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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:14 pm Post Subject: Hani Hanjour - Myths and Miracles
The government and in fact, all authority in this country whether it be civil, military, scientific or whatever, are compelled to accept the official line on 9/11, they have no choice - and probably do not genuinely know that there even is a choice. Us of the general public however, are to free to question, to research and to discover alternative information, viewpoints and indeed, facts. Of course most of the public that do have this freedom choose not to exercise it and thus by default generally accept what they are given. It’s like living in different worlds.
For example, take this article about the deportation of Yemeni national, Rayed Mohammed Abdullah Ali from New Zealand because of his alleged association with Saudi Arabian Hani Hanjour, who is believed to have piloted American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon:
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Man with links to 9/11 pilot deported
10 June 2006
A man the Government says had a direct link with a September 11 terrorist has been deported from New Zealand because he was a threat to national security.
Immigration Minister David Cunliffe confirmed today Yemeni national, Rayed Mohammed Abdullah Ali, was deported because his continued presence in New Zealand posed a threat.
"He was directly associated with persons responsible for the terrorist attacks in the United States on September 11, 2001," Mr Cunliffe said in a statement.
He was deported under the rarely used Section 72 of the Immigration Act 1987, which required the approval of the Governor General.
Mr Cunliffe said immigration officials and police arrested the man in Palmerston North 13 days ago on May 29 and he was deported to Saudi Arabia the next day. He had arrived in New Zealand in February.
"The individual's identity became apparent only after he arrived in New Zealand. He used a variation of his name in applying for entry to New Zealand. Once his real identity became known, he was identified as having close connections to people involved with the September 11 2001 attacks in the United States, and had been named in the 9/11 Commission Report.
"Initially, he lived in Auckland where he undertook some English language training, the stated purpose of his visit. He then shifted to Palmerston North where he was building up his flying hours flying with an instructor. He'd previously trained as a pilot in the United States."
Mr Cunliffe refused to give further details citing security reasons.
"I am advised, however, that at no point was there any specific risk to New Zealanders during the man's time in this country."
Mr Cunliffe said the American report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States had said the man lived and trained with Saudi Arabian Hani Hanjour, who is believed to have piloted American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon.
Rayed Abdullah was a leader at the Islamic Cultural Centre in Phoenix and reportedly gave extremist speeches at the mosque, the report said.
It also said another associate of Hanjour, Faisal al Salmi, had flight training with Rayed Abdullah but wanted to keep his training secret.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation said al Salmi was deceptive when he was asked if he had taken flight training at the behest of an organisation.
I am not saying that this man should not have been deported. I have no opinion on that at this time, however, this story from NZPA can be seen to propagate the various myths associated with the 9/11 saga without consideration for the facts that have emerged since the event or even of common sense. It has to be that way, as it is written for people who live in one particular world just as my post here is written for those who live in an alternative world. An alternative world where we do not automatically subscribe to the official line and where we can give credence to such as the following:
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Hani Hanjour: 9/11 Pilot Extraordinaire
From the ridiculous to the sublime...
Federal Aviation Administration records show [Hanjour] obtained a commercial pilot's license in April 1999, but how and where he did so remains a lingering question that FAA officials refuse to discuss. His limited flying abilities do afford an insight into one feature of the attacks: The conspiracy apparently did not include a surplus of skilled pilots. [Cape Cod Times]
[Flight Academy] Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all." [New York Times]
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Hani Hanjour as a Cessna 172 pilot
At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.
However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.
In the spring of 2000, Hanjour had asked to enroll in the CRM Airline Training Center in Scottsdale, Ariz., for advanced training, said the center's attorney, Gerald Chilton Jr. Hanjour had attended the school for three months in late 1996 and again in December 1997 but never finished coursework for a license to fly a single-engine aircraft, Chilton said.
When Hanjour reapplied to the center last year, "We declined to provide training to him because we didn't think he was a good enough student when he was there in 1996 and 1997" Chilton said. [Newsday]
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National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Outline of the 9/11 Plot
[Excerpt]
On December 12, 2000, [Nawaf al Hazmi and Hani Hanjour] were settling in Mesa, Arizona, and Hanjour was ready to brush up on his flight training (Brush up? He could barely fly a Cessna). By early 2001, he was using a Boeing 737 simulator. Because his performance struck his flight instructors as sub-standard, they discouraged Hanjour from continuing, but he persisted.
After wisely investing $40 Hanjour produced the following miraculous results on 9/11:
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Hani Hanjour as a Boeing 757 pilot
At a speed of about 500 miles an hour, the plane was headed straight for what is known as P-56, protected air space 56, which covers the White House and the Capitol.
"The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," says O'Brien. "You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." [NATCA]
But just as the plane seemed to be on a suicide mission into the White House, the unidentified pilot [Hanjour] executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. The plane circled 270 degrees to the right to approach the Pentagon from the west, whereupon Flight 77 fell below radar level, vanishing from controllers' screens, the sources said.
Less than an hour after two other jets demolished the World Trade Center in Manhattan, Flight 77 carved a hole in the nation's defense headquarters, a hole five stories high and 200 feet wide.
Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm, possibly one of the hijackers. Someone even knew how to turn off the transponder, a move that is considerably less than obvious. [Washington Post]
“For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible – there is not one chance in a thousand,” said [ex-commercial pilot Russ] Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727’s to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737’s through 767’s it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying. [LewisNews]
The 9/11 saga has become a complete religion. It has it's own bible (the official story), a saviour and a devil and, of course, many miracles (such as the Hani Hanjour story), even the equivalent of a church physical structure (whitehouse) complete with 'church' hierarchy who know the esoteric truth while disseminating the exoteric to the masses. Their bible is not to be questioned, members must accept all of it, the miracles are to be taken on faith and alternative versions of the saga are just apocryphatic pagan ravings (conspiracy theorists) to be dismissed with scorn....
