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Carus



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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:55 pm    Post Subject: What television is doing to our children's brains  

I saw an interesting news item on Close Up this evening. Susan Wood interviewed a man called Aric Sigman who has written a book about arrested development in children and the link with television viewing. The book is called Remotely Controlled and there is an excerpt from the book at this web site:

http://www.randomhouse.co.uk/catalog/extract.htm?command=search&db=main.txt&eqisbndata=0091902606

He says that the television viewing affects the development in the brain of children and that they should be kept from watching until the age of three. From there it should be kept to a maximum of one hour a day.

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There is now growing concern that watching television distorts the wiring in the developing brain, which is undergoing rapid growth during the first few years of a child's life. The advice now is that children should not start watching television before the age of three. The American Medical Association is now notifying its paediatricians to assess viewing habits when treating all hyperactive children.


Worthy of consideration. I find the commercials and programs have become more “flashy” and I sometimes turn away during the ad’s as I can’t stand it on my eyes. Some of the action movies can be pretty hard going as well. If you look at a movie made 20-30 years ago, they are generally a lot slower moving. Anyone notice that they feel a bit bored by some older movies now?

Being able to pay attention has some far reaching effects as this excerpt explains:

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Yet attention is not merely confined to everyday descriptions such as 'concentration' or 'attention span'. For example, it's being able to notice things on the periphery of awareness out of the corner of your eye, versus being able instead to diminish your peripheral awareness and focus and concentrate on one narrow thing. While this version of attention refers to attending to external things, there are also forms of attention to internal matters, both physical and psychological: inner awareness. The search for the G-spot is, in many ways, a misguided search for regaining long-lost control of inner-directed attention, not a physical spot.
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Azimuth



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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:14 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi Carus,

I too saw that Close Up feature. The facts and figures were quite alarming. I would like to read Aric Sigman's book.

Regards
Azimuth
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Carus



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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:09 pm    Post Subject: Ron Phillips on working with troubled teenagers  

On the topic of development in children, yesterday I had the use of a loan car from my mechanic. The radio was tuned to Newstalk 1ZB (which I rarely listen to) and I caught the beginning of an interview with Leighton Smith and an American (now NZ resident) called Ron Phillips.

The discussion talked of his work with emotionally distressed children (particluarly teenagers) which he has been doing for many years, and since 1991 in NZ. Here is a brief explanation from his website:

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Ron, together with his wife, Mary, founded and directed Creative Alternatives, a highly successful group home in Northern California. Creative Alternatives provides an alternative to institutional care for emotionally distressed young people. It was during his time at Creative Alternatives that Ron first began telling stories and compiled the material that was to become "Gem of the First Water" and TSI.

The stories evolved in response to Ron finding these troubled teens difficult to reach using more traditional forms of therapy. Ron found the stories touched and opened young people in surprising and amazing ways. Not only were transformations apparent but the children wanted to come back time and again to listen to the next "installment" of the story. Although telling the stories engaged them initially, the use of the questioning process that developed alongside the stories, invited them to make a connection with the main character. This really stimulated and provoked reflection and change. It was this relationship between the storytelling, the questioning process and the interaction between the storyteller and the group that became the initial development of TSI.

Storytelling is an ancient art. The storyteller's stories passed down knowledge of culture, history and language from one generation to another. Today the oral tradition assumes less importance but is proving to be the breakthrough in TSI. The telling of stories to teenagers, with guided questioning, is touching them in ways traditional life skills education and therapeutic methods are not.


See their website here:
http://www.tsi.co.nz/whatistsi.html

Interesting stuff. I found the 1ZB website, which turned out to be better than I thought with everything that has been broadcast for the last week available to listen to in 15 minute segments. So I was able to find the interview and listen to the whole thing. The link is here and the interview was from 10.15am to around 11.00am.

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/weekondemand.asp?weekday=5&menu=2&menuitem=3
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Melody Anderson



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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:51 am    Post Subject:  

Interesting stuff indeed Carus. I look forward to being able to follow up on some of those links.
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satanzhand



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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:25 pm    Post Subject: tv  

The problem i find with TV is it is full of food ad's designed to get kids to get junk food! and a lot of it is sublinal.

If you look into project mk ultra in the US which was about cia/goverment funded mind control and then look at Massaru Emoto research on the effects of sound/words/pictures on water you.

You can start to see what the marketing companies and goverments are really about.

