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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:23 pm Post Subject:
I've heard rumours that Bush's 'christianity' is a mere convenience and that neither he nor his family have ever been particularly religious. But what better way to sell war to a hardline, wealthy electorate than to claim you're in direct communication with the almighty?
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:00 am Post Subject:
Melody Anderson wrote:
I've heard rumours that Bush's 'christianity' is a mere convenience and that neither he nor his family have ever been particularly religious. But what better way to sell war to a hardline, wealthy electorate than to claim you're in direct communication with the almighty?
hi melody,
you betcha. total window-dressing. having grown up in america, it is so easy to see why. the elite-controlled "edutainment" industries definitely uses a "divide and conquer" brainwashing methodology. there are no grey areas worthy of inquest anymore. facts given by authorities are taken as gospel with little educated skepticism. everything can be put in a box with a label. children are taught from a very young age that you are either "with us" or "against us". even marketing tactics use this psychology. "brand awareness" really becomes a psychological rally-cry for emblem addiction. we fight for emblems, not human truth. this divisiveness was never apart of the rugged individualistic liberty loving american spirit prior to 1945. many americans today still fight for freedom and liberty, yet become labeled as "redneck militias" or "quaint hicks". most of the world forgets the extreme pacificsm of america just prior to ww1. woodrow wilson was the first cfr executive puppet. after that, america has been used as a sort of tool. the elite don't care about nations. nations are just tools to be used to complete global objectives.
since the end of ww2 and the cold war, it appears that the hegelian dialectic is alive and well in america, inflitrated directly from its so-called cold war enemy. kruschev said to jfk, "we will destroy you from the inside".
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:53 am Post Subject:
Hi Hiero,
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since the end of ww2 and the cold war, it appears that the hegelian dialectic is alive and well in america, inflitrated directly from its so-called cold war enemy. kruschev said to jfk, "we will destroy you from the inside".
I'm not sure that I fully understand what you infer by this. Would you mind explaining a little more in terms of Hegel's model of thesis, antithesis and synthesis. It sounds significant. :shock:
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:43 pm Post Subject:
John Anderson wrote:
Hi Hiero,
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since the end of ww2 and the cold war, it appears that the hegelian dialectic is alive and well in america, inflitrated directly from its so-called cold war enemy. kruschev said to jfk, "we will destroy you from the inside".
I'm not sure that I fully understand what you infer by this. Would you mind explaining a little more in terms of Hegel's model of thesis, antithesis and synthesis. It sounds significant. :shock:
john,
sure. years ago, i read a good treatise on this subject. it was penned by an ex-kgb defector, anatoli golitsyn. his main work is called "the perestroika deception". the other is "new lies for old"
you may want to google: golitsyn, perestroika deception, etc.
the basic principle is that the coming third way is really just a kinder, gentler communism and that perestroika was the vehicle for this. "democracy is indispensable to socialism. socialism is indispensible to communism" using leninist techniques, such as the hegelian dialectic, a world-wide third way atheistic "utopia" will be installed.
hegelian dialectic..?
technique used to bring about a desired result:
1. thesis. a problem is intentionally created
2. antithesis. opposition to the problem is created
3. synthesis. the desired result is brought in as a solution
let's take 911 for example. the neo-cons want to pass unpopular draconian anti-terrorist legislation called the patriot act and to occupy the middle east..
the planes are flown into buildings.
americans are horrified, scared. "we need to do something".
bush gets congress to:
pass unpopular legislation which takes away many civil liberties and turns the us constitution into swiss cheese.
war on terrorism declared. countries invaded.
the other macrosystem is the steadfast two-party system.. both sides, left and right, blue and red, democrats and republicans, labour and national are controlled and pitted against one another. democracy chooses which one to lead them.. but ultimately, both parties lead to the objective.. you can get to the wizard on the yellow brick road, or by state highway 1, it doesn't matter.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:10 pm Post Subject:
Thanks for a most excellent answer Hiero,
I had a sense that this is what you were referring to. It is what we have become familiar with as "Problem, Reaction, Solution", especially as expounded by David Icke and I think I prefer this term. I just couldn't connect it with Hegel. As used in this context it seems to be a corruption of Hegel's dialectic, more a methodology of manipulation. So, yes it is obvious how this method is used in the US, it is particularly effective with a fearful, self-indulgent populace who are grateful for any scrap of comfort they are permitted to cling to. Not only in the US, every government, every power group in every country are becoming masters of the method. Such 'problems' are usually easy to recognise and the likely 'solution' easy to predict.
In this country it is extremely disturbing to see how even small groups are using a form of Problem, Reaction, Solution to provoke national and local government to pass laws to further restrict and diminish our freedoms. The recent furore over Guy Fawkes night is a case in point. In these types of case the model is modified somewhat. It becomes; take an incident, apply gross exaggeration, bombard the media, stir up the public, pressure the law-makers, laws are passed.
The imposition of mandatory cycle helmets is a classic case of one person applying this method. Rebecca Oaten, from Palmerston North, pressured the media and lobbied the government to introduce the legislation after her 9-year-old son Aaron was permanently brain damaged in a cycle accident in 1986. Although I did not intend to write a post on cycle helmet legislation, now that I'm there, it's an interesting case. At first glance it may seem to have been a success as statistics have been presented that seem to show that there has been a significant saving of lives since the legislation. But as we know, statistics can be tricky little things...
Quote:
"The LTSA is fond of pointing out that the number of cyclist head injuries has decreased by around 20% but they fail to mention that the number of cyclists has decreased by around 30%."
But a lot of helmets got sold. There are, in fact, other negative aspects of the legislation, but now anyone who tries to present an alternative view on cycle helmets tends to be labeled "the lunatic fringe". As is usual when laws are created in this manner, they become 'carved in stone'.
A book could be written about the use of Problem, Reaction, Solution and such methods just in New Zealand, let alone in the wider world, the War on Terrorism etc. But not at this time. :)
