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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:09 pm Post Subject: Bird Flu - Another perspective
A local community newsletter I read recently featured an article - How to Prevent Viral Infections – and avoid Bird Flu.
The article led me onto a web site which was noted as a reference to where the article came from. Another article here Bird Flu or Cash Cow? - The Pandemic Some Want to Have revealed some very good information.
I recalled the time I’d flown to South America to give a presentation at an international Human Rights conference. A few months previously, on March 4th 2003 the first person had been diagnosed with SARS, a brand new disease. It was Professor Liu Jianlun, a microbiologist working in a laboratory involved in secret, government-sponsored work in China's Guangdong province. (1) Incredibly, he had also been “researching” the H5N1 virus, now known as the “Bird Flu”. This was closely followed by two other deaths; a Singaporean researcher working in a laboratory of the Singapore Environmental Health Institute and a post doctoral student working on West Nile virus. Singaporean Health Minister Mr. Balaji Sadasivan, stated that the researcher's exposure to the SARS virus "is most likely linked to that laboratory ... where the SARS virus is [also] cultured," (2) It made me wonder just how many bio-hazard labs were in operation and what other new germs they were engineering.
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Prior to 1997, the wild bird flu was a rare and relatively mild virus affecting only birds. The first case of bird flu affecting a human appeared in Asia in 1997. Apparently the wild virus had mysteriously changed to H5N1 strain, a variety that could very rarely affect humans when ingesting infected meat or in very close contact with birds. The “high path” H5N1 strain appeared suddenly and has been known to be located in many bio-hazard labs around the world.
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Dr. Len Horowitz, US independent public health expert writes; ‘According to USA Today (October 9, 2005), “European health officials are working to contain the [avian flu] virus, which so far has not infected anyone in the region.” Although, allegedly “more than 140 million birds have died or been destroyed, . . . and financial losses to the poultry sector have topped $10 billion.” This propaganda actually admits, “the current virus, known as H5N1, has not yet mutated to the point at which it can easily spread from person to person.” In fact, it is likely to have never spread from person to person other than during laboratory handling!’ He further states: “In not a single case has human-to-human communicability been confirmed. So long as that remains the case, there is no bird flu threat to the human population of places such as Vietnam, much less the United States.”
DR. Nancy Cox, Chief, Influenza Branch, CDC (Centers for Disease Control) has said during a February 2004 news conference, “ …As you've already heard, avian influenza viruses usually do not infect humans.“ Meanwhile, the prestigious British Medical Journal editorial October 2005 Quotes; “The lack of sustained human-to-human transmission suggests that this H5N1 avian virus does not currently have the capacity to cause a human pandemic”. Despite the scientific evidence to the contrary, US and global health officials insist on calling the bird flu a human pandemic. A UN spokesman David Nabarro said in late 2005; “5 million to 150 million people "could" be killed "if" the virus mutated and jumped to humans. “ While Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt, said in the US Senate; ‘If it isn’t the current H5N1 virus that leads to an influenza pandemic, at some point in our nation’s future, another virus will.”
I see from a search on the Internet there are now reports coming out of a couple of cases of human to human transmissions in Vietnam but it isn’t very adequate testing as far as I can tell....More from Bird Flu or Cash Cow? - The Pandemic Some Want to Have:
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Without a sign of a human epidemic, on October 28, 2005 the US Senate passed an $8 billion emergency bill to fund research, drugs and vaccines, based on no scientific evidence that bird flu constitutes a significant human threat and overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The administration is seeking an additional $6 billion to $10 billion from US taxpayers, according to a current Business Week report. "President Bush this week asked the leaders of the world's top vaccine manufacturers - Chiron, Sanofi-Aventis, Wyeth, GlaxoSmithKline and Merck - to come to the White House on Friday to discuss preparations for pandemic flu," reports the New York Times in October. Meanwhile taxpayer billions will also flow into the coffers of selected pharmaceutical giants such as Roche, which holds the sole license to manufacture Tamiflu, an anti viral drug that is meant only for reducing the symptoms of the seasonal influenza and has never been tested for use for the bird flu. Thousands of Americans are lining up for their dose when there has not been a single case of H5N1bird flu in the US. Without a single human case of H5N1, Tamiflu is in such demand that a new US factory is being planned to ensure there is more of the drug available by the 2006 flu season.
For something being touted as an epidemic which means “widespread occurance of a disease”, there is an inproportional amount of media awareness directed towards it when there is a higher occurance of death by other diseases world wide than this one eg. Hepatis B – 2 billion people annually.
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Meanwhile President Bush is discussing the use of the military to enforce quarantine of suspected bird flu carriers. The US plans to install a new quarantine station at Logan International Airport to diagnose travelers. Preliminary discussions include plans to impose 10 year jail terms on people who breach orders to stay at home, in hospital or within their city during an influenza outbreak. This has resulted in heavy opposition among independent thinkers. The Boston Globe quotes on October 8, 2005, “On Tuesday, the president suggested that the United States should confront the risk of a bird flu pandemic by giving him the power to use the US military to quarantine ''part[s] of the country" experiencing an ''outbreak." So we have moved quickly in the past month, at least metaphorically, from the global war on terror to a proposed war on hurricanes, to a proposed war on the bird flu.” (14)
Quotes an editorial on Freemarketnews.com: “President Bush's recent remarks about mandating vaccinations for avian flu is further evidence of the militarization of public health care and would also seem to reflect a dangerous misunderstanding about disease and palliative methodologies.” Many qualified doctors would agree, including Dr. Lorraine Day MD who states; “It is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to get sick if your immune system is functioning properly”.
