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smashdracs



Joined: 23 Nov 2005
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Location: Wellington NZ

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:14 pm    Post Subject: Discussions on Bruce Cathie  

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Change of subject, a friend has been working on overlaying the harmonic grid over a medium sized scale map of the lower north Island as per Bruce Cathie's research.
Several things have come to our attention regarding Aerial and radar sites geometrical positions and relationships to each other.

The main corridoor that sees the heaviest persistant contrail manifestation appears to run along a main grid line west of wellington and the lower north island.
Another interesting point was that all the large radar and transmittor sites are positioned at precise distances and form consistantly angled isoceles triangles when you rule lines over the map.

There was a particular angle in each corner of the triangles that was 208deg if I remember correctly. Everything we have checked relating to aerial sites so far shows an interesting little bunch of numbers.

My friend also pointed out that the area of the main Trail corridoor west of here appears to have a relationship with 208deg in relation to its position lined up mathematically with Gokona Alaska. He did point out to me that the whole thing needs to be redrawn onto a larger topographical map of the same area, and the maths needs to be thoroughly checked so that we can do some more accurate investigation.

Lucky for unmathematical me, my mate is a ham radio and electronics brain and served 10 years in the army doing stuff like that, and it actually doesnt look too difficult to figure out and understand, you need a good scale map of your area, a compass and those triangular rulers...lol and the math equations out of B Cathie's books.

Anyway, I only had about 30 minutes to look over the map my friend has done, and he gave me a quick rundown on how it is done, but my interest is sparked bigtime! And I will get him to share this stuff so if you are interested you can have a go at it too if I havent already made it sound too weird or difficult!


If you live in Wellington, the Second hand bookshop next to the crystal shop is closing down and everything is half price! I scored a mint copy of Trevor James Constables cosmic pulse of life for $10! And some excellent mineral and gemstone encyclopedias cheap. Im going to stop writing now because Im a wee bit concussed from the mosh pit at the secret Shihad gig on Tues nite and this post was hard work....

RE the map and the grid, Ive had a better look at the map, and my mate better explained what he was doing when he drew it up.
It is based on the research of Bruce Cathie, who was an Air NZ pilot back in the 50s-60s who became deeply interested in the UFO phenomena after a sighting he had.
He basically used his map reading and navigational skills to plot various UFO sightings including his own on a scale map of NZ to see what might turn up.

Alot of his research was published in the books Harmonic 33 and Harmonic 695 as well as other books. He basically states that most if not all UFO sightings happen along a set series of lines, much like Laylines.
These lines criss cross all over the entire planet and points where many of these lines intersect tend to be UFO hotspots, or big aerial and transmittor sites or military bases etc. UFOS are frequently seen travelling along the same flight paths that Cathie demonstrates correspond with the harmonic grid as he calls it.
He speculates that the grid can be tapped for unlimited energy supply and can be used to harness anti gravity propulsion.

We have witnessed that many of our jets that fly over or near us leaving chemtrails seem to be flying along 2 of these major gridlines running north and south right near us. One is to the west of wellington, and one cuts right through the Hutt, Harbour and on south through Mount Victoria. Seldom do the spray jets fly outside of these paths.

This is all speculation, but very interesting and may be a clue to the frequent sightings of anomolous craft associated with chemtrails. It seems to us that there may very definately be a relationship between the chemtrail phenomena and B Cathies Harmonic Grid

You will need to read Harmonic 33 and harmonic 695 by Bruce Cathie if you are to even have the slightest bit of knowledge about what Im trying to say here..... so I understand it probably sounds like quackery to most of you.

If you have a read of the suggested books, Im sure you will agree that there is something in this.
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smashdracs



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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:27 pm    Post Subject:  

This thread is a one man band at the moment lol!

Did I lose you all on this?

It isnt an easy topic to accurately explain in a forum thread!

Have any of you even heard of Bruce Cathie before????????




All that aside, clear blue skies over and around Wellington today :D
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smashdracs



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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:43 pm    Post Subject:  

ok heres something copied from the gridpoint website....

Forty years ago, Captain Cathie began his investigation into the world
electromagnetic grid system. His initial interest was sparked by a sighting of an
unidentified flying object over one of the local harbours in Auckland, New Zealand.
He was immediately aware that there were machines, other than normally-known
aircraft, moving through our airspace, which appeared to be more highly advanced
technically than our own.

