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lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

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Single Persistent Contrail.
Hi , Looking out the window now at a huge trail (8.30 am).The trail is running more or less north to south ( I didn’t see this one being made but was outside earlier this morning - around 7.40 and noticed an unusual "small trail" a lot higher in the sky. I got my binoculars to check it out but it was very small but running at right angles to the other clouds (and also the same orientation as the trail out there now) I thought i'd mention this as its kinda interesting - almost like a test trail…
And finally sorry , no pictures as I'm not at work today… curse the flu….

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

I have just photographed a huge trail over Auckland as it was being formed.
It was going South-North as seen a few times before. I initially spotted it at 8.24am. It's still hanging in there loud and clear and certainly isn't dissapating in a hurry. It's a fine, warm morning here with a light breeze - maybe around 15 degrees. I will post pictures to the gallery soon.

lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

Hi Carus,

Are you looking from the West? I contacted a workmate of mine and they said the trail wasnt visable in the city (at 8.30) due to all the haze looking out west. By the looks of it its making its way towards the city now with the breeze.

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

Hi Lyra,

Yes, I'm looking from Waitakere towards the city, the trail is still there (hardly spread at all). It was going away from the city in a direction I've seen standard airlines flying out. The plane wasn't visible and again, as remarked by myself and others before, was travelling very quickly.

lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

Its not going anywhere fast is it!... Just moving east.

I've been searching back though previous posts and we've both seen this particular trail (Vector / size etc) before. This is the most common trail that I see. I was on the bus a few months back and saw it being formed. Definitely a very fast plane... Did you get any shots of the aircraft?

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

No, the plane wasn't visible but I got the front of the trail as it was being formed, which I've posted to the gallery. I can still see the trail but it's less obvious as the sky is becoming hazy.

Junglealien · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Auckland

I travel from Avondale to Mairangi Bay to work and watched this chemtrail being formed all the way. I noticed it as soon as I turned east onto the Rosebank Rd on ramp to the North-Western motorway. As described it was running South to North. I took plenty of photos while driving but have yet to check their quality but will post any goodies.

Ok - I've seen chemtrails before, some beauties(!) down in Marlborough and Golden Bay, but this streak across an otherwise clear sky apart from some high thin cloud was a new sight to me - and then while travelling along Meola Rd I noticed for about twenty seconds a grey beam in front of the plane!!! I've seen images of this phenomena but this was my first experience. The beam was clearly defined for about twenty seconds and then faded. Wow!

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

Hi Junglealien,

Welcome to the forum :D

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Morning All,

And welcome Junglealien (hehehe, love it). Great to have another spotter on board. The black/grey beam phenomena are a truly wonderful site to witness, whether it be created by radar, OTH technology or just simply an optical illusion. In fact the persistent CT I photo'd up in Paihia the other day, briefly (about 2/3 seconds) had two dark beams projecting from the front of it as it was directly overhead. Unfortunately (Murphy’s Law) as it was near the sun I was putting my lens hood cover on my camera and missed photographing the beams.

There has also been a bit of CT activity up here this morning also. Note, the relative humidity is very high today:

Auckland: 18 Oct 2005:0700hrs
Temp=10.4 degrees
Relative Humidity= 90%

Similar up here as well.

http://www.metvuw.com/nzweather/index.php?type=tempc

Regards
Azimuth

Melody Anderson · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:19 pm Post Subject:

Hi All,

And welcome JungleAlien :-)

Carus's photos are now in the gallery (http://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/photogallery/displayimage.php?album=12&pos=111). We got a call from a friend this morning to report this contrail. So we went out and got a couple of photos. The one below was taken from our place at Titirangi at about 8:34am.

When I took the call, I first thought it was going to be in the same direction as occasional single trails I have seen in Auckland before, which seem to travel parallel with our street. However, this one was on a much different trajectory than those we have seen previously here. We didn't see it being formed and by the time we saw it it was starting to spread. It's hard to tell but it looked like more of a south-east to north-westerly direction.

