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Hieronymous Bosch
Joined: 09 Jun 2005
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Location: Christchurch
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:10 pm Post Subject: nz military installations |
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hi folks,
to better understand the phenomenon, it would be helpful to compile a list and locations of nz (and joint us/australian) military installations, radiotransmitter/microwave facilities in the country.
activity appears to be concentrated in the following areas:
*northland
*south west coast north island (wanganui/levin/foxton)
*marlborough
*north canterbury/kaikoura
*canterbury
*central/northwest coast south island (including golden bay)
trying to discern if there is a correlation with nearby facility. now, it may not need to be a "overt" facility such as waihopai, but any large transmitting antennae complex.
ok, here is the list of known facilities:
1. niwa: lumsden. central otago
2. burnham military camp: canterbury
3. waihopai spy base, marlborough
4. wellington radar station (if known, please confirm. apparently joint us/nz run station near mt. victoria area?)
5. palmerston north/levin (is there a facility around there?)
6. waiouru: central south north island
7. whagarei: nz navy? facility there?
folks, any help would be appreciated.. if someone knows of more facilities, better definition of what they do.. where they are...
my thoughts are that we may conveniently see a relationship between areas of heavy spraying and nearby (within 120km) facilities of this type.
cheers-
hiero
off to sunshine coast, australia for a week !! :-) will have my digital camera handy.. and will snap any chemtrails around that area... |
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Melody Anderson
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:50 pm Post Subject: |
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This would be very useful. We have often wondered about such a correlation - of course there are bound to be installations nobody knows about.
Tangimoana is the facility nearest Levin. There is rumoured to be some kind of underground base in the Murchison area - anyone else heard of this one? |
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info4
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:16 pm Post Subject: |
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What about bases.
For eg when I was in the airforce I remember guys saying that the Ohakea radar could see most of the country. Is that info you are looking for as well. :?: |
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Deano
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Melody Anderson
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:07 pm Post Subject: |
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Excellent info on Tangimoana thanks Deano :-) Nicky Hager takes an annual tour party around some of the secret installations known to him, including Tangimoana. We missed out on this year's one unfortunately...
Last time we were in southern parts we followed some full-on chemtrail activity to the coast, right over the top of Tangimoana Station. We had thoughts of getting some good shots of the trails over the base, but found you can't see anything from the road. Just a driveway. We were discussing the wisdom (not seriously) of going up the driveway and minutes later a vehicle came out of the drive and drove up the drive across the road. A guy got out and hung around for awhile. When he got back into his vehicle, he looked like he had something slung across his shoulder (a camera or binos perhaps?) and then drove back up the drive to Tangimoana. Seems they have quite a dense pine forest now protecting the base from prying eyes...
They shot out of the driveway a whole lot quicker at Tangimoana than the white unmarked van at Waihopai did :) We were must have been there for about 15 minutes before they sent the vehicle out in 2003. I think Tangimoana is reputed to be a pretty serious installation. |
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Hieronymous Bosch
Joined: 09 Jun 2005
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Location: Christchurch
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:10 am Post Subject: |
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extremely informative thread.
interesting to hear about tangimoana.
well done folks.
-hiero |
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lyra
Joined: 21 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:40 pm Post Subject: |
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Hi Melody,
I'm interested it what you are saying about Tangimoana. I'm sure in the early 90's you could see the installation from the road. We used to go to the beach there in the summer... It always struck me as a magical sort of place.It looked like a lot of Aerials of different descriptions. I don’t think they had any Radomes like at Waihopai.. I also thought that that base was mainly used in the monitoring of VHF transmission around NZ - boats and things like that.... They must have upgraded the facility… |
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Azimuth
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:09 pm Post Subject: |
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NAVCOMMSTA WAIOURU
Here is another one to add to the list.
NAVCOMMSTA; Naval Communications Station, situated at HMNZS Irirangi in good old Waiouru. Go figure, a Navy ship in the middle of a desert!
Here is a little bit about HMNZS Irirangi:
Construction of a combined Naval and RNZAF wireless station with accommodation for about 200 personnel was started in June 1942, to be known as the "Combined Services Wireless Station."The accommodation and administration covered 30 acres in what is now Sinclairs farm at Hihitahi, with the receiver site and aerials covering a further 400 acres. The Naval and Airforce transmitter stations were built some seven miles to the north at Waiouru to reduce interference with the receivers.
The Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) operated from Irirangi until1982.
For more information vitit:
http://www.rnzncomms.net.nz/ShipFolders/shipirirangi/navcommsta.html
What is the GCSB; Basically they are our technical spies and have similar status as the NZSIS. GCSB was formally established in 1977 by the then Prime Minister Robert Muldoon. The GCSB was formed to take responsibility for the Communications and Technical Security (COMSEC & TECSEC) and Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) roles of the New Zealand Government. (A Computer Security role was added later).
In 1982 the radio-interception capability of the GCSB was moved from HMNZS Irirangi, when the HF radio interception and direction-finding station at Tangimoana was commissioned.
GCSB and SIGNET were not publicly acknowledged until 1984.
Here is more about what they do:
| Quote: | Mission
The mission of the GCSB is to contribute to the national security of New Zealand through:
a. providing foreign signals intelligence to support and inform Government decision making,
b. providing an all-hours foreign intelligence watch and warning service to Government,
c. ensuring the integrity, availability and confidentiality of official information through the provision of information systems security services to Government, and
d. assisting in the protection of the national critical infrastructure from information-borne threats.
Functions
The GCSB achieves its mission through:
a. the gathering, analysis and reporting of foreign communications. This function includes:
i. collection and analysis of foreign communications, and
ii. production and dissemination of SIGINT reports.
b. provision of INFOSEC advice and assistance to Government Departments. This function includes:
i. Production, distribution and control of INFOSEC material and crytographic key material, and
ii. INFOSEC assessment and inspection services.
c. provision of policy advice and assistance to Government Departments, including support to the NZDF military and peacekeeping activities, and
d. operation of the Centre for Critical Infrastructure Protection. |
http://www.gcsb.govt.nz/aboutus/history-gcsb.html
Regards
Azimuth |
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Melody Anderson
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:18 pm Post Subject: |
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| lyra wrote: | | I'm interested it what you are saying about Tangimoana. I'm sure in the early 90's you could see the installation from the road. We used to go to the beach there in the summer... |
Quite possible. It's completely surrounded by forest now. Pine trees being so fast growing wouldn't take too long to completely obscure an installation like that. I believe Owen Wilkes, who first spotted the aerials and realised the implications, saw it from the beach (doubtful it would be visible from there either now). Locals used to joke about the new 'secret squirrel' facility in the area... |
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