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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 225
Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:28 am    Post Subject: Secret Microwave Tower found in Kelburn Wellington  

We found this on sunday while checking out a nearby cell tower. This is the first time weve seen any cellular towers disguised in NZ ! This is unusual as it has a LOT more highpower RF cables going into it than youd expect for any normal cell phone tower. Its definately capable of fairly high power use. Odd also that it would be disguised when just nearby a cell tower is in full view. This one with the chimney cover is obviously a big setup. Worrying for those who live next to it!
Notice in the video the cabling that goes from the back of the house up to the base of the fake chimney. Round the back in a large building seperate from the house, all locked up and absolutely no signs or markings to indicate who it belongs to? The room is big enough to have a lot of equipment housed in it plus it has a large aircon or extractor fan on the side which suggests considerable heat generation and a lot of high power equipment inside. Whats going on here? Should we be worried?
This is just a quick montage I made up, will refine it and add more footage when have the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncMms_lM2zw
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John Anderson



Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 387
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:09 pm    Post Subject:  

This is very very good investigative work elevate,

You are to be commended for your willingness to get out and do the hands on stuff. I wish we had a few more people doing this sort of thing. It's just too easy to sit at home and do all the investigating on the Internet. :(

That chimney certainly does look fake. Interesting that they haven't done a better job of hiding the cables. Surely it would have been possible to route them from inside the house and thus out of sight?

But what are you going to do with the info now? Is this the type of issue a Sunday paper would go for? Perhaps you need more details to fill out the story before approaching someone.

Please keep us informed on developments...
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Melody Anderson



Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 814
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:41 pm    Post Subject:  

Very fake looking chimney - and very mysterious....

1.) I don't know Wellington too well, is there anything significant about the Kelburn area, do you think?

2.) Have you viewed the building with the fake chimney on Google Earth? I would love to see what you can identify by doing so.

In the case of places like Tangimona, Google Earth displays noticeably blurring renderings over the GCSB base there, in comparison to the surrounding farmland...
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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 225
Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:38 pm    Post Subject: fake plastic chimneys  

The reason the cables go in the bottom like that i think is because they must have to have the cables completely seperate from the house as some sort of regulation for using commericial/residential buildings due to the interference from the high power RF and power cables. Thats why theres a metal casing around the wires all the way down the roof and side of house as sheilding. Also the metal casing is 3-4 inches from the house on brackets so the whole thing just biggybacks onto the house but with totally seperate power supply etc... fully self contained at the back in a seperate box with no windows... B & J have got some more pics and I will update my video with more pics etc later tonite...
Its located right smack in the middle of Kelburn shops, literally above the shopping mall and cafes in the central hub of Kelburn...also near is a church, there seems to be a pattern of locations at central hubs which makes sense of course... this site is also on a ridge line so it gets good coverage on both sides... it seems that churches and schools may often be located at grid points and its possible cellular sites are also related to grid points.
This fake chimney is definately a transmitting station of some sort with high power capability, theres no doubt about that. Its also around the 1ghz region so its microwave frequencies. Whats surprising is the possible power levels as it has something like 16 thick RF cables and power cables going in which could pump out pretty high watts.
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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:58 pm    Post Subject: I can just picture the sunday paper article now..  

I think it would be hard to get any reasonable press coverage....I can just picture the newpaper article now.. it would go something like this...

[The Dominion Puss]
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Greenies concerned about cellphone towers blow a lot of smoke over fake Chimney designed to hide the unsightly towers from the city skyline.
A group of local residents of wellington have been driving around taking radiation readings and observing cell phone towers due to what turn out to be unfounded concerns over their safety.
When we called Sally Fullashit, a spokesperson for vodafone and asked her about this she was quick to reassure us that if their was any reason for concern at all the public would be the first to know. Sally continued to say that all cell phone towers fall well within regulations for safe levels of background radiation.etc etc blah blah.. Modern cellular towers are very directional and use minimal power due to efficent use of multiple antennas blah blah blah..drone drone...
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But seriously Im guessing they wouldnt want ANY mention of cellphone towers in the press at all... they dont want people to make the connection with towers and possible health risks, so i think there would be considerable trouble getting anything printed in local papers. This is something that just doesnt get a mention in the news.
It would be a real headache for the cellular companies so im guessing they have already been lobbying and doing deals with media in nz (and the same the world over. )
I recon in NZ vodafone for example has already paid for tvnews items in the past and has probably some agreement that no negative items be shown on cellphones.
What I mean is its a known fact that a certain percentage of 'news' items on tv are actually a paid for "technology segment" (ad) and that in some states in the USA they are pushing for networks to state which news is 'real' and what is paid for, but did u know its not illegal currently to show a paid for "technology segment" during news without telling the viewers its a paid for ad?
A recent example is when vodafone rolled out their live video-calls on tv network news, bet that was a paid for 'news' segment. It will be hard to get any coverage for cellular concerns id imagine.
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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:03 pm    Post Subject: Video update for fake chimney  

