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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:17 am Post Subject: Chemtrails & Orbs over Spain
Hello people,
Itīs the first time I write in this forum and I donīt know if I do it in the right topic. I would like to inform you how is the chemtrail situation in Spain, where I live. Our chemtrail situation is right bad.
with the pictures I made since june 2005 mostly in Madrid.
A couple of days ago, while I was taking some pictures of chemtrails I saw some lcircular light objects forming 2 groups and flying at a very high speed near a chemtrail airplane. They are not birds, planes, nothing that I know in this world. Did you also see those circular objetcs in the NZ???? I think they call it "orbs", but I donīt know what they are exactly. Does anybody knows it???
Take a look at the pictures concerning these mYsterious light objects
In the pictures you will see, they are from the 4.th, 5th and 13th, but yesterday the 20th I saw them again, just right when a chemtrail plane or what it is passed. Since I have observed this circular objects I doubt if they are planes or other things. They fly so high and they are so small. Really strange, I donīt have any explanation for this.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:14 pm Post Subject:
fortune711,
bienvenido!
thanks for posting links to your site and photo albums. unfortunately, it appears that madrid area gets heavy activity, similar to parts of the usa. i'm originally from southern california, and the activity that i've seen there is reminiscent.
i had trouble accessing your "orb" pictures. yes, we do observe this anomaly here in new zealand. here is a picture taken in the south island, of two chemtrails being laid and orb present: (click on picture to zoom in. orb is top-right above the telephone pole)
there is some speculation about orbs, but it is definitely truth being stranger than fiction! whether this is nato (us) secret technology interacting with the trails, or some extraterrestrial craft, it is left largely to speculation. one thing is for sure, these craft do appear to be more numerous during or right after chemtrail sprays.
one thing of interest.. it appears that madrid, spain area has moderate activity year-round. in the usa (and new zealand), chemtrail activity "generally" increases in the winter months and falls off sharply in the summer.
if you would please upload orb pictures to site with more bandwidth, that would be great. try this one: http://www.mytempdir.com/
simply copy the link into the body of your forum post.
anyway, it is interesting to get global perspective of these aerosol vandals.
good work with your website awareness for europe.
Thanks a lot for your nice post. I couldnīt write before as Iīve been very busy.
I have to tell you that the link of my site take a little bit to open, so just try again and wait a little bit
Thanks for the pictures. Yes they are very similar to mine, just that mine are in small formations.
Well last Sunday, 22nd January I saw them again. We had a very nice and sunny day, but around 01.00 p.m. there was a thick chemtrail over my house, so I went out to take some pictures, but the mostly planes just let a small and short trail. Around 06.30 p.m. I went out again and took my camera with me. Itīs a digital Kodak DX 4330 3.1 megapixels. Itīs not a very good one, but itīs small and easy just to make a short walk. I have another one the Nikon D50 with an 50-200 mm objective, but I dīnt use to carry it with me, just when I go with my husband. And suddendly after an aircraft passed with a small trail I saw them again. There were around 60-100 small circular light balls in the same direction flying from northeast to northwest and I made again the pictures. You see them smaller than in the other pictures, probably the distance was larger and on the pictures we can see just a few from the "orbs" not all. I know I should take the Nikon. Next time :D :D
It belongs to my spanish forum and there are also all pictures. And if you should not able to open all the links Iīll upload them to imageshack or to the site you gave me.
As you say, wether they are special secret crat from us, I too would say from russia or they are extraterrestrial craft. Who knows, I would prefer the second possibility :twisted:
Yes you are right itīs interesting to get a global view of what is happening. Thatīs why I am here and in other american and german sites. I also speak german.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:43 am Post Subject:
fortune711,
great pictures! simply remarkable.
also, thanks for the link to the anomalous objects video clips.. these are very compelling.
that forum thread in spanish looks very interesting to say the least, especially the satellite photo of amsterdam island showing what looks to be clearly a scalar waveform transmission through the weather front. also, there is one i think in idaho that has a grey beam next to a very stange looking chemtrail, right next to a hole-punch cloud!
