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Deano
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satanzhand
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:43 pm Post Subject: its every where |
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This stuff is even in vitamins!! can you believe it
Hey it not only causes cancer it dulls the mind of reason!! I wonder what good that would be!!
Flouride has the same etc...basically if you want to keep health read the ingredients list for any fast food/junk food and stay away from it. |
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Carus
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:33 pm Post Subject: |
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| Quote: | | This stuff is even in vitamins!! can you believe it |
I haven't heard about that one before satanzhand. Can you offer any more details or examples on this....are you saying aspartame is in some vitamins? |
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Deano
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:48 pm Post Subject: |
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Carus,
Phenylalanine-aspartame is in Berocca tablets for one. I was quite disturbed though to find they put it in PK chewing gum. PK always had sugar but not so long ago they put Phenylalanine in AS WELL as sugar!.
Nutrition fact about Phenylalanine in aspartame:
The 1976 Groliers encyclopedia states cancer cannot live without phenylalanine. Phenylalanine makes up 50% of aspartame.
http://www.sweetpoison.com/phenylalanine.html |
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satanzhand
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:00 pm Post Subject: examples |
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It looks like deano has given you some already.
You will normally see it in any chewable vitamins or Childrens vitamins or lots of stuff in general that children might be given by well meaning parents thinking they are giving there kids a healthy choice.
There was a recent study released also confirming it does cause cancer.
published in one of the larger newspapers.
once you detox yourself from it you will notice yourself thinking clearly, faster and an improvement in memory ( no joke) ...and like wise if you consume a large amount in one sitting you will fell the reverse. It has been linked to ADD etc in children and I have notice dramatic changes in my kids behaviour( aggression, insolent, anti social) if they are ever feed foods/drinks with the stuff in it.
Mono sodium glutomate (sorry if spelling is incorrect) has a simlar effect. |
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Carus
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:20 pm Post Subject: |
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Hi Deano and satanzhand,
Thanks for your replies and information. I had a look at the website you linked to Deano which gives a lot of disturbing facts. It is interesting that these chemicals that are harmful, are only so in the state they're given to us through manufacturing processes but not when they occur naturally in fruit etc.
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Phenylalanine is one of the essential amino acids found in proteins, but I am one of the believers that amino acids should be eaten in combination, not in isolated form. Nature provides amino acids in combination; only man isolates them for processing purposes.
Phenylalanine is found naturally in foods such as eggs, milk, bananas, and meat...... |
What makes me cringe is reading about people who are diseased and ill from taking manufactured products that then take prescribed drugs to fix the problem. |
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satanzhand
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Carus
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:50 pm Post Subject: |
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| Looks like a lot of good doco's there satanzhand. Might have to miss TV for a a few days :lol: |
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satanzhand
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:14 pm Post Subject: It'll be better for you. |
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Check out my replies in the Salt and iodine post also...
freaky stuff. |
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satanzhand
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:19 pm Post Subject: its probably a good thing to link your research to this |
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| Google 'population control' also and things will become a little clearer why these types of things are around. |
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Carus
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:18 am Post Subject: |
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The video on Aspartame was an eye opener. It’s very sad and shocking that this product has been allowed to be added to foods for so long and to see the devastating effect it has had on some people’s lives. Also that people take the quantities of it that they do….. Some examples of people taking around ten drinks a day of things like Diet Coke and coffee with NutraSweet in large amounts. I wondered if they ever drank water??? No wonder the body is becoming diseased like it is with all this stuff being poured into it.