Also referenced on the community newsletter was this article about virus and how the body fights them. Around the time of the 1918 Spanish Flu, Aspirin had been developed and used in the market as a medicine for alleviation of fevers. It would seem there was little understanding at that time of the body’s natural defence system and many people used Aspirin to stop fevers which resulted in death a few days later.
The primary defense which the human body has, to stop the spread of viral infections is to produce a fever. The fever is not a symptom of disease, but is actually the body's primary anti-viral immune system. The fever stops the telomeres on the ends of viral RNA from making copies of itself.
The telomeres are like a zipper which unzips and separates the new RNA copy within miliseconds, but the telomeres are temperature sensitive and won't unzip at temperatures above 101F. Thus the high temperature of the fever, stops the flu virus from dividing and spreading. It is an immune system response which only mammals have developed to prevent the spread of viral flu infections, which mostly 99% come from the more ancient dinosaur-like earth life forms called birds. Almost all influenza is a form of "Avian Flu." A few influenza forms come from other dinosaur-like life forms, the modern reptiles, but these are usually classified as very rare tropical diseases, since that is where most reptiles live.
The author of Bird Flu or Cash Cow? - The Pandemic Some Want to Have, Eve Hillary has a website http://www.evehillary.org/. On it she talks about Codex, which is somewhat new to me but mentioned by others before on this forum. Very much a hot topic for natural health practitioners etc. she describes it well here:
What is CODEX? (34) In short it is an annual World Health Organisation (WHO) sponsored gathering of delegates in Europe, many of them trans-national pharmaceutical corporations who are primarily focused on increasing their market share, by pushing their desired and arbitrary regulatory “standards” into a global standard and forcing it onto the smaller local supplement industry, all in the name of “international regulatory excellence”. The Codex Committee is also bound by the World Trade Organisation (WTO) treaties. The WTO is a global commercial police that ensures countries are required to purchase from trans-national corporations in favour of their own locally produced goods, in the name of “lowering trade barriers”. This WHO/WTO joint effort called CODEX is in the process of wiping out local supplement companies and natural health care practices, to bring in more drug based medicine, in what is euphemistically known as “creating a level playing field”, while primarily giving the public a misleading impression that someone in the World Health Organisation (WTO) is looking after its health and safety. CODEX recommendations are then adopted by regulators such as the Australian TGA or the US FDA by various direct or indirect means that end up as Acts and amendments that are passed into law by Parliaments or Congress, usually without public debate.
I go on to find that our own Annette King has already made some commitment on NZ’s behalf to the Australian TGA.
Despite strong opposition from industry and a Parliamentary Select Committee report against the proposal, Annette King signed the Treaty with Australia on 10 December last year.
And it seems it was done in the face of opposition from all the major NZ political parties. http://www.choices.org.nz/
This is the woman who implemented the $200 million meningococcal vaccination program in schools across NZ last year!
I hate to think what else she and her associates have got up their sleeves for us down the track.
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I found it very interesting and got me thinking about his further than I have before.
Seems like another great excuse to ramp up or keep the US military and pharmaceutical industries moving full steam ahead.
I see more powers will be granted
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enforce quarantine of suspected bird flu carriers
But further down in your post I find
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I go on to find that our own Annette King has already made some commitment on NZ’s behalf to the Australian TGA.
It is clear our government is up to something
So we can't sit back and think "We are far away from this so it won’t affect us".
This is from one of the links above, first sentence
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Without public knowledge or debate the Australian Government has initiated steps to force the natural health industry under the control of multi-national drug corporations. Autralians and New Zealanders will lose the right to choose Natural health care if the Australian Government's secret legislation is not stopped
Sometimes I read this and I cant believe what I am seeing with my own eyes, but there it is :!:
Yes, what you say in your comments are true. It's sounding less and less of a democracy here and more so in Australia. It looks like we are well and truly being pulled into a pacific loop of global unification.
People need to become more clearly aware of these things that are happening so they can start exercising greater choice now.
There is a form on the web site http://nzhealthtrust.co.nz/urgent_support.php where you can register your support for natural health products and services. It will be shown to NZ MP's as a no to the TGA (Therapeutic Goods Amendment Bill of 2005) proposal.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:17 am Post Subject:
carus,
excellent post! very informative and compelling.
info4,
good dialog.
my thoughts exactly on the bird flu. all about control. right out of the illuminati handbook: problem(s). reaction(s). solution(s).
in 1990, the H5N1 virus antibodies were found in about a million chinese people. the next step is to test for these antibodies in western countries to further gild the lilly:
Mmmm...good little article there Hiero. They make a good point.
