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[kingnh]

Hello All

I have just readthe following article on stuff:

Resthomes warned as mystery bugs plague capital schools
25 May 2005

Health authorities will be contacting resthomes in Wellington to warn them about two mystery bugs circulating in the city's primary schools, but say closing schools down for a day would be unlikely to slow the spread of the diseases.

(full article http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3292322a10,00.html )

I have a niece & nephew who had this illness straight after receiving the vaccine???

Needless to say they will not be contining the corse of injections.

[Melody Anderson]

We saw an item on the news last night about this and pricked up our ears. The fact that it occurred directly after vaccination is indeed interesting and not something mentioned in the news.

You are obviously implying that there may be some sort of connection... Are your niece and nephew pupils at the school mentioned or did any of their schoolmates who have had the vaccination experience the same illness directly afterward?

[kingnh]

[Melody Anderson]

Yes it is curious. The News today talks about 12 pupils out of 400 turning up for school at St Mark's! I don't know whether I have heard of anything quite this dramatic before - certainly the principal of St Marks who has been a teacher for over 20 years, says she has never seen anything like it. Other schools are apparently experiencing similar circumstances. I wonder about the cooincidence aspect with the vaccinations. I take it the vaccination programme has been right through the affected areas recently? This might not explain the illness of some of the staff who have also apparently been affected though.

They also say that schools in Nelson are experiencing similar effects. Have a read of the info about synergistic toxicity on the Meningococcal Vaccination - Not what it seems thread:

https://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?t=147

Don't know if this could be any kind of factor or not - the Nelson and Wellington areas seem to be areas of high chemtrail activity. The official government web site states what is contained in the MeNZB Vaccine:

[Melody Anderson]

:?: I am curious, Kingnh, do you experience any backlash from other parents for making your stand about not vaccinating your child - or do you think that people are becoming more informed and concerned about the issue and that non-vaccination is becoming more acceptable?

This thing seems to depend on the guilt factor - that you're a bad parent, if you don't immunise your kids... :?

[kingnh]

Hi Melody,

My wife and I have made this decision based on ALL the information available to us (not just what the government makes available). Our daughter is a teenager and we were able to discuss this with her as well. We are all happy with this decision. Other parents that I have discussed this with thus far have all reacted positively (to my face) and to be honest if anything all this illness confirms to us that we made the right decision.

[Melody Anderson]

Good to hear that responses have been positive. :-)

[Carus]

Here's an informative NZ web site on immunisation and vaccinations:

http://www.ias.org.nz/

There is a fact sheet for Meningococcal Meningitus under the menu Vaccine Information.

[kingnh]

Thanks Carus some informative resources available at that site, its a pity this information isnt distributed as much as their tripe!

[Melody Anderson]

Looks like Russell Brown saw more than a passing association between the Meningococcal Vaccine programme and the huge numbers of kids off sick from school (including his own kids). In his web log of the 27th, he voiced his concerns in his 'influential weblog'.

http://www.publicaddress.net/default,2201.sm#post2201

National Radio did a followup with him yesterday and it appears he received a 'ticking off', (from a weblog reader) as he puts it, for his statements:

[Deano]

Correct me if im wrong but doesnt the vaccine contain the viruses that will be prevalent in a weakened dose so that you can build antibodies too the particular strains and in effect they are giving you the very bugs you are wanting protection from.

[Melody Anderson]

[Deano]

The flu jab they are giving out in NZ now has 3 different strains of virus in it. Im pretty sure of this as the reason the NZ gov werent wanting it was because one of the three virus strains was too diluted and would be ineffective in developing enough antibodies to that particular strain.

[Carus]

Hi all,

[joan]

Hi Deano,

Like you, I have understood (in a somewhat vague manner as I haven't taken much interest in vaccinations in the past) that flu, or other injections, were supposed to create the antibodies necessary to combat the particular disease

But with the publicity given to the flu and meningococcal vaccinations in the media, I have decided to seek information about this whole area - so have been reading articles from the sites mentioned above. They make disturbing reading and it now seems vitally necessary that we inform ourselves about anything "foreign" being introduced into our bodies. We need to know about what is being injected or prescribed for us, so that we can make an informed choice and be responsible for our own health.