As time went on, it became known to him that many other fellow pilots and radar operators around New Zealand were also sighting similar machines which were carrying out manouvres and flying at speeds that exceeded the capabilities of all known types of aircraft. It became obvious that either our own scientists had very advanced secret knowledge or we were possibly being visited by highly advanced beings from outer space. Later, as more information was received, it appeared that both these answers were possible.

The captain commenced his own research project and plotted sighting positions onto an airways map which covered the New Zealand area and eventually discovered that a definite pattern emerged which indicated that the unknowns were under intelligent control. Several years later a complex geometric grid system was completed which covered the whole world surface. The patterns were eventually broken down into mathematical and geometric coordinates which could then be directly related to gravity, light speeds and the earth's magnetic fields. From that point on the research developed at a faster pace and culminated in a series of unified equations and sets of unified tables which could be related to all branches of scientific research.

A major breakthrough occured when it was discovered that the mathematical base, which was harmonic in nature, could be related to the detonation of atomic devices. This fact indicated that all atomic activity was geometric in nature and that an all out atomic war was illogical. All detonation times and places could be pre-calculated by both sides in this type of war which virtually meant stalemate. It was after this fact was made known, that the research activity of Captain Cathie became noticed by certain governments and intelligence agencies. Tests were made of the knowledge held and the harmonic mathematical theories were then admitted to being correct
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Hieronymous Bosch



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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:44 pm    Post Subject:  

smashdracs wrote:

A major breakthrough occured when it was discovered that the mathematical base, which was harmonic in nature, could be related to the detonation of atomic devices. This fact indicated that all atomic activity was geometric in nature and that an all out atomic war was illogical. All detonation times and places could be pre-calculated by both sides in this type of war which virtually meant stalemate. It was after this fact was made known, that the research activity of Captain Cathie became noticed by certain governments and intelligence agencies. Tests were made of the knowledge held and the harmonic mathematical theories were then admitted to being correct


hmm.. what exactly does that mean? i have not heard of this research, nor visited this website, but the following statements taken prima facie, are ludicrous:

all atomic activity is geometric in nature?? ----> atomic war is illogical???
all detonation times and places could be precalculated?? ---> stalemate??

gridlines/ley lines.. ok. magnetosphere, ok. 208 degree angles in triangles? if i remember my trigonometry correctly , the sum of all of the angles is 180 degrees. even if it is hyperbolic (non-euclidean) the sum should never exceed 180 degrees, and can be sometimes less. so, there is something wrong there.

as far as haarp or scalar interferometry, apparently what is needed is an overlay grid for the longitudinal em waves to hit targetted areas. interference patterns can be sent to anywhere from anywhere... yet, this grid is artificial.. the soviets created it, and it's called the woodpecker grid. many ham radio operators know all about this. this grid has been operational since 1976.

so, maybe occam's razor applies here.. the simplest explanation is probably the best one..

why is west wellington/marlborogh nelson sprayed so much? i'd say the simple reason is that this area is of strategic importance to the us dod/darpa (ok.. managed by the nz gcsb). there are a number of facilities concentrated in this area in nz that may have the technology and the expertise to run some of the clover-leaf experiments with these aerosols.. and their interaction with scalar waves, haarp, or other transmitted em energies from these known us controlled dod/darpa/navy bases: waihopai (blenheim) and tangimoana (levin).

the greens are only scratching the surface of this issue. the embarrassment over the lange memo release forced them to do something, but it really is just lip service and posturing. these bases are here to stay... forever.. or until we are surfing the apocalyse, rather than the breaks at raglan.

the illuminati and freemasons are into these ley lines big time.. until i read a better, more scientific treatise on what exactly constitutes a ley line, i remain a skeptic as to their "ancient mystery" appeal. rather, the schumann resonance may apply here. the earth interacts with the ionospher to provide a waveguide for elf energies.. these energies are of extreme interest to the weatherwar and space weapons / murder industries.. called the military industrial complex.

