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I wonder if there's any connection with the dead Microbiologist epidemic. Another one bit the dust about a week ago, this time a kiwi though retired and as he was killed by a charging Elephant, it's a bit hard to see how that could be rigged. Dozens of microbiologists have been killed around the world, many in highly questionable circumstances.
BTW, I see that New Zealand authorities are preparing contingency plans for a Bird Flu pandemic:
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Bird flu may see NZ close borders
23 September 2005
New Zealand may lock down all air and sea ports if a lethal bird flu epidemic takes hold internationally, potentially turning planes around and putting all arrivals into quarantine.
The disease has killed more than 50 people, but it has not yet learned to rapidly transmit between humans.
In late October, New Zealand border agencies would look at the logistics of stopping all people and imports, such as food and medicine, from entering the country in the event of a pandemic, Customs business development unit manager John Ladd said yesterday...
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:47 pm Post Subject: Re: three blind mice!!
Hi Hiero,
Good find and read.
Hieronymous Bosch wrote:
three blind mice!!
Visual impairment would be the least of their worries………especially with the FBI on their tail(s)
Seriously though, the article is a bit contradictory……….
First off, large numbers of FBI and bio-terrorism experts interrogate and polygraph all and sundry…………..and are satisfied there is no criminal/terrorism intent and no danger to public safety.......OK!!
In the next paragraph…………. lax procedures resulted in a potential public health menace........eemmm
Then a micro-biologist states……….. "This is the black death, the disease that killed a quarter of Europe's population."...........Oh deary me
Further down the page……………. The Public Health Research Institute concedes the missing mice are a problem.............aaaha
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:24 am Post Subject:
john, yes. my thoughts exactly. what, indeed next?
azimuth, again, i share your educated skepticism.
i find it so interesting how the elite, through the media, manipulate situations to create a virtual reality... the pun being.. [the media]... see how THEY run :)
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:06 pm Post Subject:
But wait, there's more...
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Infectious Disease Research in and Around New Orleans
Summary: At the very least, there are two Level-3 biolabs in New Orleans and a cluster of three in nearby Covington. They have been working with anthrax, mousepox, HIV, plague, etc. There are surely other labs in the city.
Here's a great tip for all reporters looking for a completely new - and extremely important - angle on the situation in New Orleans. As far as I can tell, no one has yet mentioned the biological research labs located in and around NOLA. For example, in nearby Covington, Tulane University runs the Tulane National Primate Research Center, a cluster of Level-3 biological labs containing around 5,000 monkeys, most of which are housed in outdoor cages. According to an article in Tulane University Magazine, "The primary areas of focus today at the Tulane National Primate Research Center are infectious diseases, including biodefense related work, gene therapy, reproductive biology and neuroscience. The Tulane primate center is playing a key role in the federal strategic plan for biodefense research." [Google cache | Memory Hole mirror.]
So what happened to these diseased monkeys living outside in cages? Granted, Covington didn't get hit nearly as hard as NOLA, but it still got hit.
According to the Sunshine Project, which digs up grant proposals and other primary documents from the US biowarfare effort, "Tulane scientists are working with anthrax, plague, and other biological weapons agents." [read more]
And how much of this kind of research was going on within New Orleans itself? Apparently quite a bit.
-- Louisiana State University’s Medical School has a Level-3 biolab in the Clinical Sciences Research Building located at 533 Bolivar Street. According to grant applications, LSU’s facility was the site of research involving anthrax and genetically-engineered mousepox. And that’s just what we know about.
-- The State of Louisiana has a Level-3 biolab in New Orleans. [see this PDF document]
-- It seems highly likely that an institution the size of Tulane has biolabs in New Orleans itself, not just Covington.
-- Then there’s the University of New Orleans, Loyola University, Xavier University of Lousiana, and others. I don’t know whether they’ve been engaged in bioresearch or have high-level biolabs, but it’d be worth finding out.
-- And let’s not forget the New Orleans Medical Complex, which contains over 40 blocks of hospitals and biomedical research facilities. According to this website, it’s been severely flooded.
So with all the known and probable Level-3 biolabs in and around New Orleans, what's happened to the infected animals? Are they free and roaming? Are they dead, with their diseased bodies floating in the flood waters? And what about the cultures and vials of the diseases? Are they still secure? Are they being stolen? Were they washed away, now forming part of the toxic soup that coats the city?
And take a look at this. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has a “Select Agents Program” for any facility that handles highly dangerous germs, including Ebola, Marburg, ricin, avian flu, and anthrax. At the top of their website is the following notice:
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Announcement for Entities Impacted by Hurricane Katrina
Entities that are registered with the Select Agent Program who have been impacted by Hurricane Katrina may contact the CDC Select Agent Program for guidance on actions that should be taken to transfer Select Agents to another registered entity or report the theft, loss, or release of select agents that might have occurred due to storm damage. The CDC Select Agent Program will expedite any special requests from registered entities as a result of Hurricane Katrina. Contact the Program via email at lrsat@cdc.gov, phone at 404-498-2255, fax at 404-498-2265, or call your designated CDC representative.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:44 pm Post Subject:
Has anyone else noticed this report, released yesterday by the BBC...
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Down's Syndrome Recreated in Mice
Scientists have been able to introduce most of a human chromosome into mice, producing the most successful recreation of Down's syndrome so far.
This is a very major step forward (or backward depending on your viewpoint) in genetic manipulation in organisms.
In the past, only a few genes have been successfully transplanted from one organism to another.
A chromosome is made up of many hundreds ... or even thousands in some cases ... of genes.
It again raises the issue of "Just because we can, does it mean we should?"
I feel that the ethical arguments around the genetic manipulation of organisms have not been satisfactorily debated in public. In the meantime, science's ability to stuff around with nature grows at a worrying pace.
Morbid Mengele type experimentation :twisted:
Cause they can
Cause we are at the top of the food chain (unless you have recently been abducted by aliens :grey: )
Mice are not at the top of the food chain
Mice are rodents and have no feelings :x
Mice are cheap
Because Rats are more expensive
Because they can't fit monkeys into mice cages
Job security
Castle building
Research funding ($$$$ :D :D )
Fame
The odd Nobel award
Because God created all people equal and they are trying to correct this :!:
Primarily their motives are for the benefit of (at a price) all humanity, particularly those at the top of the financial food chain!!!!
Etc, etc
Armed and dangerous - Flipper the firing dolphin let loose by Katrina
And I thought I’d heard it all, wrong……… is nothing sacred anymore.
Read the full story here:
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by Mark Townsend Houston
Sunday September 25, 2005
The Observer
It may be the oddest tale to emerge from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Armed dolphins, trained by the US military to shoot terrorists and pinpoint spies underwater, may be missing in the Gulf of Mexico.
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:21 am Post Subject:
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It may be the oddest tale to emerge from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Armed dolphins, trained by the US military to shoot terrorists and pinpoint spies underwater, may be missing in the Gulf of Mexico.
Like something out of a bad James Bond movie! :-)
We won't be going on a diving holiday in the Gulf of Mexico any time soon...
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:36 pm Post Subject:
:lol:
what a palooka! i should have titled this thread: "of mice and men"..
armed dolphins? not sure if it was myth or fact, but some ten or fifteen years ago, i remember reading reports that dolphins were trained by the dod/cia and used to carry bombs, etc. into militarily strategic ports during the vietnam war.. i don't recall the original source, but i did a google search and here's what if found:
