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Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Posts: 15
Location: south taranaki
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:09 am Post Subject: Monday Activity in the Taranaki area
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Good Morning All,
I took 80 photos on Monday the 19-07-05,of planes,leaving muck all over the sky.
five planes north-south at 9.00am 10.17am 10.32am 11.20am 12.16pm and two planes flying south -north.
This is NZ ,and it saddens me
I have not seen any ct planes since,plenty of normal contrail planes thought.
My partner says, thats the normal flight path,condensation,etc...
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 387
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:01 pm Post Subject:
Hi Anna,
To be able to discern normal contrails from Chemtrails is, at times, a bit of an art. It is also the product of much observation and self-education. The issue has been made difficult by what we regard as a 'smokescreen'. In other parts of the world when Chemtrails first hit the public consciousness, the planes doing the spraying were almost always identified as military (KC 135 and KC10 tankers). For an example of a credible investigation see this:
After a while though, it became apparent to observers on the ground that normal commercial craft were starting to create persisting trails that mimicked CTs. Eventually this was explained away by the authorities as due to new designs of jet engine that because they were very efficient and produced hardly any aerosol by-products, though lots of water vapour, were more inclined to produce persistent trails. We do not believe this explanation (neither do a lot of scientists by the way) and consider that a more likely scenario is that changes to the fuel are producing the PTs. Furthermore, we believe that this is being done to mask the real CT activity and we have directly seen evidence of this. On occasion observing 'normal' PTs from commercial traffic on normal flight paths together with the anomalous stuff that now defines genuine Chemtrail activity. And we'll have much more to say about all this in due course.
Soon it is planned to put up some maps on Myst NZ of normal domestic and international flight paths, which will help in identifying aircraft being and going where they shouldn't be.
Those behind the Chemtrail phenomena are masters of disinformation. There is a vast amount of reliable information on the Internet, but an even vaster amount of disinformation. Even some seemingly genuine Chemtrail sites are not what they seem to be, likewise some Chemtrail 'researchers' are not what they seem to be. So we have to be very cautious in this field if we wish to be of real value to our country and bring the reality of this evil phenomena and the motives of those behind it, to the consciousness of many ordinary New Zealanders.
Quote:
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." - Buddha (563BC-483BC)
We very much need those like yourself Anna who are 'fortunate' to live in a zone of Chemtrail activity and who are prepared to observe, record and report your findings here on Myst NZ for the benefit of all. We warmly encourage your continued participation... :D
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 814
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:17 pm Post Subject: Re: Monday Activity in the Taranaki area
Well said John.
Something Anna said hits the nail on the head as far as the realities of what we are seeing in the sky and why it should concern everyone, 'believers', skeptics and debunkers alike:
anna wrote:
I took 80 photos on Monday the 19-07-05,of planes, leaving muck all over the sky
Whether chemtrails with deliberate and sinister payloads, or whether persistent and spreading contrails left by commercial aricraft on normal flight paths, the polluting nature of these trails is becoming a serious issue in New Zealand.
Generally, as a society, we regard graffiti in our public places as unacceptable. We have rules about noise pollution and limits on noise levels. More and more councils are placing tighter restrictions on open fires because of their polluting influence on the air. Yet the public continues to condone the filthy haze left by jet contrails as normal - 'they're just normal contrails'.
We have seen for ourselves the muck all over the sky Anna is referring to, after continual contrail activity over a long period of time. We have seen deliberate and anomalous spraying we would regard as chemtrail activity. We have seen similar effects produced by commercial aircraft on normal flight paths. But one thing remains relevant in both situations:
Our beautiful clear blue skies are defiled by these things. I am staggered that so many people are prepared to regard this as acceptable...
