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Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:21 pm Post Subject:
info4 wrote:
Look like 747's to me but blown up images would be good
I presume you mean that thelawnguy might have larger original images than he has posted on the Photo Bucket web site? At a size that might show the plane more clearly?
Or you might mean actual 'blow ups'... If you have an image editing program like Photoshop, Picasa, Irfanview, Photoshop Elements etc, you can download the images in question and enlarge them for a possible better view. Of course, enlarging them in this way is likely to cause distortion, but it might give somewhat of a clearer view to anyone who knows aircraft...
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:09 am Post Subject: i've seen the same thing over northshore NZ
I live on the North Shore/auckland and on sunny days I'll see planes with contrails just like that, they never seem to be on a typical flight route and the trails last for hours.
I never noticed it untill i researched a little about it...
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 387
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:21 pm Post Subject:
Hi satanzhand,
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I live on the North Shore/auckland and on sunny days I'll see planes with contrails just like that, they never seem to be on a typical flight route and the trails last for hours.
I never noticed it untill i researched a little about it...
I am interested to know of how many years you've been seeing the trails. Below is a quote from a recent post of mine that will explain my interest...
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Between the years 1999 to 2003 Mel and I lived in a home with a very wide view over Auckland. You can see it here:
395kb image, opens in new window - Internet Explorer users, remember to click on the enlarge icon in the bottom right of the pic (expand to original size) and scroll in order to display it at it's full glory.
The irony is that in about three and a half years we did not see one Persistent Contrail, not one. And it wasn't for lack of looking, we spent a lot of time looking at the sky, day and night. We work from home and the view from the office was much as you see it in the pic, plus the view from the bedroom was much the same - no curtains or drapes, not needed. Yes, not one PT. Since we have moved to our current home, which has not much of a long view as it is surrounded by large mature Kauri, Rimu etc, we have seen many PTs - strange...
To be able to ascertain a truly anomalous flight from a flight on a normal route you need to understand the normal pattern of flights over Auckland. For a start, any contrail observed over this city will be from an international flight, as no domestic jet flights fly over Auckland.
The Airports in NZ that handle International flights are:
Auckland
Hamilton
Palmerston North
Wellington
Christchurch
Queenstown
Dunedin
So in this case, observed flights will be heading to or from one of six airports, and you could possibly rule out Hamilton flights, as descending or ascending altitudes may not be high enough to create a trail.
This thread has lots of info on international flights and carriers etc:
There are also many freight services to and from NZ, for example, Air New Zealand Cargo operates over 380 international flights per week, serving 32 cities in 18 countries around the globe (they say). Just about all of these are probably to/from Auckland so will be not much of a factor in your observations.
If you have Teletext available 430 will give you a menu of all NZ airports and up to date arrival and departure times. I find Teletext the easiest way to access schedules.
On the Internet, individual airports publish flight schedules (some are better than others). Here are the main ones:
There will be some exceptions to the schedules, I'm not sure if they include dedicated freight aircraft and I have heard that Aerolineas Argentineas actually fly to Antarctica and overfly New Zealand on the way. Other flights may be military and, of course, the occasional UFO which don't usually leave contrails in any case. :lol:
Now, the only other thing you need is an accurate map of international flight vectors - and that is coming to this site soon...
It does take a little giving of the self in order to become a reliable observer and reporter, but unless the info you base your conclusions on is sound, then your comments may always be called into question...
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:42 pm Post Subject: sorry
sorry i havent got the time to be a reliable reporter, but I do like to watch planes and so does my family.
I know the contrails aren't normal and probably are of a sinister nature, but personally i'd rather put my efforts (even though they aree mostly wasted) into easily proved things like vaccines/flouride brainwashing etc..then contrails...
but I applaude your efforts.
Here is a little more info about what I saw.
First and third siting plane flying high travelling northish southish across dairy flat ( where i live/work).
2nd was flying north to south off long bay beach and at first looked like a rocket there was some much stuff coming out of the back of it and its rate of accent then it contiuned just off the shore line hiding south at a stable height, It was very weird my kids were insistant that it must be "rocket' off 'little einsteins' even though they can name most aircraft( 747-700 etc etc) from a distances.
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:08 pm Post Subject:
Hi Satanzhand,
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sorry i havent got the time to be a reliable reporter, but I do like to watch planes and so does my family
I understand, unfortunately reliable reporters are rather thin on the ground at this time. :(
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I know the contrails aren't normal
Some definitions of 'Normal'
usual, ordinary, conventional, typical, or representative type, average or within certain limits.
What you have seen and reported above has, again unfortunately, become normal in our skies. The aviation industry, atmospheric and meteorological science etc, has all told us repeatedly that it is normal. North/South trails over Auckland represent international flights to or from destinations further down the country. So you will have to accept sights such as you report as being normal - unless you or anyone can provide evidence to the contrary...
