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Deano



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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:41 pm    Post Subject: The Secrets of Rosslyn Chapel  

I have been studying the enigma of the cubes mounted up on the walls of Rosslyn Chapel for some years and there is new information. You can find out about the chapel below, which features in the new Da Vinci Code movie.


Here is the Chapels website...

http://www.rosslynchapel.org.uk/


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ROSSLYN Chapel holds many secrets. For hundreds of years experts and visitors alike have puzzled over the carvings in the chapel. Whilst some debate whether they point to hidden treasure, Edinburgh composer Stuart Mitchell thinks he has cracked one part of the enigma.

He believes that the ornate ceiling of carved arches, featuring 213 decorated cubes holds a code for medieval music. His father Thomas Mitchell spent 20 years cracking this code in the ceiling and now Stuart is orchestrating the findings for a new recording called The Rosslyn Motet.


They hope that the music, when played on medieval instruments in situ, will resonate throughout the chapel unlocking a secret in the stone.

The breakthrough to interpreting the notation came when Mitchell's father discovered that the markings carved on the face of the cubes seem to match a phenomenon called Cymatics or Chladni patterns. Chladni patterns form when a sustained note is used to vibrate a sheet of metal covered in powder producing marks. The frequency used dictates the shape of the pattern, for example; the musical note A below middle C vibrates at 440 KHz and produces a shape that looks like a rhombus. Different notes can produce various shapes including flowers, diamonds and hexagons - shapes all present on the Rosslyn cubes. Stuart Mitchell believes this is "beyond coincidence" and has assigned a note to each cube.

Ernst Chladni first documented the phenomenon in the late 18th century - yet it appears to be present in a 15th century building. Which begs the question: "Was Sir William St Clair (the man who built Rosslyn Chapel) familiar with sciences far in advance of his time?".

Stuart Mitchell believes a link between the Knights Templar – who may have gleaned advanced Eastern scientific knowledge during their stay in Jerusalem during the Crusades – and Rosslyn could explain the encoded musical notes.

"The symbolism in Rosslyn is reaching back to times of a civilisation that is lost to us now that had sciences that are the roots of all the mechanics of the universe," says Mitchell.

If this science was used in the carvings at Rosslyn, then there needs to be an explanation of how this information came to be lost for centuries. According to Mitchell, the Church suppressed the knowledge as a means of controlling the public. "What it points towards is the church system denying people certain knowledge because knowledge is awareness. People who knew too much were burnt as witches."

Interestingly the Devil's Chord - diabolus in musica - makes an appearance in the music.

"In the ceiling is this jump of an augmented fourth, in fact it opens up with an augmented fourth," says Mitchell. The Catholic Church had banned this interval (seven semitones) from medieval music as it was believed to be disturbing and therefore diabolical. Perhaps St Clair was indeed challenging the authority of the church.

The music itself, according to Mitchell is a mix "of Celtic melodies and secular worship crossed with a kind of Christian worship" but not Catholic he says. Perhaps this explains why carvings depicting the green man, essentially a pagan image, exist alongside carvings of Christ in the chapel.

"[Orkney] and the Shetlands had a very big druid, pagan community and they had their own culture of music," says Mitchell. "William St Clair was the last Earl of Orkney and some of the melodies in the ceiling of Rosslyn Chapel are Orkney/Shetland Airs."

Mitchell doesn't believe that the notes were carved there simply to record a piece of music. He hopes that the repeated frequencies in the music will resonate within the building and unlock a medieval secret.

"Hopefully, knowing masons of this period of time were aware of the acoustic properties and the effect of resonance upon stone, we're hoping something falls loose… it's like a safe. This is why we think he [St Clair] has gone to so much trouble."

Mitchell has no idea what may be hidden in the church, but believes that St Clair used advanced science to ensure that the music was hidden from prying eyes.

Mitchell, dubbing the project "The Voice of Creation", says the carvings on the cubes are ultimately about sacred geometry.

"What it's saying is we've forgotten more than we know."

Perhaps the music is indeed a key to the past, the physics of the universe and just maybe, played loud enough inside Rosslyn, it will unlock a long lost secret hidden in the masonry.





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The Rosslyn Motet by Thomas.J.Mitchell will be recorded this coming June arranged & conducted by Stuart. Also many Celtic musicians from around Scotland will be bringing their antique instruments and also replica's of renaissance lutes and bagpipes to perform the piece for the first time within Rosslyn chapel for 500 years.