occam's razor in this case. look to what we have always done.. create chaos.. weapons of mass destruction, and control. look at the atmosphere... you and i see a pretty blue sky (or we did more often year ago :).. and the weapon demons see an ionically charged plasma.. a great capacitor of great use in weather manipulation.. and star wars.. especially particle beam and scalar weaponry. imho, that's what all these chemtrials are about.. occasionally, when the military needs a few mole rats to test on.. they add some biologicals to the mix.. probably in cahoots with big medicine.. pharmaceuticals and the rocketsmellers. keep us running for more.. convenient way to keep immune systems down too... just in case that ol' stockpile of weaponized viruses, measles and black death needs an airing to keep the mole rat population under control.. freeing up more of those pesky resources for the elite.
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smashdracs



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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:39 pm    Post Subject:  

As I think I already said, Im not explaining it very clearly, the best place to begin with Cathies research is his book Harmonic 33.

It is astounding how few people have heard of Bruce Cathie.

Upon reading what he has to say, and seeing the documentation he provides in his books it becomes much clearer.

I was sticking my neck out with this one admitedly, but only because I really think it has relevance.
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John Anderson



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Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:46 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi Smashdracs,

Quote:
Have any of you even heard of Bruce Cathie before????????


Yes indeed, since the release of his first book, Harmonic 33. You may be interested to know that Bruce Cathie lives a few minutes from our home here in West Auckland. He is on our list of interesting people to interview for Myst NZ when the main structure of this site is created later this year. I can understand Hiero's ambivalence towards his concepts, some of them are a bit hard to swallow, but he is highly regarded around the world and many people give his ideas credence. We are also interested in the work of Martin Doutré ( http://www.celticnz.co.nz/ ) and keen to know if the many ancient astronomical observatories dotted around NZ also fit Cathie’s grid. Lots of good stuff to explore. :D
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smashdracs



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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:59 pm    Post Subject:  

Phew!! I was beginning to really feel like the fool there!

Bring on Bruce Cathie, he is an unknown NZ treasure "imho".
Wow, I cant think of anyone who I would more like to see contribute to this project. The Harmonic grid books are some of the most insightful and logical books I have ever read on the whole UFO mystery, honestly they are classics. The only guy I rate as highly is Trevor James Constable, who also should be pursued for an interview....actually one interview could not pssibly do justice to the knowledge these guys have.

Another book I whole-heartedly recommend is The Cosmic Pulse Of Life by New Zealand born Trevor James Constable, whose website http://www.rainengineering.com/ is a must see.

Back to the harmonic grid, Does anyone know where I can purchase proper Topographical maps of NZ? We are searching and cant find anywhere to buy them. We cant do an accurate grid map without them :(
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John Anderson



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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:16 am    Post Subject:  

Hi Smashdracs,

Quote:
Phew!! I was beginning to really feel like the fool there!


You are certainly not a fool. :D Bruce Cathie is just one of a number of 'national treasures' we have our Myst NZ eye on...

Thanks for the tip on Trevor James Constable, I just googled him - wow, very interesting!

Quote:
Does anyone know where I can purchase proper Topographical maps of NZ? We are searching and cant find anywhere to buy them. We cant do an accurate grid map without them




We usually get ours from tramping equipment shops, stockists should have a master directory from which they can order any map they don't have in stock. .

Land Information New Zealand (LINZ) are responsible for topographical info in New Zealand and have all the info you could possibly need here:

http://www.linz.govt.nz/rcs/linz/pub/web/root/core/Topography/topographicmaps/index.jsp

...including a list of some map retailers:

http://www.linz.govt.nz/rcs/linz/pub/web/root/core/Topography/TopographicMaps/purchasingpapermaps/index.jsp

Of course there are also digital maps and LINZ can supply these and also have some free downloads...

Tumonz are another supplier of digital maps: http://www.tumonz.co.nz/index.php

Hope this is helpful
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Hieronymous Bosch



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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:42 am    Post Subject:  

folks,
my mind is totally open to bruce cathie's research. as indicated, i have yet to read any of it. i will look at the harmonic 33 stuff. i'm just not too "into" the ley line concepts. on the surface, it appears to be pseudoscience. the trigonometry may need some better explaining too. global nuclear war is not illogical due to geometry. it is just impractical due to the concept of mutually assured destruction. yet, scalar weaponry and star wars unfortunately seems to be the next best bluff in the poker game: "i'll see your nuclear weapons, and raise you with tesla-based technologies... your turn."

cheers-
-hiero
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John Anderson



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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:58 am    Post Subject:  

Hi Hiero,

This might be a better book to read than Harmonic 33 as it seems to be more up to date, though I'm not sure when it was published...



