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Azimuth
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John Anderson
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:50 pm Post Subject: |
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Hi Azimuth,
These articles are worth reading. It is absolutely amazing that such a facility could be constructed without a mention in the mainstream media especially that of the US or Israel, it's not as if they are hiding it or keeping people at a distance (like Area 51). It's half the size of Tel Aviv and not even at a particularly remote location. I guess there's more important things on people's minds.
Also interesting to juxtapose this with the recent request from Israel for an additional US$2.2 billion - and the CNN poll vote that was 93 percent against giving it to them with only seven percent favouring the aid... |
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Azimuth
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:50 pm Post Subject: |
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Hi John,
| Quote: | | Also interesting to juxtapose this with the recent request from Israel for an additional US$2.2 billion - and the CNN poll vote that was 93 percent against giving it to them with only seven percent favouring the aid... |
Good point.
In one of the articles a cost of $125,000,000 is mentioned. As correctly pointed out by the author of that article, this capital would not even cover the cost of the roading.
So where is all the money coming from, where is it going and for what purpose?
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Colin
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:02 am Post Subject: |
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Hiya Azimuth,
I found the articles you posted above to be very interesting.
Just as interesting perhaps are some of Jerry Golden's views as expressed in his website. I think God would be more than a little surprised to learn that He is apparently on Jerry's side!... Well, at least Jerry seems to think He is.
You're a great advertisement for Religion Jerry!
| Quote: | | Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel, and all the IDF soldiers. Pray for those who have come to fight the Islamic enemy. Pray for this Ministry and your part in it. Shalom, jerry golden |
| Quote: | | Allah (the Devil) is a god who demands the sacrificing of children as we now see daily here in Israel (so-called) Palestinians send their children to us with bombs wrapped around them. This Devil called Allah loves to see innocent women and children die in these attacks, and then watch the Moslem communities dance in the streets passing out candy in celebration. |
| Quote: | | Spain and Britain has now discovered that when you accept these Islamic devils into your society and offer them the same protections others have you discover that their religion is rooted in the pits of hell. |
| Quote: | | For that matter the entire Islamic world can go to hell and I am sure they will for their god Allah is the Devil. |
| Quote: | | To see the IDF fighting with Jews who only want to live in Israel in their own homes, homes promised them by God, to think it is our own Prime Minister who is ordering Jews to be removed from their homes as a reward to Islamic terrorism, is something I am struggling with to even accept as reality. |
Seems to me to be just a little hypocritical of Jerry to sign off from each of his articles with "Shalom". |
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Hieronymous Bosch
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John Anderson
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:03 pm Post Subject: |
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Maybe not a death wish as such, perhaps the opposite - everlasting life... Seeking salvation in a fiery Middle Eastern apocalypse.
This base may well be part of their preparation for Armageddon. The neocon/religious right coalition that control the US administration pray for a literal Armageddon, and they probably fantasise about it on a daily basis.
A full 59 percent of Americans polled say they believe in the apocalyptic events predicted in the Book of Revelations: when the Messiah returns on judgement day, believers will be lifted to glorious heaven while sinful non-believers will be "left behind" to do battle with the anti-Christ.
Probably the same percentage that through their dumb acquiescence are allowing the neocon/religious right to have their way with the world... |
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Hieronymous Bosch
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:01 am Post Subject: |
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| John Anderson wrote: | | Maybe not a death wish as such, perhaps the opposite - everlasting life... Seeking salvation in a fiery Middle Eastern apocalypse.. |
hi john,
the gnostic revelations: death to many is transhumanistic utopoia for some.
cheers-
hiero |
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Deano
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:47 am Post Subject: |
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Hi Guys,
As some of you may be aware Israel will withdraw from Gaza mid August and remove their settlements there. Massive pro-settler protests have already been thwarted to varying degrees. It is my personal opinion that what is being built is a large holding facility for their countrymen who may bring violent resistance to the protests when the withdrawl begins. |
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John Anderson
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:27 pm Post Subject: |
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Hi Hiero,
| Quote: | | death to many is transhumanistic utopoia for some. |
Isn't tranhumanism what Hitler was after? :shock: And he and many of his people died in a fiery apocalypse. Some have hypothesised that Hitler was actually inspired in life by Wagner's Ring tetralogy. Applying the principle of 'the end justifying the means', it sort of makes sense.
It is difficult to imagine the present middle Eastern situation as being anything other than about attaining oil, money and power, however, the neocons etc promoting these conflicts live in a very different world...
Deano,
| Quote: | | It is my personal opinion that what is being built is a large holding facility for their countrymen who may bring violent resistance to the protests when the withdrawal begins. |
Let's hope you are right and that is all the base is for. Personally I think it's for more than that. You don't need batteries of missiles and underground bunkers to defend a concentration camp. Time will tell all... |
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John Anderson
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A little bit of corroboration for the above...
| Quote: | The most compelling evidence of this "Guns of August" plan, LaRouche emphasized in discussions with colleagues, is the pattern of eyewitness reports of Dick Cheney's state of mind. Cheney is living out an American version of "Hitler in the bunker," lashing out at Republican Senators who have dared to resist his mad tirades, accusing anyone who fails to follow his orders—including senior members of the United States Senate—of being "traitors" and worse.
And finally, LaRouche identified a series of reports from highly qualified Congressional, military, and intelligence community sources, who have confirmed the essential features of the original American Conservative account of Cheney's Strangelove schemes for a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran. These sources have emphasized that these Iran plans are not merely military contingency studies, but represent the policy intentions of Cheney. |
Complete article here:
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2005/lar_pac/050727guns_august.html |
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