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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:23 am Post Subject:
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own.
I think anyone who can use google could work out what a "False Flag" operation is (see above).
And as a tax paying/voting citizen of NZ who didn't vote the current goverment in to send our troops off to fight Puritan revenge wars, I think I have every right to know a little about what there up to! FREEDOM of information act! makes anything this goverment(my goverment) do my business and I have a right to know and so does everyone else in NZ.
The New Zealand Special Air Service, along with other members of the New Zealand Army, have a superb reputation for producing some of the best Combat Trackers in the world. As a result Kiwi troops often teach these skills to the various US Special Operations Forces units and others around the world, including the British SAS and Australian SASR.
Currently troopers of the NZSAS are deployed in Afghanistan where their skills in tracking are being used to good effect in hunting down members of the Al Qaeda terrorist network. The US has always been keen for New Zealand support in the past and the current War on Terrorism is no exception. New Zealand SAS soldiers have had extensive experience in the Middle East including fighting Islamic fundamentalist groups at the invitation of the Sheik of Oman.
Missions in various capacities have existed in a on going fashion since the the 70's, through to the Gulf War and to the present day. More recently, A 'clash' with Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines ended in another successful contact for the NZSAS. Currently NZSAS personnel are working alongside Australian SASR soldiers in the Anzac tradition. It can be deduced they are also working alongside their US counterparts, though, like in Vietnam most operations will be independent, and in smaller units. Initial deployment of 30 NZSAS troops were provided logistical support from two RNZAF C130 Hercules'. Undoubtedly as history has shown taskings will include training of local Anti-Taliban Afghan forces, deep reconnaissance and, where required, offensive operations. Operating in traditionally small units of no more than five men the NZSAS has been operating covertly at very high altitudes, above Al Qaeda positions. They guided in some 1500 Allied troops during 'Operation Anaconda'.
US Presidential Unit Citation
In December 2004 the NZSAS was awarded a US Presidential Unit Citation for their involvement in the war in Afghanistan from October 2001 to March 2002. The citation is for extraordinary heroism in action against an armed enemy in extremely difficult and hazardous conditions.
Third Rotation to Afghanistan
The third deployment of 1st NZSAS Group elements departed for Afghanistan by way of two US C17 Globemasters in early June of 2005. With them they took 11 of the new Pinzgauer (Special Operations) 6x6 vehicles. Again these troops will be operating in the harsh and mountainous regions along the Pakistani border. Their missions include direct action taskings and traditional long range reconnaissance missions on behalf of allied forces.
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:54 pm Post Subject: right to know / false flag
both iraq and afghanistan are illegal wars, a false flag op on 911 got our SAS into Afghanistan and false lies got us into Iraq. Maybe, just maybe, since our tax money pays for our elite troops to be in these illegal wars, we probably do have a right to know what they are getting up to.
and since british SAS were caught red handed in false flag ops in basra a while ago, dressed as arabs turbans and all, driving a car full of guns and ammo and shooting at police, theres a 50/50 chance that our SAS are up to no good.
let's hope not but wouldn't it be nice to have the right to know...?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:56 am Post Subject: we
we do have a freedom of information act here in nz, its almost identical to the US one. We can apply for info from the govt and the govt has the right to refuse if the information is deemed to be harmful to 'national security'... just like the national security act in the US... in other words harmful to the government. Always just replace 'govt' with 'national security' and youll get the idea... our govt will deny access to info using this act time and time again as an excuse to avoid criminal proceedings against itself. Same goes for MOH.. If they refuse info you then can got the Ombudsman, which is really just a trick to make us think we are getting another chance, but if you goto the website and read the ombudsman guidelines youll quickly see there are a number of ways he can deny access... one such loophole for them is 'commercially sensitive information' ... in the case of MenB vaccine I could not access any info on reported side effects or adverse events from the raw data as it was deemed 'commercially sensitive information' for chiron only, as per letters i recieved from MOH in another thread on this messageboard.
They have no problem with revealing side effects of a minor nature, but any info that might be embarrasing suddenly becomes 'commercially sensitive' which is such a load of BS !!