Heres the update:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncMms_lM2zw

Jas

Ive also updated link at top of this thread to latest version.
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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 225
Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:18 pm    Post Subject: googlemaps  

Hi there Melody

Heres the googlemaps result for Kelburn shops area:
As you can see from this pic and the map we can make out the black water tank on the light blue roof in the middle but no chimney! This means firstly that the cellphone tower must have been put up recently and after this satelite image was taken, and also that theres no chimney belonging to that house !



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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:00 pm    Post Subject: online map  

Ive started a group for cellular sites on zoomin maps that people can add to so that we can build up a online map of cell sites and assess the coverage better... heres my first entry:

http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/wellington/kelburn/-fake+chimney+cellular+tower/?place/show&group=5221

Jas
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Melody Anderson



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Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:47 pm    Post Subject:  

Excellent elevate... (and an interesting side story about Richard Langston - and, frankly, in my opinion, it shows a pathetic lack of courage on TV3's part - OK the 911 story is controversial, but a movie screening is hardly a national security issue - the film screened on SKY recently for heaven's sake)

Back to the fake chimney etc.

1.) Are you regarding this as some sort of new cellphone tower - or some other kind of transmitting facility?

2.) Do you assume it has been put there by a telephone company or some government agency?

3.) Whatever the chimney facade is hiding is obviously too hot to allow it be in full public view - what could be this controversial?

4.) Is there any possibility this could be the work of a private individual?

5.) Do you imagine that this is a one-off? I expect you're keeping your eyes peeled for others like it...

6.) You would imagine that location has to be intensely significant, otherwise, why not just erect the equipment on some private property in a more secluded location...
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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:17 pm    Post Subject: info  

The assumptions i make are that its been put up by a cellphone company or govt... but if it was a govt agency their cover story would be that its a normal cellular array put up by a cellular company... that has been disguised in order to not mess up the skyline etc for asthetic reasons.
Id say there are many more like this in NZ, Cell towers are commonly disguised in other countries. Fake trees are very common in US, UK, Mexico, Africa etc...
Check this out... its a church in USA with a cellular antenna on their cross..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f4IgxhD074&mode=related&search=

I think its disguised cause its a large setup that would look ugly and imposing and would make people think "Hey is that safe?"... out of sight out of mind...

The exact location could be a grid point to maximise mind control effects? hard to say ..or it could just be the best spot for cellular coverage north and south of the ridge-line...
if anyone can find out more info for us that would be great !
I guess one option would be to simply ask the resident of that house who put it up there and if they are getting any $$ for allowing it on their roof !
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Colin



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 140
Location: Auckland, NZ

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:41 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi All,

I have done some brief research into the installation in the video and include below what I have found.

I'm not really sure what to make of it or what it might mean. Perhaps other Mysterious NZ members can make use of this info and add to it or clarify its importance or otherwise.

Anyway... I hope it helps...


Frequency & Spectrum

Radio frequencies in New Zealand are managed by the Ministry of Economic Development - Radio Spectrum Management.

From the video, the device seemed to be operating at a frequency of 929.329MHz

Frequencies in this spectrum are allocated to devices called Studio to Transmitter Links (STLs).

These devices, as the name suggests, form radio links from a broadcaster's studio to the their transmission station at another location.

An engineering discussion paper on spectrum allocations for STLs can be found here: http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/stl/discussion/index.html

Of particular interest is the 900MHz spectrum information, here: http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/stl/discussion/discussion-05.html

To summarise the info contained in these links....