Very interested to hear about the grey beam JungleAlien. I notice that Carus's photos show a shadow on the cloud below. Presumably what you saw on Meola was quite different to that? Was it against the blue sky or cloud cover?

Looking forward to seeing some of your shots, hopefully they came out OK...

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Hi All,

Great capture(s) Carus.

Mrs Azimuth went to Auckland this morning. From a hill near Wellsford she said she had seen the biggest CT yet, that was about 0845hrs and said it stretched from horizon to horizon, North to South, (She didn't specify what direct of travel) but was cursing me for taking the spare camera out of the wagon......oops :oops:

I have photo'd four trails this morning including an anomaly near one, so will post later.

Note: Relative humidity is high, between 76 and 86%, Auckland to Far North.

Regards
Azimuth.

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

Hi all,

I was glad to see that link you put up Azimuth - I was wanting to find something specific like that for temperature and humidity.

Melody wrote:

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Hi Carus,

Yes a handy wee weather link.

Notice a few apparent CT's in the latest NOAA Satellite image from 5.57am this morning (18 Oct) as well.
http://satellite.landcareresearch.co.nz/noaa/

I have been waiting for the latest one which may show this mornings activity.

Regards
Azimuth

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

:) Yes, that is a good satellite photo - if they are trails they're huge :!:

Deano · Joined: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 741

Heavy Chemtrailing in this region today all day. Not much activity for some time until today. I too would be interested to see satelite shots of the rest of the day.
Ha surely it doesnt take all day to airbrush the lines off a sat photo :D

Jean · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 16 Location: Auckland

Hi all and welcome Junglealien :-)

I can verify your observations about the formation of the chemtrail and the grey beam.

I watched the contrail being laid as well. I go to work on to the North Western Motorway from Waterview and then the Southern Motorway right through to Mt Wellington.

As I entered the motorway the trail was right in front of me and the plane, although I couldn't see it was straight above. It was going from my right to my left (roughly south to north). I was able to observe it for a short time but it seemed to be heading straight in front of the sun and I lost it for a while. By the time I got closer to the city, about the Newton Rd offramp I was able to see further north and could see the trail being laid to the north. I noticed the grey beam in front of the plane. This is the first time I have actually seen a contrail/chemtrail being laid and seeing the grey beam was amazing!

When I went onto the Southern Motorway the trail was straight ahead of me again and I watched it all the way to Mt Wellington. As I got nearer Penrose and more south I could see the start of the trail. At first I thought it was from the airport but realised it couldn't be, it must have started at the west coast as the plane began to cross the land. It did not come out of the horizon but seemed to emerge from a small cloud bank.

The trail was so dominant in the sky and with so much traffic on the road at that time and able to observe it, it seems strange that there has not been a word about it in the news, on radio or by word of mouth. Something like that is not an everyday sight, in Auckland anyway. :o

Junglealien · Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Auckland

Hi again everyone

I had a good look at my images this evening and found that one had a strange object in it that was near the forming trail / plane but not in much detail and is hard to identify of course!

Also due to my driving and my determining whether I was actually seeing a grey beam or not :shock: - I took no discernable image of this phenomena.

And thanks Jean for backing me up on that one too! :-)

Keep watching the skies!

Hieronymous Bosch · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 266 Location: Christchurch

great observations!
grey beams are incredibly bizarre. when i witnessed this in christchurch a couple months ago, it is patently obvious that it is not commerical activity.

some had argued here that what i saw was a distrail. although i accept this as a possible theory, the observation just didn't add up.

imho, what we are observing is some scalar over-the-horizon laser-like em energy beam creating positive ion drop outs... similar to the "hole in the cloud" or "punch clouds" made by scalar interferometers.

joan · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 39

Hi all and welcome junglealien,

Good to see you on the forum

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

Hi Deano,

John Anderson · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:11 pm Post Subject:

Hi Hiero,

Hieronymous Bosch · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 266 Location: Christchurch

John Anderson · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:16 pm Post Subject:

Hi Hiero,