And dont think for one second NZ is different from the trouble in the US because we aren't in some aspects we are further along.

kind regards
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John Anderson



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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:16 pm    Post Subject:  

HI satanzhand,

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And dont think for one second NZ is different from the trouble in the US because we aren't in some aspects we are further along.


I would not dispute what you say here, but I am interested as to what particular aspects you feel are further along in New Zealand...
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satanzhand



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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:50 pm    Post Subject: oh man  

I wrote this massive rant and it disapeared because i hadn't logged on yet. Duh

in regards to all advertising we are not as advanced as a whole but certainly the larger campanies are (which tend to be foreign owned).

we are in the same league though in regards to news media!

We only get one point of view from all or NZ Tv and radio stations, its so bad they dont even bother hiding the fact the reports are all from the same place anymore.

If you want an example of sublinals you'll need to read up more on them to see them, but basically you'll find sexual shapes words in most soft drink advertising and most fast food ad's. If you think 'so what?' your stretching it on some of the images/words they put in advertising. Just read up more on how the sublinal mind works. Then get ready to freak out as even vibration and tone can have a dramatic effect on us which is lasting and not conscious.

yours thoughts welcome
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John Anderson



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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:25 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi satanzhand,

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I wrote this massive rant and it disapeared because i hadn't logged on yet. Duh


Yeah, that is frustrating, after a few times it finally gets through to your brain to type your post in Word, Notepad or similar, then paste it. :D

With regard to the subliminal stuff, I would guess that you'd have to have a certain type of mind for it to work on you. Perhaps it's most effective on those who are easily led? Or do you think that we are all affected to some degree?

Having been involved in the world of advertising I see something similar in the power of implication and impression. For example, companies can give the impression that they are successful by the sheer quantity of advertising they do, and it doesn't even matter if people like it or even are consciously aware of it. The implication being that if a company spends a lot, they can afford it because they are successful - and people tend to feel more confident in purchasing from a company that is successful than one that may not be. I have a feeling that this approach may be more effective than the subliminal stuff ...
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satanzhand



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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:50 pm    Post Subject: im in advertising also  

Yeah what your saying about the spending is also subliminal, because it will have an effect and they may not be aware of it.

When I was a greedy little yuppy(or wanted to be more so) I came up with the idea for my new business( my current one) which had a very new concept which could leave people questioning its effectivness and possibly saying no.
Well my idea was this, (i already had some funds from another business but was by no means rich) I went and bought a couple of very expensive items of clothing but low key(shoes and suit) then I bought a Ferrari on tick. I would then drive this to all my appointments I almost never got a NO(lol), anyway those days are over.

The thing with subliminals is your free will gets sneaked out, a simple example is the old flashing desert pictures during a movie so people will feel thirsty now how can you combat against that as it has nothing to do with intelligence. An example tonight i saw on the news is a news presenter reporting in lebanon with a lovely sunny back drop and beautiful un damaged scenery saying blah blah now this an attempt to minize whats going on over there and support Israel casually.

Another thing to do is what any address by Bush, you'll find things like halo's over this head, lots of people standing around him(eg.troops meaning he is supported by them) etc etc.....a good picture to look at is him when he was at the grade school reading a book with the kids during 911.

Although once you have seen a few you can pick up on the easier ones and ignore them. But when they insert tiny boob's and penis etc in pictures/adverts upside down theres not much chance of picking it up in your consious thought but the sub-consious picks it up straight away. Its scary stuff.

I have always been aware of how this stuff works being in high end sales for a while I used basic forms of verbal brainwashing to sell products face to face. But a big turning point for me happened a while ago when firstly my wife and I noticed that or kids could resight a whole infomercial nearly word for word that they had only seen once at age 21/2 and 31/2yrs and we also noticed that even though we were strong willed people we would have urges to eat junk food after watching an hour of TV and we would have no urges when not watching tv....hmmm (so did the kids) when it really hit home was when I read about Dr Massaru Emoto( recommend googling him) in Japan and his research on the sound/pictures/writing having postive and negatives effects on water crystals. Now if a something as simple as a picture can effect a of water what the hell can it be doing to us, controlling most of us thats what.

that was more of a Rant...ahh
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Melody Anderson



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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:19 pm    Post Subject:  

:-) Great example satanzhand...