Some info from the book:

Quote:
AUTHORS NOTE
THIS BOOK IS A REVISED COMBINATION OF MY
second and third books, "Harmonic 695, the UFO and Antigravity"
and, "The Pulse of the Universe, Harmonic 288".
The contents have been up-dated in relation to my present Knowledge.
To do this I have deleted a small amount of material which I now
believe to be inaccurate, or covered in a more comprehensible form
in my later works; corrected, or added, material necessary to explain
my theories as clearly as possible.
I realise that I cannot be one hundred percent correct at all times
in my speculations, but if some progress is being made in new
concepts, then I am more than satisfied. A fantastic future awaits
us if we can unravel the secrets underlying the basic structure of
the universe.

CONTENTS
Preface.................................... xi
Definition of Terms........................... xii
Introduction................................ xiv
1. The Branching Areas for Investigation......... 1
2. Mathematics of the World Grid............... 15
3. The Unified Equations...................... 33
4. Further Evidence of the UFO Grid............ 43
5. The Mysterious Aerials..................... 49
6. Scientists and the UFOs..................... 57
7. Mathematical Values of Interest............... 69
8. The Earth's Magnetic Field.................. 80
9. Pythagoras and the Grid.................... 85
10. The Maps of the Ancients................... 89
11. Russians and Germans Discover a World
Grid System............................. 92
12. Tesla — The Forgotten Genius................ 98
13. Space Communication......................117
14. Where Have All The Flyers Gone..............123
15. People We Would Like to Know More About......131
16. The Secret of Life.........................141
17. The Harmonics of Humans...................159
18. Builders in Stone.........................164
19. From Alpha to Omega......................174
20. There is Something in the Air................183
21. Ooparts and Oopths........................197
22. Spaceship or Survey Peg?...................204
23. Ruapehu Erupts..........................210
24. The Australian Stonehenge..................213
25. The Organization of a Miracle................223
26. The Diminutive Man of Mystery...............232
27. Bits and Pieces...........................239
28. Coincidental Pattern of Oil Wells..............244
29. Wake Up Earth...........................247
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Hieronymous Bosch



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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:33 pm    Post Subject:  

John Anderson wrote:
Hi Hiero,

This might be a better book to read than Harmonic 33 as it seems to be more up to date, though I'm not sure when it was published...



Some info from the book:

Quote:
AUTHORS NOTE
THIS BOOK IS A REVISED COMBINATION OF MY
second and third books, "Harmonic 695, the UFO and Antigravity"
and, "The Pulse of the Universe, Harmonic 288".
The contents have been up-dated in relation to my present Knowledge.
To do this I have deleted a small amount of material which I now
believe to be inaccurate, or covered in a more comprehensible form
in my later works; corrected, or added, material necessary to explain
my theories as clearly as possible.
I realise that I cannot be one hundred percent correct at all times
in my speculations, but if some progress is being made in new
concepts, then I am more than satisfied. A fantastic future awaits
us if we can unravel the secrets underlying the basic structure of
the universe.

CONTENTS
Preface.................................... xi
Definition of Terms........................... xii
Introduction................................ xiv
1. The Branching Areas for Investigation......... 1
2. Mathematics of the World Grid............... 15
3. The Unified Equations...................... 33
4. Further Evidence of the UFO Grid............ 43
5. The Mysterious Aerials..................... 49
6. Scientists and the UFOs..................... 57
7. Mathematical Values of Interest............... 69
8. The Earth's Magnetic Field.................. 80
9. Pythagoras and the Grid.................... 85
10. The Maps of the Ancients................... 89
11. Russians and Germans Discover a World
Grid System............................. 92
12. Tesla — The Forgotten Genius................ 98
13. Space Communication......................117
14. Where Have All The Flyers Gone..............123
15. People We Would Like to Know More About......131
16. The Secret of Life.........................141
17. The Harmonics of Humans...................159
18. Builders in Stone.........................164
19. From Alpha to Omega......................174
20. There is Something in the Air................183
21. Ooparts and Oopths........................197
22. Spaceship or Survey Peg?...................204
23. Ruapehu Erupts..........................210
24. The Australian Stonehenge..................213
25. The Organization of a Miracle................223
26. The Diminutive Man of Mystery...............232
27. Bits and Pieces...........................239
28. Coincidental Pattern of Oil Wells..............244
29. Wake Up Earth...........................247


hey thanks john,
appreciate the effort to include the table of contents..this one haspiqued my curiosity!