As quoted from CBS New York:
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Researchers said Wednesday they have developed a new test that can detect bird flu in humans within hours, compared with up to a week or more for older versions.
The new test detects antigens and antibodies to the deadly H5N1 bird flu strain, as opposed to examining the virus directly by isolating it.
Traditionally, in the overwhelming number of cases of human illness of all kinds, the presence of antibodies has meant: THE BODY CONTACTED THE GERM AND SUCCESSFULLY DROVE IT AWAY.
The presence of antibodies says nothing about the possibility or probability that a person will get sick. Nothing.
Antigens, which are molecules that are assumed to be products of germs, are merely another clue that a germ is present. If the immune system is functioning well, the germ will probably be driven off.
So, all in all, this new test will do one thing: IT WILL FALSELY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAID TO HAVE BIRD FLU.
I was listening to Radio NZ yesterday morning and got to hear an interview by Linda Clark with a European correspondent who just happened to report about the bird flu among other things. His first response was rather tongue in cheek - "Oh yes another duck died and it's headline news.."
It's actually quite a concern just the birds themselves getting the virus as people don't want to eat poultry etc. This is having a major impact on France who are the biggest poultry producer in Europe and their markets could drop quite considerably.
I have found a good little NZ web site, http://www.healthcharter.org.nz/, if anyone is interested in keeping an eye on developments in the health industry.
Their newsletters have some very good information. They had this to say about the bird flu:
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The alternative therapists have been exposing the Bird Flu conspirators and trying valiantly to prevent them from succeeding in their evil designs for more than two years. Some well-known dissenting scientists have openly questioned the motives of the US and a few other western governments and organizations crying hoarse about the impending Bird Flu Pandemic.
Scientists like Dr. Len Horowitz and Jonathan Campbell are right in suspecting that the US Government and the Big Pharma Cartel have been deliberately creating a world-wide panic about the impending Bird Flu Epidemic, which is falsely predicted. How can they predict that most of the people will get the new Bird Flu and not the ordinary old-type flu? They want to scare all the people of the world to such an extent that the new Bird Flu vaccines worth billions of dollars could be sold by the Big Pharma Cartel to the terrified people.
Has the Big Pharma Cartel deliberately started using toxic vaccines and drugs to actually trigger the Bird Flu Pandemic as claimed by many dissenting scientists and by many dissenting journalists? Along with Dr. Len Horowitz and Jonathan Campbell, the other whistle-blowing scientists like Tim O'Shea, Jon Rappoport, Chris Gupta, Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger, Christopher Barr, Greg Ciola and John Hammell have also exposed this great racket of the Big Pharma Cartel in promoting not just their vaccines, but also in causing the spread of a new type of flu.
This link takes you to the full article on the newsletter:
Some interesting points from an article at Live science talks about the bird flu and why it isn't spreading to humans at this time:
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More than 100 people have died from infection with the avian flu virus, but so far it can't hop from person to person. That's why there has been no global outbreak among humans.
Scientists are not quite sure why the virus, called H5N1, has yet to morph into a strain that can be transmitted between humans. One study found that the avian strain can't bind to human cells. Another study, released last week, suggested one key mutation is all that is keeping the avian flu out of the human population.
Now two independent research teams have revealed that bird flu virus can bind to human lung cells, but it attaches too deep in the respiratory tract to be coughed up and spread.
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Although millions of poultry in Asia have been infected with the H5N1 virus, there have been fewer than 200 confirmed human infections.
"However, in the rare cases that human infection has occurred, the fatality rate is high, and the primary lesion is pneumonia," Science study co-author Thijs Kuiken of the Erasmus Medical Center in the Netherlands told LiveScience.
Pneumonia is an infection or inflammation of the lungs. It can be caused by bacteria, viruses, fungi, and other microorganisms. Because the H5N1 virus targets cells responsible for repairing damage to the lung lining, seeping wounds are slow to heal.
Viral pneumonia is generally not very serious to healthy adults, but it can be deadly for very young and very old patients as well as those with impaired immune systems.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:58 pm Post Subject:
from the Washington Times
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CDC scientists inside an ultra-secure laboratory have started swapping the genes of the H5N1 avian virus with the genes of an H3N2 virus, the strain behind most recent human flu outbreaks.
The goal is to substitute the eight genes of each virus, one by one, with the eight genes from the other virus to see which of more than 250 possible combinations create flu viruses that could spread easily among humans.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:43 pm Post Subject: Health Amendment Act 2006
There was an interview/discussion about issues surrounding the Health Amendment Act 2006 on Sunday 28 Jan 2007, National Radio, Sunday Morning with Chris Laidlaw: http://www.radionz.co.nz/nr/programmes/sunday
11:10am Ideas: The Health Amendment Act 2006 puts the issue of contagious diseases and public health on a new footing.
These links will only show these pages and pods for a short while (this week). After about Saturday 3 Feb 2007 you will have to trawl the archive a bit.)
That interview was very interesting. One thing said was that when there have been other pandemics in the past people would be more proactive in their communities by helping neighbours etc if required. This was a great help in allleviating the problem of care and recovery. These days people tend not to know their neighbours and live very separate lives. Would this also make quarantining more acceptable today to people I wonder...