Also very interesting was the explanation of the chemical composition of Aspartame and how the scientists from G.D. Searle (initial owner of Aspartame) were shown saying (a good thirty years ago) how safe it was because the chemicals were present in foods naturally anyway. But, as was shown by many others, doctors and the like, it is the other things in the foods that are important. For example pectin is present with methanol alcohol in fruit and vegetables. I found a very good article on the web which describes it just as it did in the video
| Quote: | | Methanol (wood alcohol), which makes up 10% of aspartame and is highly toxic (adult minimum lethal dose is 2 teaspoons), is also found in some fruits & vegetables like tomatoes. However, methanol is never found in natural foods without ethanol & pectin, its "antidotes" if you will (detailed facts below). Ethanol & pectin prevent methanol from being metabolized into formaldehyde (embalming fluid) & formic acid (same chemical as fire ant venom), both deadly toxins. An ethanol drip is even the standard emergency room treatment for methanol poisoning. Aspartame contains no ethanol or pectin, therefore the methanol is converted to formaldehyde and formic acid. Phenylalanine and aspartic acid, the other 2 components of aspartame, are amino acids found in natural foods but always as part of long chains of many different amino acids to form complex protein molecules that take humans 12 hours to gradually break down & assimilate. According to the doctors below, when consumed by themselves these 2 amino acids require no digestion and quickly enter the brain & central nervous system at abnormally high levels, over stimulating brain cells to death and causing many other health problems. |
http://www.321recipes.com/aspartame.html
The scientists knew that the stuff was deadly in the seventies and there was a lot of questioning about scientific results and money was going around until Rumsfield became president of Searle.
A high level lawyer met with Donald Rumsfield in the late seventies when Searle was going down the tubes. He described Rumsfield as being “a very bright guy like in the best and the brightest…of the kind of people who brought us Vietnam…These are people who believe thinking is the primary way they should get through life…having values, feelings and so forth, they denigrate.”
It would appear that Aspartame went onto the market by political and legal means, regardless of all the facts and tests proving that it had the potential to kill people.
The implications of just this one issue are many in terms of everything else that is going on now..…GM foods, vaccinations, pharmaceuticals, bird flu, wars. That Rumsfield is now in the political position he is, plus others, raises serious questions about many of the things that go on in our world. |
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satanzhand
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:03 am Post Subject: hmm |
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It makes you fat too.
You will notice something at the supermarket nearly every FAT (large) person will have diet coke(or simlar) in there trolley...and or other diet foods or products which contain Aspartame. This is just an observation but it was also lab tested on rats and they where found to be nearly 50-80% fatter than the other rats who had no Aspartame in there diets....
There have also been many cases of people dropping dead after consuming large amounts of drinks containing Aspartame (eg.coke,power aid) the cause of death is from the methly alcohol which is deadly and cant be filtered out by the body. |
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Carus
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Just to add to the list of sweeteners, I came across an article today describing Splenda as A Poisonous Chlorocarbon. I noticed Splenda being advertised on TV lately on one of those good health type of ads. See what this article has to say about it...
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"Splenda/sucralose is simply chlorinated sugar; a chlorocarbon. Common chlorocarbons include carbon tetrachloride, trichlorethelene and methylene chloride, all deadly. Chlorine is nature's Doberman attack dog, a highly excitable, ferocious atomic element employed as a biocide in bleach, disinfectants, insecticide, WWI poison gas and hydrochloric acid. |
With these effects on the body:
| Quote: | | Dr. Bowen believes ingested chlorocarbon damage continues with the formation of other toxins: "Any chlorocarbons not directly excreted from the body intact can cause immense damage to the processes of human metabolism and, eventually, our internal organs. The liver is a detoxification organ which deals with ingested poisons. Chlorocarbons damage the hepatocytes, the liver's metabolic cells, and destroy them. In test animals Splenda produced swollen livers, as do all chlorocarbon poisons, and also calcified the kidneys of test animals in toxicity studies. The brain and nervous system are highly subject to metabolic toxicities and solvency damages by these chemicals. Their high solvency attacks the human nervous system and many other body systems including genetics and the immune function. Thus, chlorocarbon poisoning can cause cancer, birth defects, and immune system destruction. These are well known effects of Dioxin and PCBs which are known deadly chlorocarbons." |
Niiice :!: :sick:
See the full article here:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?s=a593de4ff8f07eaef22035658b80a703&showtopic=12869&view=getnewpost |
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satanzhand
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:40 am Post Subject: sucralose |
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| I have recently noticed "sucralose" turning up in all sorts of products which i would have normally thought aspartme would have been present, thanks for the heads up. |
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Carus
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:41 pm Post Subject: |
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| Really! What are the products generally? |
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satanzhand
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:24 pm Post Subject: products |
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| I can't remember the brands sorry , but two were water sports drinks the other was a brand of fruit bar. I don't eat processed food at all or watch TV so im not good on the brands |
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