I remember doing some reading up on the subliminal images in advertising theory a while back. Some of it, as I recall, was doubtful or hard to believe there was a deliberate motive behind. The incidences of animators 'slipping in' x rated frames into kiddies' movies were interesting. One example was from Who framed Roger Rabbit, where the viewer gets a quick glimpse of human-like Jessica Rabbit wearing no underwear. There was also something from the Little Mermaid movie. Perhaps these are cases of the animators having a bit of a laugh, rather than anything 'sinister'...

One example that 'stuck out' for me was the Joe Camel character, who doesn't look much like a camel at all but bears a striking resemblance to male anatomy...



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Melody Anderson



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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:57 pm    Post Subject:  

By the way satanzhand, did you manage to pay off the Ferrari? :wink:
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satanzhand



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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:02 pm    Post Subject: Camel A  

Personally wouldn't see any joke in showing little kids nudes.

There are some examples of McDonalds making there chicken nuggets look male member-ish also.

anyway the point is it has an effect even if you are not aware of it, and its used to effect our thoughts.

once you are aware of some you can pick them up a little easier but spotting the upside down ones etc is nearly impossible.

People must learn to check things out.
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satanzhand



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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:08 pm    Post Subject: ferrari  

No , I didn't pay it off as it was on a short term lease. But I did buy a new E55 Merc with my earnings. Much more practical for a young family.

I have since sold that though and bought a very eco friendly car and am currently looking at having a fully electric car( Im turning very hippy these days)

Plus the rising fuel costs, gave me a really good excuse to buy a motorcycle so i can revisit my youth. yeee although I think im going to run into trouble with the new noise laws. duh!
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satanzhand



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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:16 pm    Post Subject: to challenge your own thoughts and were they came from  

to challenge your own thoughts and were they came from just pick a subject and research it, some good examples might be

GE foods - look for the real truth
Media -
organic Food Vs drugs -
What causes cancer(what really causes cancer) -
drugs in sport -
Banking system(fiat money) -
Why do Goverments think its ok to drop bombs on Little children and the idiots who justify it for them.

The best way I find to research is to follow the money, and not everything is a conspircy just most stuff
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Melody Anderson



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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:21 pm    Post Subject:  

What do you think the effects of subliminal images in advertising might be, satanzhand? Say, for example, a penis detectable in a glass of whiskey? I mean, do you think that a visual sexual connotation has some sort of influential effect on the consumer?
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satanzhand



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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:14 pm    Post Subject: yes  

yes, images of any kind have an effect on both the consious and sub-consious thought and the body.

Even words spoken and writen(also electro magnetic radation/radio waves/Food) have an effect on the body and mind which ultimately effects your mood.

The use of a sexual image is to 1) Grab your attention 2)Associate That feeling (eg. sexual arousal) with there product the feel good factor.....how the feel good factor manafests can be different because of other programming cause a under lying confusion. example. some deeply rellgeous people may also feel guilty etc example. McDonalds tastes horrible and we know it but we still eat it to feel good(weird).

Its easy to dismiss it all untill you start reading about CIA trainning, SAS Trainning, Sales, Marketing, Media control, education of the young, how the mind works.

all this kinda fits in with what we where talking about in other forums... The key to over coming the conspircy thing is seeing, really seeing whats going on and once you work out how the whole thing works ... its amazing A lot of things will fit together... thats what lifes about, putting the pieces of the puzzle together and this is just the language of one set of instructions.
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John Anderson



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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:19 pm    Post Subject:  

It would seem that the antonym to subliminal is supraliminal ie: existing above the threshold of consciousness or adequate to evoke a response or induce a sensation. Here's a recent example:



From New Scientist 28 June 2006

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We all know the scene: the departmental coffee room, with the price list for tea and coffee on the wall and the “honesty box” where you pay for your drinks – or not, because no one is watching.

In a finding that will have office managers everywhere scurrying for the photocopier, researchers have discovered that merely a picture of watching eyes nearly trebled the amount of money put in the box.

Melissa Bateson and colleagues at Newcastle University, UK, put up new price lists each week in their psychology department coffee room. Prices were unchanged, but each week there was a photocopied picture at the top of the list, measuring 15 by 3 centimetres, of either flowers or the eyes of real faces. The faces varied but the eyes always looked directly at the observer.

In weeks with eyes on the list, staff paid 2.76 times as much for their drinks as in weeks with flowers. “Frankly we were staggered by the size of the effect,” Gilbert Roberts, one of the researchers, told New Scientist.


Complete article here:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9424?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref=dn9424

This is where the real power is satanzhand SUPRALIMINAL. Read 1984, nothing subliminal there... :shock:
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