have you witnessed disappearing craft and/or grey beam anomalous activity in spain? we have several photos here of craft either disappearing or totally invisible, but with chemtrail formed right behind it (plasma cloaking technology), plus anomalous grey beams in front of planes or through clouds juxtaposed to chemtrails.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:08 pm Post Subject:
Welcome Fortune711,
And thanks for your interesting posts and the great links. As Hiero has indicated, some of us have photographed these enigmatic orbs and there has been some discussion on this forum as to their nature While the silver orbs may well be a type of surveillance monitor, the White Orbs to me seem to have all the hallmarks of an intelligent life form. While individual orbs are common, they are also seen to be gregarious often milling around in groups and in the case of your fine images, in formation and seemingly going somewhere. There are also reports that they seem to respond to thought communication, though that would, no doubt, be a rather contentious assertion and one very hard to prove. So what do you think Fortune711? In your opinion, could the White Orbs be a form of life?
That Science does not recognise such a creature means very little in my opinion. There is much in this world that Science does not care to acknowledge...
That the White Orb is a worldwide phenomenon is beyond doubt. Any genuine investigator can easily capture them on film even if they can not be seen by eye. All it takes is to take enough photographs of persistent-type contrails with a camera of reasonable resolution and eventually there will be photographs of orbs - and/or other things. It should then be a simple matter for the investigator to eliminate other possibilities such as CCD dust, birds, insects etc. So simple is this to do that I can't help but feel that orbs already are being, or have been, investigated by some category of scientist. But don't hold your breath waiting for the report. :?
Here's an image taken on the 18th April 2005 at the junction of Spooners Hill Road and Highway 1 between Taihape and Waiouru, central North Island. The 'clouds' in the pic had started life off the coast near Tangimoana some four hours previous. We eventually saw them heading over the northern Bay of Plenty and the Coromandel Peninsula, still going strong. The dark shape at the top of the pic is my hand shielding the lens from the sun. If you scroll around you'll find that there are quite a number of orbs in the image, one of a number we took that day with anomalous stuff in them and associated with what we regarded as Chemtrails.
Yes concerning the waves clouds of Amsterdam Island, people say it looks like HAARP made. Maybe there is another HAARP station. There must be lots of them, not just the one in Alaska.
Concerning those disappearing craft and/or grey beam activity, I havenīt witnessed anyone till the moment. Sometimes I tried and tried to see the aeroplane and I couldnīt see it, as it was so little and flying so high. Also modificating the pictures with photoshop I wasnīt able to see the craft. Maybe this is what you mean.
What we also have is that mysterious dark line in front oder beside the craft. The other day I could see with the binoculars how the aeroplane drove exactly through the middle of the dark line. There many people that say itīs not a shadow.
Today 28.01., we had a very clear and sunny day. No trails in all sky.
What can I tell you?? It was the first time in my life I saw those small balls flying. Also I saw as they changed their appearence. The ones from 4th January first they looked like small dark sticks. There is one picture with that appearence and immediately they changed to those circular light balls.
As my site is the only one in Spain talking about chemtrails and now about "orbs", there were some investigators interested in my explanations and pictures. There also has been watching my pictures an ornithologist and he finally said "they are birds"... :shock: :shock:
Well Iīm sure they are not birds, but if heīs happy so, Iīll let him.
What your picture shows is exactly what I saw and the last day, 22nd January, I can tell you they were lots of balls, almost 100, but in the pictures there just few of them. Yes, and as you say, some are dark and some white. Did your orbs also change their appearance???
My husband bought me today a new small digital camera, so that I can carry it in my bag. Itīs the Kodak Z740 5.0 megapixels and with a 10xzoom (equiv) 38-380 mm) :lol: so I hope to get better pictures next time.
On the other hand, the owner from the site www.orbwar.com is analyzing all the pictures and heīs going to put all pictures in a motion graphics program and include it in a video. So I will let you know his comments and also show you the video.
