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Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:14 pm Post Subject: Invasive Government Tracking comes a step closer in NZ
An article in Stuff this morning has my blood boiling. :evil: Here are a few 'choice' quotes from it - be sure and read the whole article though...
Stuff Article wrote:
A controversial plan to track would-be criminals from the womb is being considered by a Government taskforce charged with cutting the number of prison inmates.
The plan has yet to receive Cabinet backing but has drawn praise from the country's top Youth Court judge, Andrew Becroft...
..."It's clear there is a tiny group who are at risk of being serious criminal offenders(my emphasis)," she said. "A lot of things that put people at risk of offending are characteristics of their family and parents."...
Judge Becroft disputed the plan could be stigmatising, saying it was a positive way of helping families in need.
"It can easily be seen as Big Brother and stigmatising, but it is a holistic assessment to identify those with high-risk factors and provide them with positive intervention and assistance," he said.
Last month, Children's Commissioner Cindy Kiro unveiled her plan for the development of a national database tracking every child from birth to 18 years...
...Examples of the characteristics of parents most likely to bear criminals were the poor, Maori, the poorly educated, those with drug or alcohol addictions, those with criminal records and people who had been physically or sexually abused as children, she said.
So for a tiny group 'at risk of offending from day one' our political visionaries are willing to sacrifice everyone's right to privacy. What's more, I don't think that poor, Maori, poorly educated, people with drug or alcohol addictions, people with criminal records or people who have been abused represent a 'tiny' group at all.
If this isn't Big Brother (or stigmatising) wtf is?!!
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 814
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:36 pm Post Subject:
satanzhand wrote:
I dont know of any groups really trying to appose all this crazyness do you??
Well one of the articles talks about Civil Liberties groups responses:
"Council for Civil Liberties president Tony Ellis said that at first glance the New Zealand trial "does cause alarm bells".
He was concerned that, as with any technology, there was the potential for misuse. Any proposed law change would be closely watched by civil libertarians."
I suppose I am concerned about this last statement. Closely watching as the law is passed doesn't sound very proactive.
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 173
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:23 pm Post Subject: also concerned
Melody Anderson wrote:
He was concerned that, as with any technology, there was the potential for misuse. Any proposed law change would be closely watched by civil libertarians."
I suppose I am concerned about this last statement. Closely watching as the law is passed doesn't sound very proactive
Yes I agree we will all be watching as our freedoms get taken away. Most people are satisfied with a answer from the goverment which states we wont use it to prosecute/track you. The Thing is though they can and they dont have to tell us either. When has a goverment ever acted in the best interests of its people?
One good thing I guess is technology is normally pretty easy to hack and bet(for some).
