use aluminium pipes and theres plently of scrap metal freely available around wellington, im keen to do a day of it and make some new TBs etc if others are keen we should get together, pool our resources and make some! If anyone knows of a good cheap supply of resin wholesale that would be usefull...

yesterday was a big chemtrail day and i got plently of pics, also i found my holepunch pics so ill post them shortly..

LukeZen · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Wellington, NZ

Hey I'm definitely keen on this - I'll keep an eye out for the resin and any aluminium pipes etc.

I think getting a group together to make chembusters and place them around our different suburbs (Kelburn/Te Aro myself) is an excellent idea and something really proactive and beneficial to everyone.

Tentative date for late Feb? Any others out there keen to join in?

elevate · Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 225 Location: Wellington, NZ

will see who else is keen and set a date for it

secondfield · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 377

Yeah, Im keen too. As of late, random trails have been apperaing over different parts of the city, last friday i was in upper hutt, saw two running E/W out there, but none in town. They were short (1-3 km max) and ran parallel to each other. Only about 500m seperation bettween them. Saw no aircraft either. Last saturday was heavy as elevate will testify, we were up mt kau kau floundering around in the gorse :lol: ... . Yesterday while in porirua we witnessed a large trail over the western suburbs, Running E/W again. Today around lunch as I was heading into town saw a single one over the harbour. Shouldnt all the aircraft flying at altitude be leaving them if the meteorlogical conditions exist for them to form?. Hmmmm...

secondfield · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 377

Yeah, Im keen too. As of late, random trails have been apperaing over different parts of the city, last friday i was in upper hutt, saw two running E/W out there, but none in town. They were short (1-3 km max) and ran parallel to each other. Only about 500m seperation bettween them. Saw no aircraft either. Last saturday was heavy as elevate will testify, we were up mt kau kau floundering around in the gorse :lol: ... . Yesterday while in porirua we witnessed a large trail over the western suburbs, Running E/W again. Today around lunch as I was heading into town saw a single one over the harbour. Shouldnt all the aircraft flying at altitude be leaving them if the meteorlogical conditions exist for them to form?. Hmmmm...

LukeZen · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Wellington, NZ

Awesome that's 3 of us so far :D

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say: I want my sky back!

Reading more posts on here... scary stuff out there. Bush's Sunscreen plan? Nasty. I remember reading in the letters section in Uncensored some guy in the US saw in his child's school book a section talking about a sunscreen layer in the sky. If children are growing up with this rubbish as a normal funtion of society... Scary stuff all right. I've long since suspected the Global Warming buzz was just propoganda for those who will benefit.

Melody Anderson · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:32 pm Post Subject:

LukeZen · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Wellington, NZ

The sheer arrogance of it all is unbelievable. A politician, representative of the government, telling the masses what the environment is doing in a convenient DVD format. It smells of propoganda. They even call it the Truth in the title of the story.

What's it leading to? Poisoning us? Weapons? I can even imagine the metals in they atmosphere even being used as a proto-forcefield deep into the future. Maybe that's a bit too far, but we're talking about a group capable of engineering such an idea and executing it without the consent of the people. Behind our backs.

There's no doubt about it, there's something going on in our skies and we, the people, have no choice in the matter.

elevate · Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 225 Location: Wellington, NZ

Al Gore is an establishment puppet and front-person for NWO interests so anything he pushes this hard has to be dodgy and has to be important to their continuing adgenda.
This helps us to see the bigger picture. That its a long term plan that has a set goal and purpose and we need to be aware and we need try our best to look out for our future in all of this.
i think the NWO will ultimately fail for various reasons. Its just how many people will die and suffer before that happens is what concerns me. Have we learned our lesson from nazi germany, its the same formula used back then but more refined and technologically and strategically advanced than before. The sooner we all wake up the better for us all. It really does seem to be a race against time, against humanities awakening to its own slavery...

Night_Owl · Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Wellington

Come on now, you knw what it's about, what it's ALL about.

It's about GOD

(GOLD, OIL ,DRUGS)

And the number 1 threat to mankind....
OVERPOPULATION
(Global warming dosen't even come close)

Everything evolves around those things.

I'm sure you've read "Crossing the Rubicon" maybe even "The Grand Chessboard", has it slipped your mind?

Here's a refresher...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4046564743329239954&q=%22Mike+Ruppert%22

Peak Oil IS upon us, the resource wars are in full flight. Ppl need to prepare...the question is, how prepaired are YOU?

smashdracs · Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 1002 Location: Wellington NZ

LukeZen · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Wellington, NZ

Are those doco nights still going at Southern Cross?
If they are I'll have to come along.