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:58 am Post Subject:
Fortune 711 wrote:
There also has been watching my pictures an ornithologist and he finally said "they are birds"
Naturally, when you first notice these objects in photographs, you are moved to suppose that they might be birds. There are, however, a number of factors that are just too coincidental or just don't fit that explanation...
On one particular day in question, where later examination (we didn't notice them at the time we were taking the pictures) of our shots revealed these orb like objects in some of the photos:
1.) The orbs only appeared in shots including chemtrails
2.) We didn't see them at the time - only later on examining the digital images at higher magnifications
I would expect that if it had been a flock of birds, they would have been much more noticeable at the time. Admittedly, we were in quite a hurry to get somewhere that day, most of observation was done from our moving vehicle, only stopping to document the activity here and there - we didn't spend a lot of time outside the vehicle studying what we were seeing for any length of time.
3.) Other shots we have taken that include birds show the bird shaped form very clearly
Perhaps you could argue that at the moment the picture was actually taken, the wings were positioned close into the birds' bodies, rather than outstretched and that this is whey they appear to be round shapes... This doesn't make any logical sense. In shots where there are literally dozens of these objects, you would expect at least one, generally more, where the birds' wings had been captured extended. Dozens of birds and not one that actually looks like a bird in flight? Too coincidental that every single bird in shot has its wings wrapped around its body at the precise moment the photo is taken. The lighting and form on the shapes simply doesn't fit with the bird theory either.
4.) If these were birds, they should all be dark in colour, not bright and ball shaped, as they are in shadow, being viewed from the ground with the sun behind them.
In many of the shots the objects appear to be very very bright and reflective, either with their own form of illumination or somehow reflecting light in a way that makes them appear to be almost white...
5.) Shots were taken in the central North Island, far from the sea. These were light coloured objects ('birds' if you must), very very high in the sky, almost amongst the clouds.
Here the only option for the birds would have to be sea birds - what were they doing swarming in that location?
I think it would be an interesting test to go out to an area known for bird activity and take numerous shots to see how many portray the birds as spherical shapes when captured on camera...
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:56 pm Post Subject:
This article by Brenda Livingston 'The UFO - Chemtrail Connection', though published over five years ago, is still a good summary of observations of objects associated with Chemtrails:
2.) We didn't see them at the time - only later on examining the digital images at higher magnifications
Well I saw them before I took the pictures, but at that day was a heavy chemtrail day and at that moment I was looking with attention to the chemtrail craft, that just passed.
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3.) Other shots we have taken that include birds show the bird shaped form very clearly
Perhaps you could argue that at the moment the picture was actually taken, the wings were positioned close into the birds' bodies, rather than outstretched and that this is whey they appear to be round shapes... This doesn't make any logical sense. In shots where there are literally dozens of these objects, you would expect at least one, generally more, where the birds' wings had been captured extended. Dozens of birds and not one that actually looks like a bird in flight? Too coincidental that every single bird in shot has its wings wrapped around its body at the precise moment the photo is taken. The lighting and form on the shapes simply doesn't fit with the bird theory either.
:lol: :lol: that was a very good argument. I didnīt see in all time any wings and I am enough old to know what a birds with wings. Yes you are right it doesnīt fit with the bird theory, but probably itīs easier to believer that.
I took this picture the other day, just to compare and they really look like birds. This time I saw the wings and they were flying very very high. :D
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4.) If these were birds, they should all be dark in colour, not bright and ball shaped, as they are in shadow, being viewed from the ground with the sun behind them.
Yes I think so, but the orthonologist said, thatīs because I was between the sun and the objects.
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5.) Shots were taken in the central North Island, far from the sea. These were light coloured objects ('birds' if you must), very very high in the sky, almost amongst the clouds.
Here the only option for the birds would have to be sea birds - what were they doing swarming in that location?
The pictures were taken in Madrid. We are around 400 km far away from the sea, so I think what were all those sea birds doing here????
That man also said, he definetly thinks they are birds, when I showed him this last picture with real birds. He said "they are the same" :twisted: :lol:
Thanks Melody and John for all these good arguments and links concerning orbs.