Quote:
4.1 Background
The majority of countries have some spectrum allocated to STLs at 900MHz. These frequencies provide a useful compromise between bandwidth, path length and economical equipment costs but spare channels are now becoming scarce in high usage areas. This congestion is being experienced in many countries including the main centres of New Zealand.

The 900MHz spectrum is also of high value for other mobile and fixed applications creating competing demands for future allocations. Resolving these issues requires the appropriate use of new technologies and spectrum policy.

4.2 Current Usage

4.2.1 Current Spectrum Allocations at 900MHz
Currently the bands 915 to 921MHz and 929 to 935MHz are allocated in New Zealand to uni-directional links such as STLs. These bands have channel plans to accommodate both mono and stereo programmes of FMBC quality with channel bandwidths of 250 or 500kHz.

With the growth in FMBC stations, especially in the main population centres, these bands have become congested. In central Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch available channels are limited and 11 licences have been accommodated in an alternative fixed services band 849 to 851MHz.

The New Zealand bands do not align with the allocations in USA and Australia but most equipment is designed to operate over the New Zealand bands without modification.

Major Users
The two major radio network operators, The Radio Network Ltd and Canwest Mediaworks Ltd hold over 50% of the licences for STLs at 900MHz.



Total licences in New Zealand

Total licences in 900MHz bands: 443

Major Users
The Radio Networks Ltd: 128 licences
CanWest MediaWorks Ltd: 101 licences
Others: < 22 licences each

Wellington region: 47 licences


I will try to find out who has a license to operate at the frequency of 929.329MHz in Wellington. It should be freely available, public domain information. I will post my results when I obtain them.
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Lew Archer



Joined: 09 Nov 2006
Posts: 27
Location: Wellington

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:29 am    Post Subject:  

That's good spotting on your part. What alerted you to it in the first place?
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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 225
Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:26 am    Post Subject: alert  

we spotted it after checking readings for the celltower next to it, saw the cables etc and checked it out
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Lew Archer



Joined: 09 Nov 2006
Posts: 27
Location: Wellington

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:14 pm    Post Subject:  

Ah right.

Colin: Any word on the licence holder?
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Hector



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Wellington

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:41 am    Post Subject: Mystery solved in the Village  

On a whim, I called Vodafone just before Christmas. The 0800 number in the book rings in the Auckland office so I asked to speak the Wellington engineer in charge of installations. I was asked for my number and told I would be called back.

The Wellington engineer in charge called me back the next day, and I asked him about the Kelburn Village cell site. He said it was one of theirs, and that they've had one there for about 10 years. I was told that the Vodafone antenna was due for an upgrade and the property owner wanted the installation to be a bit more discrete. The fake chimney was the solution they decided upon. The newer one just to the north, above the cafe, is a Woosh site. The engineer was a bit amused that they just stuck it up there while Vodafone had gone to all the trouble of hiding theirs.

All the cellular antenna sites have the bundle of thick coaxial cables and a stout shed nearby for the electronic equipment. Have a good look at one... there's one handy to the Silverstream railway station, and a Telecom one quite close there, too.

So, anyway, mystery solved in the Village. It's a 10 year old Vodafone site in a ridge location with good coverage, and the property owner wanted it to be less obvious for whatever reason - it doesn't matter. In all likelihood he gets something for the lease and access to the site for maintenance, etc.
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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 225
Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:49 pm    Post Subject: yup  

yup thats what we figured it was for, the thing is they are designed to handle a lot of juice if needed and even within the safety limits for non-ionizing radiation there are concerns for constant exposure and the stress load it puts on someone living or working next to it everyday. Constant low levels of RF have been proven to create a low-stress reaction in the body that weakens the immune systems over time... in tests with animals exposed to RF (radio freq) shorts bursts of high power were less harmfull than constant low RF exposure, the safety standards vary a lot from country to country and what one country considers safe can be 100 or even a 1000 times higher than annother countries standard. those countries that bothered to test for non-ionizing reactions discovered a need for much stricter rules. Like Germany for example.
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elevate



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 225
Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:54 pm    Post Subject: important related info  

So if the antenna is 10 years old then see info below about possible cancer risk...