cheers-
-hiero
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smashdracs



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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:22 pm    Post Subject:  

I found a map shop, and bought a reasonable 1:50,000 topo map of the Wellington region.
I need to go back and enquire about big ones like they have at the civic library.

The map I have is pretty good, and only cost $12.20. They had maps of every region in the same size.
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Hieronymous Bosch



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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:10 pm    Post Subject:  

smashdracs wrote:
I found a map shop, and bought a reasonable 1:50,000 topo map of the Wellington region.
I need to go back and enquire about big ones like they have at the civic library.

The map I have is pretty good, and only cost $12.20. They had maps of every region in the same size.


smash,
i'm awaiting the book "the energy grid" by bruce cathie.. the 1997 paperback (used) off amazon.com for some $US 4.50.

have you seen this software? may make your wellington grid project substantially easier :wink:

http://www.worldgrid.net/Software/Gridpoint.htm
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John Anderson



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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:20 pm    Post Subject:  

Hiero, excellent link, hadn't seen that site. Phew, US$235.00 – the software is not cheap!

Interesting to see Cathie’s grid superimposed over Auckland, especially of interest to us that it passes through Nihotupu. Now Nihotupu does not exist as such, its conventional name is Waiatarua, the name was changed arbitrarily around 1967 by the Geographic board, though no boundary limits were ever defined. Bruce Cathie himself lives on what some locals regard as the border of Waiatarua, though his address is Oratia. The reason I mention Nihotupu/Waiatarua is that Mel and I lived in the area for about 11 years. In one of the houses we lived in we had many strange experiences, which I won't go into detail of at this time, however. Suffice to say that we did see many anomalous aerial phenomena while there. We also experienced ‘The Hum’ for several months around 1997. I’m not saying that all that has a connection with the grid, just an interesting connection – especially his use of an obsolete place name. BTW Nihotupu means ‘broken teeth’…

The Cathie Grid over Auckland:

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smashdracs



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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:48 pm    Post Subject:  

"smash,
i'm awaiting the book "the energy grid" by bruce cathie.. the 1997 paperback (used) off amazon.com for some $US 4.50.

have you seen this software? may make your wellington grid project substantially easier "




Thats a good price for the book!
Yeah I actually had another programme that does the same once, alas it is long gone....and the gridpoint software is a bit too pricey for me!
The benefit of doing our own maps is they are easier to look at and read, and they are portable, and can be taken on field trips and missions. Im intent on learning how to plot the grid myself and understanding the mathematical theory, which will be a challenge for me as I failed mathematics terribly at school.


Change of subject...Damn you guys should see the fog here at the moment...PEA SOUP!
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Deano



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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:07 pm    Post Subject:  

I read one of Cathies books years ago, not sure which but it was old. I am quite fascinated in the grid system and wouldnt mind checking if this area is on the grid.


Quote:
Damn you guys should see the fog here at the moment...PEA SOUP!


Went out to foxton beach today. Chemtrails being sprayed about 10k off the coast in short bursts. Not the usual lengthy trails. Over the afternoon the smear went from out to sea all the way east to the ranges a considerable distance. Wonder if theres any conection.
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Melody Anderson



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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:35 pm    Post Subject: Bruce Cathie - A New Zealand treasure  

Actually, it may interest people to know, that the level of curiosity about Bruce Cathie is such that the search phrase 'Bruce Cathie' rates as the fourth most popular search term in the Mysterious NZ site statistics - that is number 4 on the list of searches that bring people to this site :) Coming in behind 'Kaimanawa Wall', 'mysterious NZ' and 'chemtrails'.

