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hadleigh
Joined: 27 Feb 2005
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Location: Wanganui
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:51 pm Post Subject: Chemtrails blowing out to sea |
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Today I saw something I haven't seen before.
There were chemtrails sprayed where I usually see them. ( off the lower west coast between the area just north of Wanganui down toward the South )
But today the wind is a south easterly, so the trails that I saw were blown out to sea rather than over land.
One trail when I saw them was perhaps 30 minuites old and the second had been freshly sprayed. There were only the two.
Has anyone else seen chemtrails blowing away from land?
One possibility I can think of, is they are preparing (building up) a western horizon sunsreen for late afternoon. |
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Deano
Joined: 22 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:17 pm Post Subject: |
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| Good spotting hadleigh, did you notice that around 5pm all the surrounding sky was dark and cloudy but the coast area was orangey red. Seemed like a fairly selective sunset. Didnt spot the trails but the colour of that area didnt look right. |
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Hieronymous Bosch
Joined: 09 Jun 2005
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Location: Christchurch
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:28 pm Post Subject: |
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hadleigh/deano,
yes... have a look at my post today re: christchurch ct. the northeast vectoring spray plane today would have put those trails off the lower north island/wanganui.. by early this afternoon.
...and with the southeasterly you had there... (we had a slight east/northeasterly here).. the cts would have been blow out to the tasman...
...but...look at the current nz weather radar.. there is a large front approaching (about 200 km) west of new zealand in the tasman... this seems to be the consistent factor... trails laid along the edge of proceeding cold front approaching from the south and west.??
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lyra
Joined: 21 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:06 pm Post Subject: |
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| I noticed a nice rainbow ring round the moon last night (West Auckland).... Dont normally see that. Maybe tied in? |
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hadleigh
Joined: 27 Feb 2005
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Location: Wanganui
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:07 am Post Subject: Something else |
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I noticed something else I haven't seen before.
Yesterday, thursday, there was a whether front blowing over from the East with cloud formations at the head of it which could very well have been chemtrails. That's hard to say for sure tho. But at the same time another whether front at what seemed to be a higher altitude was blowing onshore from the west with definate chemtrail activity at it's head. The spraying began before midday and continued at the front slowly came overland. I heard the sound of what could have been an airforce helecopter and saw one bright yellow airforce CT4 . Wheather they were directly connected to the spraying and monitoring the effects...I can't say. But when I see obvious aerosol activity and our airforce out and about at the same time I always wonder. |
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John Anderson
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:55 pm Post Subject: |
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Hadleigh,
Have been giving your question some consideration...
| Quote: | | Has anyone else seen Chemtrails blowing away from land? |
In Marlborough we've seen them blowing over the sounds and out to sea, but of course they soon end up over Wellington etc...
In the far North, on the East Coast around Doubtless and Great Exhibition Bays the resulting false cirrus was definitely heading out to sea. We've also seen Chemtrails laid in random patterns off Ninety Mile beach on the West coast which drifted across the land (barely 10 kms wide there) and headed out to sea off the East Coast. What does all this mean – other than that there is a general pattern of them drifting over land… :?
The posts referring to low altitude small aircraft activity under trails is most interesting and it would not surprise us to learn that the NZ military or certain Gov’t departments are closely monitoring trail activity. We know that one Gov’t agency has at least one staff member studying the persistent trail phenomenen…
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Tim Rose
Joined: 17 Mar 2005
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:18 pm Post Subject: |
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Hello John,
You said
| Quote: | | We know that one Gov’t agency has at least one staff member studying the persistent trail phenomenen… |
Can you disclose which agency is studying this CT activity? Does that mean that they are overseeing the activity or that they are, like us, observing an unknown third party conducting the CTs?
When I contacted the NZ Dept of internal affairs about CTs they palmed the issue off to the Dept for Environment. I did not follow up the Dept of Environment as I suspected that they would not acknowledge the CT issue.
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Tim |
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John Anderson
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:46 pm Post Subject: |
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Hi Tim,
The agency refered to was NIWA, they are actually a New Zealand Crown Research Institute, I guess that makes them an 'agency'. :)
One of our correspondents, who was doing some research on the official take on contrails, advised us:
| Quote: | | ...they informed me they were doing "contrail research" and that my email had been forwarded to the appropriate person. |
Then latter:
| Quote: | | As soon as I mentioned this site I got a reply saying that "he" was mistaken, that there is no research being conducted into "contrails" - now I can not get a reply from the guy... |
That's basically all we know at this point.
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Tim Rose
Joined: 17 Mar 2005
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:13 pm Post Subject: |
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Thanks John
So it would appear that the issue is intentionally being 'kept under wraps' from too many prying eyes. Makes things difficult when one attempts to get some truth on the CT activity.
Tim |
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John Anderson
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:28 pm Post Subject: |
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Tim,
| Quote: | | So it would appear that the issue is intentionally being 'kept under wraps' from too many prying eyes. Makes things difficult when one attempts to get some truth on the CT activity. |
Yes it would appear that no one in any official capacity will want to be seen taking an interest in this issue. Political parties will not touch it with the proverbial barge pole. They may well have been warned off or succumbed to some behind the scenes disinformation such as;
'...this programme is for the good of the world and must be done for humanity to survive, but if the public become aware of the extent of what we're doing and the desperate neccessity for it they will panic and society will break down...'
Or something like that.
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Tim Rose
Joined: 17 Mar 2005
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:48 pm Post Subject: |
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It is a similar scenario with Et and Alien disclosure and the like. I guess that it is one approach to deliberately not inform people, but I personally would prefer more of an educational approach, instead of them assuming us all dummies who are only to be told as much as they think we should know. It would seem that IF the natural environment around us is in such bad shape that some section of society has decided that they have to take drastic measures such as artificially attempting to alter weather patterns, then they are trying to solve a problem with the same consciousness that is creating the problem in the first place. It would be better to start giving people a broader educational and lifestyle system so that they can understand that their way of living comes with a price tag to the natural environment around them. Nature has subtle laws, which, if not followed, means reactions. But, where does one get taught this nowadays? :-k
Tim |
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