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Joined: 23 Nov 2005
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Location: Wellington NZ
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:13 am Post Subject: The "Epidemic Prepardness bill"
Will everyone please get up in arms!?!
Does anyone know if this bad ass piece of work has passed???
Some points:
This law supercedes all other laws and rights…eg the right to freedom of medical choice.
Personal property can be commandeered, i.e. one’s home and car if considered needed.
The ability for police to use force on people SUSPECTED of having bird flu ( or ANY flu).
If they refuse they can be quarantined and … if they resisit ” enforced vaccination” they will be fined $ 4,000 and sent to jail for 6 months…
Law enforcement powers are expanded and this law can be enforced during a pandemic and during ” inter pandemic ” times..IE anytime the govt wants.
The language refers to ” medical officers”. Who are they? Does not say Doctors…
The language in the Action Plan even refers specifically to Tamiflu vaccinations which have not been tested and which was created to reduce symptomes of 2 flu viruses not including the Bird Flu.
Please take some time to review this and share the info with everyone you know.
If you read some of the transcripts from Parliament you get the message that there are no procedures in place to handle an epidemic outbreak if it occurs at present. This is of course of huge concern to people already afraid of something like this happening; medical facilities inundated, breakdown of law and order, the impact on business and therefore economy etc. so it has to be addressed.
That’s fine and understandable however I’m not at ease with the following of the party line with the World Health Organization with what appears to be blind faith.
This said by Dr Jonathan Coleman of the National Party on 9 May 2006 at the first hearing:
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It is high time that we had this bill, because I can tell members that bird flu is not just a threat; it is imminent. It is almost upon us, and this bill is sorely needed. We cannot ignore the threat of bird flu any longer. The H5N1 strain of the virus is endemic in many countries in Asia, notably Viet Nam, and we know that with international air travel, it is just a matter of a short flight away. What is more, the strain has already caused numerous illnesses and deaths amongst humans in Asia, and the World Health Organization notes “that never before in the history of avian influenza have so many countries been simultaneously affected than in the past 5 or 6 years.”
The way things have been going, bird flu doesn’t seem to be anywhere near the threat that it was made out to be….
Some interesting information from Lorraine Day, M.D in the US just to give another perspective, or perhaps even reality, about bird flu:
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2. What are the symptoms of REGULAR flu (NOT avian flu)? These are also given on the CDC’s web site at www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm. They are the following:
Fever of 100.4 degrees F or higher
Headache
Extreme tiredness
Dry cough
Sore throat
Runny or stuffy nose
Muscle aches
Stomach symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, also can occur but are more common in children than adults.
3. Question: How does anyone differentiate the symptoms of AVIAN FLU (bird flu) from the symptoms of REGULAR FLU?
Answer: As a physician, I can tell you that it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell the difference!
“How many people die each year from REGULAR FLU (NOT bird flu)?
“The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) states, “Every year in the United States, on average, 36,000 people die from flu.”
But this is a deliberate deception by the CDC!
“Below are the actual number of flu associated deaths from 1999 to 2002 from the CDC National Vital Statistic Reports:
753 deaths in 2002 (page 16 of report)
257 deaths in 2001 (page 16 of report)
1,765 deaths in 2000
1,665 deaths in 1999
“How does the CDC get from 753 flu deaths to its statement that 36,000 flu deaths occur annually?
“By combining flu deaths with pneumonia deaths. The CDC National Vital Statistic Report for 2002 lists Influenza and Pneumonia as the 7th leading cause of death in 2002. You probably already guessed it – only 753 of those deaths were flu-associated and the rest of the 36,000 were pneumonia-associated. If all flu-associated deaths are removed, pneumonia associated deaths still ranks number 7 by itself. The media used the false 36,000 deaths number in its coverage – 50 times the actual 2002/2003 number.
“Are the 257 to 1,765 reported annual flu deaths from 1999 to 2002 even accurate?