Barry Brailsford is number 5 incidentally...
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roofdoggy



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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:52 am    Post Subject:  

hi smashdracs. i had to do the cheaps and quickly scroll to the bottom here, i'll read all later. i picked up 'harmonic 33' in a secondhand bookshop the otherday, im just doing it bits at a time. i think cathie was and is very onto it in his studdies...
long story short. id love to know more about your grid maps and anything you guys could suss out for upper north island etc.

chir to the chir
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roofdoggy



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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:20 am    Post Subject: the grid  

http://members.telering.at/t.faltejsek/
this is a link to a free world grid program.
i downloaded it but was instantly baffled. i'll have another go later
heiro - from what i've read most of the churches in europe were built over ancient sites and henges etc. the earlier europeans knew of these energies, hence the straight lines of standing stones for hundreds of miles accross western europe. obelix was a busy chap. and so the kind hearted catholic vampires jumped on them and then i guess killed as many witches and druids etc who knew about these powers and now we are all sports watching, beer drinking, god fearing drones.

it's also interesting to look at local maps and draw lines between churches, masonic lodges, prisons, and anywhere else that harbours dodgyness and the potential to create negative energy.
you can find some pretty solid lines in some places.

choice.
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smashdracs



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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:27 am    Post Subject:  

Hi roofdoggy. First thing you should do is buy a topographic map of your area and a good compass(the kind you draw circles with) ruler, protracter and set squares.
The next thing you should do is research all and every historical UFO sighting in your area and try to get as accurate position of the events as you can. Ufo sightings can be an indicator of the grids prescence.

We have discovered...rediscovered that Bruce Cathie was indeed correct when he said that most, if not all large radar and transmittor aerial sites are located on specific grid points. Plotting these on your map will also give you some dots to connect later.


Im going to draw up the grid on my new map in the next few days, and I will try to take a series of close up photos so you can see what we are doing.

Posting quickly like I am now does not do justice to the topic. I need to get myself up to speed with my friend on the maths side of things, and then start a thread soley about The Grid and how to plot it. Then it can be clearly explained. I read Cathies books again and again when I was younger, and the maths part looked way over my head, I dearly wanted to be able to draw up my own maps. Then just this month, a friend who I put on to Cathies research just went straight into plotting the grid out on a cheap crappy map to see if there was anything to it! And yes, it was very interesting to look at.

Cathie used what he called pyramid inches and nauticle miles as measurements, as he believes the METRIC SYSTEM is a non harmonic set of numbers, and useless for studying the grid. Metrics dont fit properly.

Why are we taught a maths system that is so out of kilter with the natural world? Another way to keep us all dumb? Once again Ive butchered Cathies ideas while trying to explain them!!!!!

Once you guys have read through his books, and I get my ones back we can really have some good discussion about it all!
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smashdracs



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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:36 am    Post Subject:  

Apparently most Mormon Churches are built on grid crosspoints of harmonic signifigance..(phew thats a mouthful).

It gets really interesting when you look at the geometric relationships between these sorts of sites. For example Parliament, Te Papa and several monuments around Wellington appear to have been built in specific places at specific distances.

Someone appears to have been right into their harmonic mathematics during their town planning.
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Melody Anderson



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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:45 am    Post Subject:  

Great stuff, smashdracs. I look forward to seeing what you come up with on your maps... :-)
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Hieronymous Bosch



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Location: Christchurch

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:16 pm    Post Subject:  

smash,
looks like you have started a "new wave" here with pointing us toward bruce cathie, and i thank you for that :)

john/melody,
you had mentioned your interest in contacting bruce for an interview article. splendid! once more of us get up to speed with his research, especially relating to observation on chemtrails, anomalous objects, transmitter locations, etc., this interview would be extremely useful as an added-value to pursuits of these hidden mysteries!

best of luck in pursuing and obtaining this interview.

cheers-
-hiero
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smashdracs



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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:29 pm    Post Subject:  

There are 2 reasons why my friend Brendon and I have begun to dig a little deeper into this subject (thanks for moving it here!)

Firstly we had suspicions that there is a connection between spray corridoors and the Harmonic Grid. Circumstantial evidence points to this as correct.

Secondly, we have been planning UFO hunting expeditions in the Wellington region and this seemed like a good way to help locate areas that may see more activity than others...a bit like having a road map to find our way instead of stabbing at the dark.

