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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:45 pm Post Subject: It's Official. Keith Locke is aware of the Chemtrail issue
We decided on the spur of the moment to attend Paul Buchanan's book launch at Auckland University last week. Armed with a bundle of Mysterious NZ cards we went along not knowing quite what to expect. We had the pleasure of meeting Ahmed Zaoui (a charming and humble man), who was there with his lawyer Deborah Manning and some of his supporters.
We handed out a few cards and had some very revealing conversations, particularly about recent disturbing changes to NZ legislation (see the Citizenship and Travel Documents Bill). We are hoping to publish some articles from a guest contributor, who has a passionate and inspirational dedication to promoting public awareness, with a deep knowledge of the subject.
We had Paul Buchanan sign our book and chatted a little about 911 before he became very distracted by something going on behind him, just as we happened to mention NORAD standing down...
Then we got the chance to talk to Green MP Keith Locke about chemtrails. We asked him if he had heard of chemtrails. Asking us to repeat the word, he gave the impression of someone who was unaware of the issue (whether he was previously aware of them or not - of course, I couldn't possibly comment :) ) Thrusting our card into his hand, we gave him the low down on chemtrails in New Zealand, the links with bases like Tangimoana and Waihopai (which we knew he had a particular interest in) etc etc.
He assured us he would have a look at the website and look into the issue, adding that he couldn't comment until he had a chance to familiarise himself with it.
We hope that Keith does find the time to look into the issue and will take the time to do some serious research.
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Oddity of the Evening: An adult student from the Maori Studies Department (who had 'just come down for the free booze') who confessed to us his profound desire to suck Margaret Mutu's toes :shock:
We had Paul Buchanan sign our book and chatted a little about 911 before he became very distracted by something going on behind him, just as we happened to mention NORAD standing down...
Good on you guys for getting out there and promoting the site to Keith Locke !!...
It would've been interesting to see what Paul Buchanan had to say re 911. Probably something along the lines of catastrophic failings instead of a false flag operation.
I had to laugh on the bus this morning listening to the dubya speech in regard to Iraq…(cant find it to quote sorry) it went along the lines of "Some People say that our presence in Iraq has brought on a whole lot more terrorism in the world…blah , blah , blah.. Have they forgotten about 911!?" - what? - l even if you happen to believe the official 911 story , where did Saddam come into it? I think most people know that the plans were well underway to invade Iraq before then. I suppose if you tell a lie long enough people will take it as fact….
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:38 pm Post Subject:
Hi Lyra,
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It would've been interesting to see what Paul Buchanan had to say re 911. Probably something along the lines of catastrophic failings instead of a false flag operation.
Yes, indeed, something very much like that...
We started by telling him how much we'd enjoyed his Scoop video interview, he was very pleased especially as he felt that he'd had a 'bad talk day'. Then he signed our book "To John and Melody, thanks for the support, Paul" Then we asked him if he thought that 9/11 was a put-up job in order to justify 'the war on terror'? He very quickly and emphatically said "No!' and went on to explain that he considered it to have happened because the Administration was inept, they'd been warned but ignored the warnings etc etc When he worked in the Pentagon how he couldn't believe the things they did, the stuff-ups etc. So, as you surmised Lyra.
This line is basically the conventional US administration's take on why 9/11 occurred and one largely echoed by Michael Moore's Disinfodoco. They want the world to believe that they were stupid, they bungled badly, massive intelligence failure etc etc. It's so compelling too, every time we see George Bush on TV it's easy to believe that it's down to just pure stupidity.
Then we challenged him with: "They stood NORAD down!" He looked quite shocked, his eyes widened and immediately turned away and became distracted by something behind him. By the time he turned back he'd composed himself. There are a few anomalies he acknowledged, the way the towers went down, building 7, the small impact hole at the Pentagon... But he believed, he said, that Mohammed Atta and his crew carried it out, the administration was just inept and not otherwise culpable - or words to that effect. That was all we got from him as he moved away to talk to others.
In our opinion it's more than a little puzzling that a person with his intellect, with his experience in the intelligence and security fields (he was a consultant for the CIA) purports to believe that stuff and what is more, teaches it to the young minds he influences at the U of A.
Could it be that he's something like a CIA asset with the specific job of influencing NZ opinion? He has definitely become the expert on terrorism that the media trot out when they need an authoritative voice on the subject, he's also the darling of left wing liberal Scoop who publish his articles etc. He refers to Ahmed Zaoui as a friend and thus has an in with his supporters. He is an advocate for the necessity of the war on terrorism and for strengthening security in this country.
No proof of this, of course, Lyra... What do you think?
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:56 am Post Subject:
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Could it be that he's something like a CIA asset with the specific job of influencing NZ opinion?
No how could this be. These are all good wholesome people with the best interests of human kind at heart. We should all just sit and watch the tv and listen to what the mainstream media has to say about 9/11 then we will all be enlightened with the truth. :lol:
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:20 am Post Subject:
Very funny Tim :lol:
The only way to become 'unenlightened' is to question and challenge the established 'truth' and those who propound it like Paul Buchanan.
My theory is that people like him have been planted in every significant society in order to relieve us of the tiresome necessity to think for ourselves. On your side of the Tasman there is one Clive Williams who well may be the local representative as his line and status as W on T spokesperson, seems (without at this stage looking at him too deeply) to be very similar to Buchanan's...
No how could this be. These are all good wholesome people with the best interests of human kind at heart. We should all just sit and watch the tv and listen to what the mainstream media has to say about 9/11 then we will all be enlightened with the truth. :lol:
Tim
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Yes I agree Tim. Thank goodness we are blessed with the likes of CNN and other fine, honest, credible, unbiased, independent, fact gathering, straight to the point, in yer face old fashioned "fourth estate" journalism establishments and reporting agencies.
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:54 am Post Subject:
Hi John
It is an interesting topic. A friend of mine has been looking at becoming a distributor for some of Alex Jones's documentaries and other dvd material like in Plane Sight, Loose Change etc over here. After viewing some of this material it is obvious that the general masses have not been given an accurate story about 9/11 , but as Alex Jones is pointing out there is an agenda behind this whole thing so it would not surprise me that those who are responsible for 9/11etc have their propagandists hard at work to keep the mainstream official story going. The way things are going it seems that if you don't accept the official story then you will also be labelled as being in with the terrorists as well. :roll:
They want the world to believe that they were stupid, they bungled badly, massive intelligence failure etc etc.
I agree John, by and large they have succeeded. The winners, the mighty military industrial machine, intelligence agencies, the Rockefeller foundation, the Builderburgs, the Halliburton’s etc etc.
The losers; the freedoms and wallet content$ of millions of poor to middle income people duped by 9/11 into paying for the “alleged’ war on terror, aptly named “Enduring Freedom”. The women, children and innocent in Iraq and Afghanistan who have been killed and maimed and will continue to be for many years to come through the use of WMD like DU projectiles.
John Anderson wrote:
every time we see George Bush on TV it's easy to believe that it's down to just pure stupidity.
