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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:29 pm Post Subject: maximum potassium levels in NZ and OZ?
Hi,
Just wondering, in NZ and Australia is potassium as a supplement being culled like in other coutries?
For example, potassium is way more important than its reputation... for overall physical, mental and spiritual health. (see http://www.carnicom.com/potassium2.htm) With low levels, stuff just does not work properly. Yet despite the Recommended Daily Intake being previously accepted as 3500-4000mg, in the US the maximum allowable potassium in any supplement is 99mg. So, you would have to take 40 tablets to get your RDI. University studies have shown that under 3,500mg per day and your likely hood of heart disease, heart attack, anxiety, depression, etc can go up. Also has spiritual implications (IE you feel lethargic spiritually if K is too low).
Secondly, HAARP/ELF harmonics seem to be messing with the potassium elements in our bodies, at the 20hZ level. (see other article at http://www.carnicom.com/potassium1.htm).
Both of these lead me to believe that something fishy is going on. Can anyone confirm what is the "legal" supplement limit of potassium in NZ & OZ?
cheers,
~TS :)
ps- by the way, pls no "doctored" replies about how we get enough potassium from the foods that the average person eats... yadda yadda. I've heard it all before ok thx. :wink:
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:09 pm Post Subject:
Hi Terrashift and welcome,
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Just wondering, in NZ and Australia is potassium as a supplement being culled like in other coutries?
Personally I don't know the answer to that question and hope someone else from the forum will answer it for you. I am interested however in your statement:
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by the way, pls no "doctored" replies about how we get enough potassium from the foods that the average person eats... yadda yadda. I've heard it all before ok thx.
It has always seemed to me that the human body is quite able to obtain all required minerals nutrients etc from a normal balanced diet, plus it has the ability to synthesis when necessary. You seem to be suggesting here, at least with regard to potassium, that is not the case. I'm not disputing what you say, I don't know enough about the subject to do that, though I am interested in any justification for your Comment. Probably something to learn here...
Thought Id throw this one to my girlfriend who has studied studied Herbal Medicine for many years. She has sent me a text saying 2000mg is recommended daily intake of potassium.
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:30 pm Post Subject:
There seems to be a wide variance for the recommended daily intake figures on web sites out there. One site saying 1950 to 5460mgs per day!
Deano, your girlfriend's figure of 2000mgs sounds a bit more manageable... Do you think she can help with Terrashift's question about the allowable legal limit for potassium in supplements?
I'll have a closer look at some packaging next time we're out and about...
Melody - thanks for that link...! I saw that site previously but had lost the link...
There seems to be a lot of misinformation, or at least there's a gray area, out there about Potassium. The US has in the past set RDI for Potassium at 3,500, where it currently still stands. However the current limit for potassium tablets as mentioned is a paltry 99mg. I've heard of RDI's by other agencies as low as 2, 000 and as high as 5,500+ (agree with your #'s Melody). This is in fact a wide variance... perhaps we will see these numbers decrease over time, just as there is a wide variance in the upper limit of allowable aluminum in drinking water -- and that upper limit is on the whole, going up. Perhaps this can be called conspiratory thinking, but it is just from observations. Seems there is good cause here for a close look on the situation, esp. in light of HAARP interference at the potassium ion's resident freqency.
It is true that this RDI is not easily reached by the average actual diet, especially today's average actual diet. What's more, if you have a high sodium content (very prevalent), the potassium in your body is not able to be used as effectively.
Problems associated with low potassium levels (hypokalemia) include high blood pressure, congestive heart failure, cardiac arrhythmias, palpitations, muscle weakness, hyperthyroid, elevated blood sugar, mental apathy, depression, fatigue, and general weakness, while severe potassium loss can cause death. Temporary loss of potassium can result from profuse sweating (heavy exercise, viral infections), or diarrhea and vomiting, which can also be a concern in infants. Long-term potassium loss may result from working in a hot, humid environment, hormonal and kidney disturbances, prescribed medications or over-the-counter (OTC) remedies, including nutritional supplements (licorice), or high intake of sugar.