Brendon is slowly getting together some homemade geomagnetic detectors, or another way of saying it: devices to measure and watch the earths magnetic field in places chosen by us in this area.
The reason being that UFO activity is often characterised by magnetic and or electrical phenomena when it is happening near the ground.
Brendons theory is we can detect UFO activity by monitoring the earths magnetic feild on points of the Grid or along gridlines etc. We also want to use the maps to pick sites to set up our deck chairs and watch the skies for strangeness whilst having a few cold ones. A good way to pass time and hopefully stay out of trouble.

So its an ongoing project for us that is right in its infancy, but one that I felt compelled to share even though we are barely into it. The interest from everyone here is motivation to push on with this research.
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smashdracs



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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:09 pm    Post Subject:  

Wow there is a movie being released this year

http://www.bimmini.com/cathie.htm
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John Anderson



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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:47 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi Smash,

Quote:
Wow there is a movie being released this year


Not too sure about that, from their site it seems to be a 2002 project and they are still looking for a distributor. Very interesting though, and something to ask Cathie about when we do that interview. :D
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smashdracs



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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:57 am    Post Subject:  

Hmm, the link for that movie came up during a clusty search and the header on the search engine said release in 2006....or I could have misread it...
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smashdracs



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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:12 am    Post Subject:  

An update on the map project.

My friend Brendon whom I mentioned earlier Is dedicated to this little project every bit as much as I am. He had 3 maps of the Wellington area that he has been working on when we last met.
We looked over his Whitcouls purchased maps and compared them with my Topographic map which resulted in some four letter words and disbelief from Brendon when he realised his latest grid draft had been done on a map that was a whole kilometer out of "reality" with its scale.

I couldnt help but laugh. So we played around with a ruler on my Topo map measuring out distances of "certain sites of interest" to us, from one another, and Brendon gave me a quick rundown on how to convert kilometer distances to nauticle miles.

It is obvious that Im screwed without a calculator at this point.
Brendon seems to be getting a good grasp of Cathies theories and Im picking them up bit by bit.
The only thing we have to go on at first is precise locations of UFO activity, and various "installations of interest" as clues to the grids position.
Cathies books give a real leg up with plotting the grid onto a map as he gives us plenty of good pointers through them. This is exactly how he built his theory.

Another catch is the metric system has to be converted in order to see the harmonic mathematics....Cathie converted to nauticle miles, a measurement he says is harmonic in its nature. A thing called a pyramid inch is another measurement mentioned by Cathie, it is if I remember rightly a little larger than a British imperial inch.

Its realy hard to write things out in a post, but hopefully Im getting it across.

Another interesting thing is how precisely the radar site on Hawkins Hill is aligned with the Antennas etc on Mount Victoria and also Mount Kaukau which has a huge mast on it.

Mt Vic mast to Hawkins Hill radar 14cm on my map equaling a near exact 6km according to my map....

Mt Vic to Mt Kaukau same again near exact.

Hawins Hill to Outlook Hill weather radar 14cm or 6km near exact.

Mt Vic to Baring Head radio mast 28cm or 12km near exactly double the previous mentioned distances.

The Mast and aerial installation topic is a bit of a tangent...but still interesting given how many of these various sites are so consistantly spaced, and also how the topography of the region makes this possible. You need good hilltops to put such things on, and the Topography seems to be very obliging.
Its interesting what you find with a map and ruler.
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John Anderson



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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:23 am    Post Subject:  

Hi Smashdracs,

Does your map go as far as Tangimoana? It would be interesting to know if the spy station there relates to Cathie's grid. Ditto the station in the Waihopai valley, of course...
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smashdracs



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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:33 am    Post Subject:  

Thats a very good question John. Brendon has stated that that particular installation is of interest to him and he is going to plot it out. My map does not reach that far....

Brendon is going to do a photo stakeout of that facility to compliment the map project.

We both intend to add the Marlborough region to the project, and Brendon wants to do a grid map of the Kaipara region.
So those are the first parts of the map project that we are doing. The Marlborough and Wellington maps are the most important to us at the moment....and when they are done in the next few weeks we will probably investigate other areas.

My hope is that Brendon can show me all the basics, and I can then accurately share them here for others to duplicate the research.
We should all be familiar with this stuff and have grid maps to help us get a grip on things....
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