Australia's leading insurance company, Mercantile Mutual, is reported to have objected to plans by Vodafone to build a transmitting tower on its Sydney office block. In its formal objection it said: "There is an increasing body of scientific and medical evidence of the risk to health posed by exposure to emissions from telecommunication base stations. The risk to health may expose us as owners of the property to liability for injury to persons who are even alleged to have been exposed to emissions from the base station".

Recently the giant Insurance group Swiss Re stated in their publication Electro-Smog A Phantom Risk, that on the basis of today’s present knowledge alone it must be expected that a EMF claim would succeed. This view has been supported by the recent exit from the re-insurance market of Scandinavia’s biggest insurance group, Skandia. They cite reducing exposure to potential EMF claims as being one of the reasons.

The worlds leading insurance companies are taking this seriously, you should to.

Mast Sanity is currently collecting evidence from several sites across the United Kingdom where cancer clusters have become obvious around masts that have been up between 4 and 6 years. When you consider the fact that smoking kills usually after 20 – 40 years of non-stop smoking and that asbestosis kills 20 years or so after exposure this is a very frightening situation… We are talking less than 10 years for the first cancers to be obvious what is it going to be like in 20 years? However Cancer is the end result of this. What the scientists say (and this bit is accepted by the NRPB and Govt) is that very low-level radiation (as from masts) affects the level of one of our hormones, Melatonin. Melatonin basically keeps us asleep at night and then hoovers up all the toxins in our system, including the cancer cells that we all produce. Eventually the cancer cells can “collect” together and cause cancer however before that happens we get instances of headaches, dizziness, nosebleeds, lack of concentration and behavioural problems.. The list seems to be endless. The very young and the elderly are more susceptible to all these illnesses. There is also evidence that it causes chromosomal problems therefore links to birth defects and miscarriage have been made.

There is also another problem that has been reported. Unlike television waves and radio waves from other telecommunication units whose waves are continuous, mobile phone emissions PULSE. The frequency at which they pulse closely resembles the frequency of the electrical pulses of the brain. It is suggested that this is why there are increased reports of epilepsy, depression, headaches, migraines etc in communities/schools that have masts.

Mobile phone technology is a new developing industry. There has been no full and developed research program into the long-term effects - there hasn't been time. Please treat this issue seriously and stop this masts going up where we all know there may be problems.

You will have seen the recent news coverage about the Dutch Government study, which showed illnesses in people living close to 3G masts. It is especially worrying as the 3G systems have only been introduced in Europe in the last 6-12 months. We can confirm that we have numerous people who have contacted us as a result of illness occurring in their households since 3G masts have been turned on. The illnesses reported include those found in the Dutch study but also include a number of other illnesses which we believe are classical symptoms of living in the vicinity of mobile phone base stations.

I deal with several community groups from across the country. One of those groups has a little girl seriously ill with Leukaemia since a mast went up (she is not the only one in the community). Another group has a little girl whose epileptic fits have increased 10 fold since the mast close to her home was turned on. These get better when she goes on holiday and when the mast has been turned off. There are many more instances, which the operators claim, are circumstantial, you will have to decide for yourself. However, many businesses are finding that they are being boycotted by local residents if they have accepted one or more masts on their property. Many landowners are now deciding that the local community is more important than personal financial gain.
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steve clougher



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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:07 pm    Post Subject:  

what a great story . nice that the vodaphone engineer is friendly , too .
would those cables be DC? wouldn't that emit a field that would penetrate the house?
cheers , Steve
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secondfield



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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:48 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi there Steve,
The cables you can see running up the roof are RF (radio frequency) low loss coaxial cable. More than likely LDF-4 7/8'. This is fairly heavy cable with a foam dielectric, used because it is 'low loss' ie does not attenuate (dampen) the radio signal while it travels the length of the transmission line to the antennae. The coax is a 'shielded' transmission line, it is designed not to radiate RF energy , but to transfer it to the antenna in an efficent manner. Just because it looks bulky that does not indicate that it is carrying high power levels. This just indicates it is well sheilded so there is little loss until the signal reaches the antenna to be radiated.
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