Serum potassium does not usually go up with high dietary intake of potassium, so toxicity is not much of a problem in healthy individuals, as the kidneys readily excrete any excess of potassium*.
*note - if you have kidney disease and take wayyy too much potassium (almost impossible to do), it is not the best thing.
I recently read the summary of a university study (sorry I can't find the link... I gotta start saving them!), with several hundred (or thousand?) elderly patients. The ones that were monitored as intaking less than 3,500mg had a noticably higher rate of heart disease, heart attack, and mental problems.... again, I wish I could find the damn link...
So, more study is needed. Keep the opinions and ideas coming!
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:24 pm Post Subject: Re: maximum potassium levels in NZ and OZ?
terrashift wrote:
University studies have shown that under 3,500mg per day and your likely hood of heart disease, heart attack, anxiety, depression, etc can go up. Also has spiritual implications (IE you feel lethargic spiritually if K is too low).
Secondly, HAARP/ELF harmonics seem to be messing with the potassium elements in our bodies, at the 20hZ level. (see other article at http://www.carnicom.com/potassium1.htm).
Hi TS,
Yes potassium is important - but potassium in overdose is dangerous too !(I'm not sure what constitutes overdose in oral administration)
If significant deydration occurs for any reason, potassium is always replaced intravenously in hospital emergency departments, and frequently leads to a fairly rapid improvement in patients condition.
It is the sodium/potassium balance which has to be maintained for healthy function of vital systems.
May I suggest you go to a pharmacist and enquire? many pharmacists these days are open to 'natural' or 'alternative' treatment, or health maintenance, and would be aware of any legal changes.
I wonder if chemtrails are interfering with potassium levels?
Pamela
Thanks Pamela. I have in fact talked to a pharmacist about it who appeared surprised as me actually.... I don't think she was overly knowledgeable about the subject.
I think chemtrails/Elf harmonics or a combination of both could potentially be interfering with Potassium in our bodies. Carnicom's studies and personal experiences do make a reasonably good case for this.
On a related note, I am noticing that people in the past 2 years (or thereabouts) here in North America just do not look as healthy, on the whole. I am noticing the skin around the corners of many ppl's eyes, including myself, seems to be increasingly discoloured. IE - darker, kind of purplish. It could be due to the high level of computer use but my gut feeling and personal experience says that is not the ultimate cause. Not like how ppl looked 20 years ago! And the cause does not seem allergenic or sleep-related in nature, at this point.
Has anyone noticed general widespread health symptoms such as this starting to be visible, and in what parts of the world? Any other opinions / ideas would be welcome :)
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:25 am Post Subject: NZ soils very low in many essential minerals
Due to our use of superphosphate NZ soils are very deficient in a number of not only important but essential minerals. To say that we can get all we need from foods is simply wrong. Percy Weston proved this by showing that farm animals given mineral suppliments for the minerals nz soils are deficient in show remarkable improvements in health. he says we should be able to live to 120 with the right mineral ballance in an ideal location. Hundreds of testimonials from his mineral powder he makes for people are now flooding in. His plan is to teach people how to reduce phosphorus intake and increase calcium and potassium intake. he says the results can be live saving...
Interesting article about Percy Weston and his experiments with his sheep and use of fertilisers on the farm. His statement about complete nutrition resulting in almost full immunity against disease is important in terms of the same being true for people. Not enough being said about this from the health authorities here I feel - too much emphasis on vaccines and manufactured medicines. i.e Tamilflu for treating Bird Flu and vaccines for the common cold. If you're healthy your body is capable of curing itself.
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Finally Percy got the balance right. He writes, "An era of trouble-free farming began. Fleeces were 20% heavier. The complete nutrition of my sheep ensured almost full immunity against disease. I had not a single case of cancer among 600 ewes. It was no longer necessary to vaccinate, and our sheep have very few problems with worms."
