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I got that pamphlet in the Post Office box mail also. I presumed it was a some sort of ACT or National Party thing.
I decided to phone it having read your post Carus. You get a recorded message to this effect:
"Thankyou for calling the wake up call response line...
If you agree New Zealand should renew its defense links, please say yes after the tone.
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If you would like more information, leave your name and full postal address after the tone.
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They don't say who it is on behalf of. The pamphlet summarises by saying:
"New Zealanders: Wake Up!
Why would we prefer the overtures of Communist China to a place in the circle of nations that uphold the principles of liberty and democracy?"
This morning's Herald revealed that the exclusive Brethren group found to be responsible for the latest disinfo on the Greens in a recent brochure drop, was also behind the 'Wake Up New Zealand' campaign some time back.
Information:
Exclusive Brethren...
- Cannot eat or drink with, or marry, non-Brethren.
- Cannot live in the same building as anyone who is not in fellowship, including a semi-detached home in which a wall is shared.
- The men are usually self-employed businessmen, and the women fill traditional roles as wives and mothers.
- They number fewer than 2000 in New Zealand, and about 40,000 worldwide.
Another scary little portion from the Herald article on this group... :shock:
New Zealand Herald wrote:
Excommunicated church member John Wallis said the foray into politics was due to the church's new leader, Australian Bruce Hales, who took over when his father, John, died. He said Bruce Hales had told members before George W. Bush and Australian PM John Howard were re-elected that if they were not returned to power, "the rapture", or end of the world, would be near.
Apparently they have been told to pray for National to get into power yet they are not allowed to vote. Bit of a contradiction there eh. Religion and politics should be as far removed as possible from each other.
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:06 pm Post Subject:
Don Brash is admitting he met with them about a month ago, but when asked if they told him about their plans for the leaflet, he ignored the question and a police body guard ended the press conference...
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:03 pm Post Subject:
Seems that the anti-greens pamphlets may be Aussie imports. The Herald is reporting today that the pamphlets circulated by the Brethren bear a striking similarity to some distributed in Tasmania before Australia's last election, including layout and even using exact wording in some instances...
In all of the discussion and hype surrounding this issue in the past week, much has been made of whether or not Brash knew and admitted he knew about the pamphlets - for many people, it's a minor issue. What is an issue and a concerning one, is his admission about meeting the Brethren at least four times. One can imagine that a single meeting for the purposes of them showing their support for National and assurances that they were praying for Don Brash may be credible - but four meetings?
What was discussed at these other meetings? Brash says he can't recall. No doubt, he would have taken notes, where are they? The implications of repeated meetings with such a group are rather disturbing. To imagine they were completely politically innocent would be rather naive.
There have been speculations about who is motivating the Brethren's actions. Church Leader Australian Bruce Hales has been mentioned. This latest Aussie connection certainly makes a stronger case for the possibility that it goes even beyond our shores. Hales is known to have strongly endorsed George W Bush and John Howard.
As the Herald report stated, these ultra-conservative, "born again" evangelical Christians backed the re-election of President George W. Bush in the United States, and John Howard in Australia.
And this from Dr John Hinchcliff, expressing his concerns as a Christian, in the Herald:
Quote:
"In the United States, these fundamentalists had not voted in the previous election. Without their support George W. Bush would not have succeeded this year. Now, they are a well organised, powerful, networked lobby group who will make it difficult for liberals like Clinton or Kennedy to gain the Presidency.
The leader of the 30 million-strong movement of fundamentalist Christians says he talks with Bush every Monday, and they agree on everything but one thing: one of them prefers to drive a Ford and the other a Chevy.
The fundamentalists' theology is based on what has been called "propositional revelation". They know what to do because God has told them. They have privileged access to God's eternal truth.
The whole idea of overseas money and vested interest (let alone dangerous fundamentalist groups) directly interfering in our elections should be of concern to everyone, no matter who you are voting for.
Exclusive Brethren members have refused to comment on the election outcome, saying they are not political experts and have no agenda(my emphasis).
Members of the sect, who were responsible for anonymous pamphlets attacking Labour and the Greens and have had meetings with National leader Don Brash and Act leader Rodney Hide, chose to not return phone calls or were coy when asked about early election results...
Yeah right! And since television/the media is evil, no doubt they didn't watch the election coverage on TV last night either... [-X
P.S. $500,000 worth of no agenda? I don't think so...
