Mysteries, Chemtrails, Aerosols :: Mysterious NZ

[info4]

While outside enjoying the beautiful Auckland morning on Sunday 3rd June, my partner and I noticed some unusual looking clouds which we stopped to discuss. There was a band of very straight clouds that reminded me of chemtrails, hence why we stopped to observe them. There were also many other clouds of different formations that made the sky quite messy. Even wispy ones that looked like they were spiraling. During this we noticed a high altitude aircraft leaving a contrail behind it.



It was pretty much running parallel with the clouds we were looking at in a North-South direction then shortly after that we saw another aircraft at a much lower altitude that I thought I could recognize by the tail insignia as an Air Caledonian A310. This aircraft was clearly going to Auckland Airport while the other one must have been going to Wellington or Christchurch.

For the past couple of weeks I’ve been trying to find information about flights for inbound and outbound aircraft into NZ’s international airports. Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Queenstown are the only NZ international airports to my knowledge.

It’s proving to be quite difficult to find information about commercial travel in and out of NZ, the flight paths and heights and therefore directions that you would expect to see them. I have written to the Airways Corporation of NZ. They gave me some information but implied if I wanted any information in depth there is a minimum charge of $600.00.

Potentially I may be able to find out a lot more from sources within the industry because what I want to know is what or where are these anomalous flights going to as mentioned in numerous posts in this Forum.

There is a photograph of a chemtrail over Queenstown posted in the gallery. There are more questions than answers with this picture.



You wouldn’t expect to see a contrail, let alone a chemtrail, over Queenstown when the airport is IN Queenstown for the following reasons:

1. Commercial aircraft coming in or out of a destination don’t fly over 20,000 feet; they have to be a lot lower.
2. Contrails, I am told can only occur over 20,000 feet.

What direction was it going in?
If it’s East-West, where has it come from and where is it going to? There’s only ocean each side of NZ and aircraft don’t need to be at that height to go from one side to the other. Beyond that you have South America, which takes a bit of a round about course if going over Queenstown, or endless sea.

If it’s South-North that could mean its heading up to Auckland or even further North than that, to another country but where has it come from? Only Qantas and Air NZ fly to Queenstown.

If heading South the most likely destination would be Antarctica. Large military aircraft do fly to Antarctica but not commercial aircraft.

See link here:
http://www.tamug.edu/labb/Projects/Weddell/McM2001/Travel_South/Travel_to_Antarctica.htm

So if Antarctica is the destination, where did it leave from? Christchurch is where many aircraft leave from but that’s on the other side of the island and it couldn’t be from there. What we need to find out is what the flight paths for aircraft within NZ are so we can determine all of the anomalous flights. Then I would love to have a photograph of one of these aircraft to enlarge to see what they might be.

We need to start looking at the bigger picture here. We need to ask ourselves the question, if a chemtrail is being laid, where is my location in relation to the closest airport as only jet powered aircraft can do this. If we can start getting an idea of what the normal flight paths are and which are not, it will be helpful.

If anybody down in the deep south could see these chemtrails I would be really interested to hear/see the results.

[Melody Anderson]

Charles from the USA, who submitted the Queenstown photograph said this about his location at the time:

"we got this one above the gondola, downtown!!!!!!!"

I haven't been to Queenstown, but anyone who knows the area, should be able to easily ascertain the direction the trail in his photo is going.
http://www.skyline.co.nz/queenstown/gondola/

[John Anderson]

Hi Info4,

The Gondola complex is situated on Bob's Peak. This is almost exactly due West from downtown Queenstown, so the trail itself would be roughly West/East or East/West.as best as I can judge from Charles' pic...



Regards

[info4]

Thanks John

Now that is interesting :!:

I don't know too many airports west or east of Queenstown :-k

Where did it come from and where is it going :?:

Like I said earlier this photo poses many questions and the direction as you have indicated just confirms it

[Hieronymous Bosch]

info4,
exactly! i had posted this same conundrum on another thread a few weeks ago:


but... now let's look at a simple veritable observation.. readily available to us kiwis.. (more so than say americans or canadians).... flight vectors at altitudes that make absolutely no sense commercially or militarily...

look at the photo gallery picture of man with chemtrail behind him in queenstown... the ct appears to go directly over the gondola.. the man (presumably) is standing in the center of queenstown (based on visual cues).. this would make the ct trending northwest/southeast in the general compass rose...

ok... a craft at 30K feet over queenstown.. travelling in a nortwest to southeast vector???? hmm... the all popular "Haast to Port Molyneaux" commercial service... come on! this is where observational data can reveal that these flights are military in origin... if we extrapolate out it gets even sillier.. ok.. the hobart to antarctica ice shelf non-stop service? hope they at least get "warm" peanuts on that flight!..

notwithstanding.. does the nz airforce have the resources to fly all these sorties around new zealand?.. going from nowhere to nowhere? do the australians? why would they be flying these routes?

napier.. another good example.. there is a photo of ct activity over napier... ok, where are these flights going.. look at an airline vector map.. or simply.. a road map... unless the air new zealand or qantas nz pilot tippled a few too many at "the bach" bar at auckland airport and lost their way to wgtn/chch or dunedin, then again.. it's military.. not commercial.

[info4]

Hi Hieronymous
I did read your post awhile back.
In regard to the NZ Air-force they only have 2 757's so I wouldn't think it was them.

But the USAF I couldn't say, and in a round about way that is what I'm implying when mentioning Antarctica. It sure wouldn't surprise me to see it is their aircraft, hence the desire for good photos so we can blow up and have a good look