I've got a digital camera so I'll keep an eye out for photos of interest to us, including making any chembusters, HHGs etc and placing them around Wellington.

Hector · Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Wellington

Oh, no... not the chemtrails again? I was thinking as this topic progressed (up to the time I wrote this piece; Thursday night 8 February 2007) that we had turned a corner. smashdracs came so close to conceding that after all it is just water vapour, and that we were actually concerned with an issue of aesthetics. I admire your courage in venturing in that direction on this site. I could support a campaign on that basis to have something done about the proliferation of contrails.

I saw what was happening today (Thursday); that was something else, wasn't it? I missed that one at 12:20pm by a few minutes - right overhead. Wow! Potential 'black line' there, if you were in the right place. I took photos on borrowed equipment; views to the west, north, east and south. I would upload them but something.or.other is still null or not an object so you'll have to wait. Flickr just wouldn't do them justice, so I won't bother there unless pressed to.

Actually, I was going to run a spoof post about this event pretending to be a chemtrail complainer, but LukeZen beat me to describing the event. Ah well, another time then. Welcome to the forum, LukeZen. I like your approach to the controversy from a sky appreciation position rather than all this spraying nonsense. Good thinking! The present government is such a supporter of the arts and those sorts of things that you could really get some traction if you wanted to take it further, and with the public as well.
On the other hand, see http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc/aviation/index.htm, contrails may actually help to reduce surface temperatures and mitigate the effects of greenhouse gas heating effects by reducing incoming radiation. I'm not suggesting for a second that contrails are being 'used' in this way or for this reason.

If you really want to do something about pollution; how many FWDs are there in your neighbourhood? Killers in so many ways, no-rules, open-season kind of thing. I would like to get some of those green stickers... "fuel hog, road hog". I would make some stickers for the bull-bars on the front of those monsters. "What's this for? Where're the 'roos 'round 'ere, you moron?" Correct punctuation is so important when you're being so critical. Apostrophe's are such bastard's.

About those 'chembusters'. Word on the street is that the Croft-type resin/swarf/copper-pipe pattern is bad for the local climate.
See http://www.orgonelab.org/chemtrails.htm and http://www.orgonelab.org/sobuildaclb.htm
The more effective and simpler running/spraying water and metal stovepipe pattern is the way to go, apparently. The mode of operation certainly has a resonance with tangata whenua ideas of energising or de-energising material objects in running water. TWM would be happy about that. Maybe that's what his secret method is. Maybe not - it seems a bit to technical for what he is talking about.
See http://www.montalk.net/orgone/orgone.html for a description of a demonstration, how to build and how to use one sensibly, and design tips for range and effectiveness. There are dire warnings about using this pattern as well - see the second link above.
All these and more are linked from http://www.montalk.net/science/73/cloudbusting-resources
Incidentally, the Reichian orgone purists maintain that contrails are a sign of a healthily functioning atmosphere. Well, I certainly agree with that.

smashdracs · Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 1002 Location: Wellington NZ

Hector

Hector · Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Wellington

Melody Anderson · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:11 pm Post Subject:

Administrator · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:51 pm Post Subject:

Hector · Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Wellington

No, I am not a global dimming sceptic, or a global warming sceptic either. These are serious problems. I was referring to the aesthetic theme that was building in the topic.

LukeZen · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Wellington, NZ

Well I really hope you aren't posting with multiple personalities, Hector. Spoof "for laughs" or not - in an online forum where we're mostly faceless... that's not cricket, mate, and serve only to diminsh your reputation here.

Anyway, I did enjoy reading those links you posted, specifically too the size/length/number of pipes for what you want to acheive (localised cloudbusting, long range stuff, accurate or with a good spread, etc) so thanks for posting those.

From my lounge at the moment there's a pretty beautiful clear sky, looking East/South) which is fantastic to see. Perhaps thanks to the Southerly that's been blowing in.

Melody Anderson · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:49 pm Post Subject:

Hector · Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Wellington

Where did I snear? I said I could support a campaign on that basis to have something done about the proliferation of contrails.
I suggested to smashdracs lighten up when he became abusive.

_IF_ I were do do a spoof post, I would do it as Hector. It would obviously be a spoof, and by me. What would be the point if I were to register under another name? No one except me would know it was a spoof, a gentle wind-up, a touch of levity.

I appologise for overlooking to make my position clear on global dimming way back then.
I am sure of this: global dimming has nothing to do with 'chemtrails'.