And this:
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My Talk With The CDC
Several months ago, I called the CDC and spoke with one of the doctors in the “Flu Division.” I identified myself by name and as a physician, and he gave me his name and position. I asked him how a physician like myself could possibly differentiate “Bird flu” from “regular flu.” He answered, “You really can’t.”
I asked him if we physicians were asked to go house to house to check for people with bird flu with the possibility of quarantine of the patient (for how long?) and the potential for the quarantine to cause the person to lose income or even to lose his job, how could we distinguish “Bird flu” from the “regular flu”? He agreed it would be virtually impossible.
Then I asked him why President George W. Bush was publicly contemplating QUARANTINE for these patients? His response was, “He didn’t get that from us here at the CDC. That’s ALL politics!”
Interesting to note the date that submissions closed on this....6/6/06 ie 666!
I wonder if that was a deliberate hint at our illuminati masters hand in this or a mere coincidence???
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 173
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:17 am Post Subject:
I've sent my letters off stating my objection. I'm not to concerned about the whole issue though as we have such a small pissie army and police force which can't even control a small number of stupid criminals let alone the whole country ,hahaha.
Can anyone tell me what is so bad about 666, I mean really another name for the devil ( A metaphor) hardly worries me. As for the illumanti most people refer to, I have seen nothing illumanting about them ie. any behaviour above the level of zoo apes.
I don't think that it's bad, rather that it is interesting as it has been noted many times before how numbers appear to be significant with events i.e. 911 and 7/7 with the London bombings. If you do a little research you'll find out more.
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 173
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:00 pm Post Subject:
I'm aware of the links to such dates and there apparant links to nothing from guys like Alex Jones, David Icke and co. but they never give a real reason for there use. Anyway 911 was actually 912 to us NZ'ers and really should be 12/09/06 or at best 11/9 which means nothing untill you sprinkle a little media magic on it.
I'm very interested if anyone has a use for these numbers.
Syncronisty is apart of daily life when your looking for it, even when your not I find.
after all i found myself up in the middle of the night on 12/9 with my little son who never wakes up and just happened to turn the TV on straight to cnn (very unusual for me) and low and behold I see a plane fly into the second tower live!
Well there are many other web sites out there with a plethora of information about numbers and their meanings. Here’s some interesting numbers, synchronicity perhaps?
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Twin Towers, standing side by side, look like the number 11
The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11. Adding this: 9+1+1=11
September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year: 2+5+4=11
After September 11, there were 111 days more to the end of the year.
911 = emergency phone call
119 is the area code to Iraq
New York City has 11 letters.
New York was the 11 state to join the union
Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.
'George W. Bush' has 11 letters
Osama Bin Laden's name add up to 11.
The Pentagon consists of 11 letters
The first plane crushing against the Twin Towers was flight #11
Flight # 11 was carrying 92 passengers Adding this number gives us: 9+2=11
Flight # 77 who also hit the towers, was carrying 65 passengers Adding this: 6+5=11
The total number of victims inside the planes were 254: 2+5+4=11
The tragedy of 3/11/2004 in Madrid also adds up to: 3+1+1+2+4=11. It occurred 911 days after 911
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 173
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:14 pm Post Subject:
The website theory was a little to selective to be taken seriously for me. but thank you anyway I enjoyed reading it all regardless.
I find synchronicities every day, Robert Anton Wilson has a good experiment in his book Prometheus Rising in the first chapter if memory serves me correctly I recommend trying it. (Its all most like synchronicity is just part of life and you either notice it or not)
maybe its me but I still haven't read/seen or been told by anyone what is so scary/wrong/evil or anything about 666 or any of the other silly scary numbers floating around eg. 33
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Posts: 83
Location: wellington
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:29 pm Post Subject:
Carus wrote:
Well there are many other web sites out there with a plethora of information about numbers and their meanings. Here’s some interesting numbers, synchronicity perhaps?