We hope the acoustic qualities of Rosslyn Chapel's design will bring a special and haunting atmosphere to the recording, which we will recorded using authentic Pythagorean tunings of the 15th Century, which was 432kz for concert A until it was changed in 1936 to 440kz.

The text is adapted from Ut Queant Laxis (which is a hymn in honour of St. John the Baptist). The piece also features such ancient instruments as an Organetto and Lowland Bagpipes. It is the most unusual and beautiful combination of sound and melody.

The first movement is called 'The Apprentice Pillar' and the music covers the entire amount of arches and cubes emanating from the top of the pillar. The next movement moves to The Master Mason Pillar and we finally end up singing the music toward the central 'Journeyman's Pillar'.

The sequence of cubes comes alive for the first time in 500 years , to touch the hearts of everyone once again.


http://heritage.scotsman.com/myths.cfm?id=627062006

The Catholic church banned the devils cord...this fascinated me and on looking up about it I found that it appears in in many diverse works by artists such as Wagner, rock bands such as Metallica (Enter Sandman), Black Sabbath, the music to West Side Story, and in quite a bit of Country and Western music strangely.

I hope you found this interesting, Rosslyn Chapel is an important place.
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Carus



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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:02 pm    Post Subject:  

Very interesting Deano. Reminds me of a web site that shows how water is affected by sound, prayer, thoughts, emotion and of course environmental influences. The photographs are very interesting with beautiful shapes shown in the molecular structure of water.

http://www.wellnessgoods.com/messages.asp

Taking all this into consideration, this would translate to all things being affected by sound etc. Does the molecular structure of our bodies change when we listen to relaxing music for example? It seems like it would to me, that's why we feel better when listening to it.
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Deano



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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:41 pm    Post Subject: FREQUENCIES DEMONSTRATION  

Hi Carus,

Also in relation to the sacred geometry of sound I found this video. Salt is poured onto a plate and the frequencies are raised with higher waves producing truly incredible patterns in the salt.

It is called cool salt. From first glimpse the website it is attached too looks like bollocks but dont let that put you off this demo...

http://www.zipped.org/index2.php?&file=cool.salt.wmv&sort=Date&skip=0&show=5
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Carus



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Location: Auckland

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:45 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi Deano,

Interesting video on the salt....some of those sounds are quite ear piercing :shock:

I'm reading a book at the moment which has a small entry about water - headed up Rediscover the Power of Water. The author, P.M.H.Atwater says this:

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The Japanese scientist Masaru Emoto has shown that expressing love or gratitude near or above water will restructure the water molecule to look like a lovely crystal. A similar thing happens when you clean water. But curse or speak harefully, or pollute it, and the water molecule pulls in, clouds and takes on the appearance of a cancer cell. Water like Earth, is alive, intelligent, and possessed of memory and feeling. It responds to care with equal caring; even the quality of thought affects it.


Quite amazing when you consider the implications of how closely connected we are to the elements and nature....It makes more sense of the statement that just one person can make a difference in the world.

Remember about a year ago when we were talking about fluoride? Melody wrote about the Maori Traditional Relationship with Water in the following thread:

https://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?t=279

Maori place a lot of importance on the sacredness of water:

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It noted that, in the traditional Maori world view, water and its use has physical and spiritual importance. In this view "water pollution, no matter how minor, offends the spiritual value of the water body


I'm getting away a bit from your original post about sound, but it all seems connected to me.
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Deano



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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:57 pm    Post Subject:  

The Rosslyn Stave Angel - Music Cipher 4mins 40 seconds

There are 13 geometric patterns carved onto the faces of the ancient cubes in Rosslyn chapel, cymatic patterns produced by pitch and vibration.

A must see video demonstration...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy2Dg-ncWoY
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Carus



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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:39 pm    Post Subject:  

Interesting video Deano :)
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secondfield



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:11 pm    Post Subject:  

Listen to the intro to 'purple haze' by Jimi Hendrix.

Its that interval that kicked off true rock music in the sixties.