[hadleigh]

Our daughter was the only child at her school not to get the immunisation jab. No one seems to mind at all.
I'd done some reading on the subject of vacine additives and preservatives murcury, aluminium etc...and the links to autism and so on in the Nexus magazine.
Our kids are given homeopathic constitutional treatment.
My understanding of that is that the child takes a homeopathic tablet once every three months, which has been chosen for them by the Homeopath and their health, strength, resistance to infection etc is kept high and dry. It dosn't garantee they wont catch colds, but they will sail through anything they do get.

[Deano]

Hi Joan,

Yes its very important to keep yourself informed about what you are ingesting. I seriously recommend you study vitamins, minerals and herbal supplements. There is very little investment going into research for cures to humankinds ailments and diseases. The bulk of the funds are for researching and developing drugs that treat you after you become sick. There can be no profit from a healthy person.

[Carus]

I see there is a web site just out, started by a Wellington mother of three addressing the Meningococcal B vaccine programme currently underway in New Zealand:-

http://www.menzbchoice.com/index.php

[Melody Anderson]

Uproar puts more jab campaigns 'at risk'
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3317552a7144,00.html

[Carus]

I'm feeling angry :x about the Heath Ministry's public address which I've read on Scoop. They say:

"New Zealand has an epidemic of a specific strain of group B meningococcal disease. There is no room for complacency. Disease rates are three times the rate considered an epidemic by the World Health Organization. Since the epidemic began in 1991 meningococcal disease has caused more than 5700 cases, 231 deaths and left many people with permanent damage. The epidemic strain has caused about three in every four of these cases."
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/GE0506/S00082.htm

I consider this to be a blatent misuse of the word "epidemic". Here are some dictionary meanings of an epidemic:

[Carus]

Further to my post above about the word "epidemic", yesterday Scoop put up a press release from Barbara Sumner Burstyn entitled MOH Lies about WHO Epidemic Definition.

Here's what the WHO had to say:

[joan]

The NZ Herald today carried this article.

" 08.07.05
Jab campaigns use 'fear tactics' says expert

An immunisation expert says public health officials have used fear tactics in the media to promote the meningococcal B vaccination.

Dr Nikki Turner, director of the Immunisation Advisory Centre, said both pro and anti-immunisation camps used fear to promote their viewpoints. She believed the tactic was valid provided it was honest and appropriate to the issue. The ministry's campaign for meningococcal B had focused narrowly on the disease and the urgency of the issue.

"I think it's realistic, working in health we are scared of certain diseases," she said. "I think fear is implicit in a lot of health. Part of health is the fear of not being healthy and the fear of catching a disease is what would motivate us to vaccinate."

In contrast, anti-immunisation groups tended to take a broad approach, looking at the risk of the vaccine, generalised to "conspiracies", anti-Government and anti-science messages.

Dr Turner, who will speak today at the Public Health Association conference on fear in the print media in the lead up to, and during the meningococcal B campaign, said some people had chosen not to vaccinate their children after reading articles in the media.

"There are people who have chosen not to vaccinate, which is fine but there are people who have chosen that based on misinformation or misunderstood fear."

Dr Turner and colleagues' provisional analysis of 2295 articles published in 2004 and the first half of 2005 found about 50 per cent were supportive of the campaign, 40 per cent were neutral and informational and 10 per cent were negative.

In some cases a well-balanced story was accompanied by a headline that was misleading or wrong.

Further analysis would extend to other forms of media and try to establish whether there was a relationship between what was represented in the media and immunisation coverage.

Dr Jane O'Hallahan, director of the Meningococcal Immunisation Programme, said the ministry did not intentionally use fear but some people might fear what they saw or heard about the disease. Fear was a natural reaction to a threat.

"Any parent, survivor or health professional who has dealt with meningococcal disease knows this is a fearsome disease."

Meningitis

The total number of notified cases for 2005 is 118 with seven deaths.

Not all of the cases are due to the same strain that the vaccine is designed to protect against.

The average number of cases per year for the past five years over the same time period is 207.

Before the start of the epidemic in 1991 around 60 cases were reported each year Source: Ministry of Health "

Nikki Turner believed the fear tactic was valid provided it was honest and appropriate to the issue :!:

How can an honest decision be made based on fear. :x

Joan

[Melody Anderson]

[Carus]