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Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:40 pm Post Subject:
Hmmm. Yes it's interesting. However...
Well known chemtrail journo Will Thomas very much subscribes to the idea that chemtrails are being laid to try to ameliorate global warming. Many others of course, also like to subscribe to this theory. The explanation for the secrecy and denial being that if the public were told of the reasons for the spraying they might panic.
Well it might sound good and it might feel a lot more comfortable to go along with the idea that these things are being laid down for the good of mankind and that a few people getting sick from the effects is a small price to pay for saving the planet. BUT - I don't buy it.
1.) We all realise that the spraying operations must represent huge amounts of investment. Since when do 'they' spend this kind of money for the good of mankind? Historically, it is spent on endeavours that give 'them' military advantage or other kinds of dominance....
2.) The science just doesn't stack up to support the 'warding off global warming' theory:
We have studied this extensively for our presentation (currently in progress). The reality is that large masses of thin cirrus cloud (including aviation induced cirrus) potentially increases the warming of the Earth. You can find many scientific papers on the internet that discuss this, with particular reference to the contrail problem.
I am surprised that Will Thomas, with the amount of research he must have done, is taken in by this flimsy theory. I suspect he has placed a lot of credibility with supposed insider whistleblower types who have (perhaps conveniently) confirmed the theory.
And what better way to spread disinformation than to go to one of the most well known and respected chemtrail researchers and spin him a story that may discourage further investigation into what is really going on while he gives credence to the dodgy theory and includes it is a plausible explanation in all his public material...
Whoever is in charge of the operation and those who carry out these missions, at times on an unbelievably large scale, especially in the USA, are doing so with full knowledge that increasing the cirrus cloud cover around the planet to this extent has potentially catastrophic implications for the increased warming of the Earth.
I would urge everyone to be very careful about believing the 'chemtrails help to deter global warming' theory. Do your own research, here are a couple of articles for starters:
One of several of my theories is that they are indeed laying down a protective layer but to prevent damage to sensitive communications and electrical equipment from the extra radiation coming to Earth from the currently (last few years) overactive sun which is now producing many M-class flares and the odd X-class event. If you wish to start following the level of solar flares hitting us I reccomend the following link.
Joined: 09 Jun 2005
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Location: Christchurch
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:16 pm Post Subject:
hi melody,
i also agree that "combating global warming" is just a hobgoblin.
but, what the article does mention, for which i'm in agreement, is the steadfast refusal of such groups such as the greens, greenpeace, etc. who have flat-out refused to admit that weather modification (chemtrails) is being used. also, that since the phenomenon is becoming so widely observed and reported, and that are numerous legislative/treaty barriers to admitting any aspect of the program, the hobgoblin: "saving the earth from global warming storms, etc." may be in fact, the big official lie that will eventually be publically made.. most likely from the bush crime family.
Introduced in the US Senate on March 1, 2005, Bill S517 calls for a US “Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board” to officially commence operations in October 2005. When passed as expected, this law will make large-scale chemical alteration of the atmosphere legal across a formerly free and beautiful land called America.
imho, chemtrails and associated anomalous objects and technologies are a military project with global scope. the environmental aspects are hobgoblins. it's all big shell game. politicians in power protecting their own "platform".
last month, i posted a link to a very informative holmstead article by wayne hall to the european parliament. and again, although i don't agree with the allusion to ozone repair and/or global warming relief, the article also provides scintillating insights into how byzantine the misinformation/disinformation truly is.. and how large groups of seemingly responsible environmental groups prefer to file this in the "too hard basket" rather than tackle it straight on for what it really represents.. experimentation toward abject control of the environment for military purposes.
the more information nuggets we digest, the clearer the picture beomes. the pieces are almost there, imho.
also, imho, we need someone in parliament to prepare a bill to eliminate all weather modification technologies within the territories of new zealand. if new zealand can't do it, then no country in the world can.
just my two cents as always
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who, when, how? however, even in the slim chance of a bill getting ratified, the repurcussions of such a bill may in fact be extremely deleterious politically, and may even provoke extreme difficulties to police. how would nz chase nato jets out of her airspace? would we fire up the ol' tomahawks? create a falklands style crisis?
just some food for thought. now for some food for the body :)
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:57 pm Post Subject:
Hieronymous Bosch wrote:
the steadfast refusal of such groups such as the greens, greenpeace, etc. who have flat-out refused to admit that weather modification (chemtrails) is being used
Yes. I read an article some time ago (can't find it now) suggesting that the Greenpeace organisation has some rather dubious and little known financial connections with individuals who could be said to be anything but environmentally conscientious - I wouldn't be surprised if they proved to be 'not what they seem to be' at the very highest levels. Will post the link to the article if I can find it.
In her efforts to get a hearing on the chemtrail issue, Betty Rowe spoke with the Green Party a number of times. They acknowledged they were aware of the chemtrail issue and that they had had letters from concerned New Zealanders - but they were unprepared to make any kind of statement or take any kind of action :(
I think the issue has to be put in such a way and with such impact, at the right time, that it cannot be swept under the carpet. We hope that this web site can do its bit to document how widespread it is here in New Zealand and provide a voice of common sense and reason. We also hope that our DVD (yes it's looking like a DVD instead of a VCD now) will be able to present the issue from our New Zealand perspective with some compelling arguments...