Enough power to unlock your soul :P
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steve clougher



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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:52 pm    Post Subject:  

just finished a book last night, called

The Hunt for Zero Point, by Nick Cook

he is alleged to be a veteran reporter for Jane's Weekly, the doyen of military equipment info

the book may be excellent fiction, or not, but it has very interesting stuff on Nazi and SS advanced weaponry research, on Victor Schauberger and his work on various esoteric projects, under duress, in WW2, the Hutchison Effect, and insights into lots of events and people connected with the general field of UFOlogy, the dominance of a secret elite, and censored history

Schauberger was a proven genius, as witnessed by the success of his practical projects, but his genius was based in a passionate appreciation of Nature.......this is how he thought of water:

"(he had) developed a passionate set of theories about the essential characteristics of air and water as living,energising media and that he viewedNature as a complex interaction of forces that constantly created or re-invigorated matter---against the orthodox view that matter is in a natural state of decay" (only subject to entropy, not to intelligent organising influences also)

"In regulating the movement of water via dams and irrigation schemes,man had obstructed the complex, vortex flow patterns that water naturally adopted for itself, Victor Schauberger said, causing widespread degeneration and decay in the ecosystem. Harnessed in this unnatural state, water, he came to believe, acted as a pollutant upon the earth, not a life-force"

(quoted almost verbatim from "the Hunt for Zero Point)

personally, i feel this to be an extreme expression, of a thesis that i agree with essentially........i think there is room for small-scale, sensitive manipulation of waterways

the key to finding the limits , i believe, is in integrating thought, feeling(passion!) and intuition, never relying on cold calculation alone

probably, if we take ourselves outside the city limits, and into real pristine wilderness, often enough, our perceptions may become attuned to the awesome wisdom that has created this place, and maintains it daily

then maybe we can moderate our own contribution, to be wiser than it presently is ?

Hey, when the pope arrived in Australia yesterday, he came into an airforce base ! i wonder if he had a squadron of black helicopters protecting him, like george did ? i hope they checked his carry-on bag for deadly weapons like nail-scissors
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joan



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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:37 pm    Post Subject: Sound vibrations  

In relation to the significance of sound vibration, the NZ Herald recently published an interesting article quoting the damaging effect that rock concerts have on valuable artworks.

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Russian researchers have warned that sound vibrations from rock concerts staged in the grounds of country homes are damaging works of art.

Examining how concerts by the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney and others in the adjacent Winter Square have affected their collections over the past 3 years, researchers at the State Hermitage Museum in St. Petersburg have come to the conclusion that every 10 concerts above 82 decibels add an extra year to the age of a work.

The Grabar Art Restoration Institute in Moscow is examining the preliminary findings of the three year study.

Mikhail Piotrovsky, director of the Hermitage, insists that institutions across the world should be warned that high levels of sounds could shave years off an artefact.

"Early results say the level of sound in the rooms which look over Winter Square cannot be more than 80/82 decibels. We are going to study this. I think it is a serious issue, not just for Russia."

He recalled that he had entered into an agreement with the Rolling Stones to keep the noise down during their concert in Winter Square last year, to protect the 19th and 20th century works by the likes of Cezanne and Matisse housed in the palace's adjacent wings. He even revealed that he was distressed when Sir Paul McCartney's concert in 2004 shook the window of the museum.

Ernst Vegelin, head of the Courtauld Gallery in London, said that he would be taking a close interest in the Hermitage's work.

"We have double-glazing here and sound doesn't register in the buildings, but it will certainly be interesting to see the research. Vibration isn't good"
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secondfield



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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:18 pm    Post Subject:  

I often wondered why I felt so alive and good after seeing a loud concert ... the music is anithestis to stasis. Or the anti of being static. Jiggle those molecules baby ... :P
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steve clougher



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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:48 pm    Post Subject:  

clearly , secondhand, you are not an oilpainting
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Deano



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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:27 pm    Post Subject:  

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He even revealed that he was distressed when Sir Paul McCartney's concert in 2004 shook the window of the museum.


LOL!! How traumatic for him! :-({|= :-({|= :-({|=
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steve clougher



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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:28 pm    Post Subject:  

love those violins, Deano, where'd you find them?

looks like those artists have to get to work, start replacing the good stuff Cezanne and Mattisse produced

why don't rockconcerts issue noise-cancelling headphones? to be collected after the concert? like air new zealand?

any oilpainting nearby would only see a bunch of molecules dancing in a silent rhythm, no harm done (no harmony overdone)
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