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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:50 pm Post Subject: Welcome - What can you do to Help?
Hi Everyone,
Welcome to our forums :-) We hope we can get a bit of a reporting community going here.
We know that there are people all around New Zealand seeing these chemtrails and persistent contrails and are even taking photographs and video and have been doing so for some time. We also know that people who see them and acknowledge that they are being systematically formed in our skies, feel a definite sense of unease about the motives and possible agendas behind this activity. It seems incomprehensible that this could be happening out in the open without comment. A little research shows that the activity is allowed to continue because of the silence of those who see them and are too frightened to take action or who feel that their power as an individual is not up to the task of taking on whoever is responsible for the program (which obviously requires a massive co-ordinated effort, massive financing and massive influence over governments the world over).
We had someone say something interesting to us last night. We received a call from a contact in Sydney (http://www.poisonplanes.com) who said that if you know this is going on and are aware of the implications, having researched this and informed yourself of its various effects, yet remain silent, you become an agent for 'them'.
We understand that it takes a lot to overcome the temptation to remain silent and the hope that it will go away. Well it's not going to go away. In fact, it is likely to become more and more prevalent and more and more brazen, as it has in the US and Europe.
Not everyone can stick their head up and be a spokesperson. Not everyone has that kind of confidence. But you can report what you see in the skies above you to these forums and you can share your experiences here - anonymously if you prefer. You can help to raise awareness here in New Zealand.
New Zealanders have proven that they can say no to world powers and say no to the military might of those entities. This hasn't yet gone too far. We still enjoy beautiful blue skies in this country.
If you have photographs of these activities, please upload them to our visitor gallery: (http://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/photogallery/). If you have a story to tell, experiences to report on, knowledge of regular activity occuring in your area, please get involved and help to get the word out...
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John and Melody Anderson
(Mysterious New Zealand)
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:00 pm Post Subject: CHEMTRAILS
Its good to see some people taking an intrest in the chemtrails (not contrails)
The trails are an enigma and i dont think anyone knows for sure what is going on except that it is a huge program worldwide. Theories range from weather control experiments, population control experiments, population vaccination and even a plan to reflect a percentage of the suns rays to slow down runaway global warming. I arnt willing to accept any of these just yet but something is definately going on and i dont think it has our wellbeing at heart
It would seem that not a lot of people in New Zealand are aware of this worldwide program, particularly that is indeed going here. We hope that together we can do something to raise awareness.
We don't really want to get sidetracked into the area of contrails, however, in some areas, it seems that there has been a recently flurry of very large persistent and in some cases, spreading, contrails appearing, where previously they had not been seen.
While it is by no means evidence of chemtrails - we have no way of knowing if many of the large contrails seen are chemtrails or not, we suspect that perhaps they could be a precursor to something else or they could indicate that something in the atmosphere or aircraft fuel has changed to encourage the formation of these trails.
These trails are nevertheless polluting our pristine skies and who knows what else...
here is where i get most of my info on chemtrails and building orgonite devices and Chembusters, I have built a chembuster and now there is a virtually permanent circle of blue sky above our house, very convincing effect so far... If u build one big enough it will cover an area of several miles... The Chemtrail problem has been vitually eliminated in many areas of the USA now thanks to the work of people building these devices and putting them in thier back yard, Wilheim Reich invented the first Cloudbuster which uses a type of etheric energy, chi or prana -universal cosmic odic force, known by many terms this energy can be directed by thought and has been scientifcally validated as a real phenomenom, it is amplified by quartz crystals and info is at this address for construction of a chembuster, a modified version of a cloudbuster. These devices work, they are safe and they are at the cutting edge of a type of modern magical science (but not widely published science).
Orgonite works by conbining organic and in-organic substances in a matrix that push and pull etheric energy and clean the atmosphere in the process...
ps: this site is rather strange to those not familiar with the purposes of these chemtrails , the suppression of human evolution is what its all about, people are been born with new dna strands and "junk" dna is been activated in people all over the world, junk dna is a lie, there is no junk dna, just dna that is switched off, its now been switched back on and this is an attempt by the powers that be to suppress that change in us. The few can only control the many if the many are sheep asleep. The sleepwalkers (humans) are waking up and they cant allow that to happen.... im not saying i agree with averything on eduacate-yourself website but the satanic nature of these people in power cannot be ignored... it helps to explain this desperate attempt to stop us from becomming what we once were, humans dna was tampered with long ago to create the race of idiots we have today, why would we use only 10% of our brains, it doesnt make sense, no other animal on the planet has the under-utilisation of brain power..only humans have this big brain percentage that isnt usued, well it used to be....
this site link above has links to many articles, ideas on device construction and towards the bottom details on how to make your own Chembuster plus good photos of the construction...
I am putting together a tutorial of my own ..will post once this is done...
jason
Ps: to get the materials needed for those in wellington area, there are metal shops in Petone who will give u buckets of metal shavings etc for free, plus the metal recyclers in wellington cbd just off cortney place sell 1 inch copper pipe real cheap, have fun and enjoy!!!!!!! Christophers Crystals in cuba st for the double terminated quartz...
If anyone in wellington area would like to meet up or view my Chembuster in the Brooklyn area then contact me on email... :>
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Posts: 43
Location: Levin, New Zealand
Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:53 pm Post Subject: Re: CHEMTRAILS
Deano wrote:
Its good to see some people taking an intrest in the chemtrails (not contrails)
The trails are an enigma and i dont think anyone knows for sure what is going on except that it is a huge program worldwide. Theories range from weather control experiments, population control experiments, population vaccination and even a plan to reflect a percentage of the suns rays to slow down runaway global warming. I arnt willing to accept any of these just yet but something is definately going on and i dont think it has our wellbeing at heart
Fight the good fight
Deano,
Interesting comments!
Like you, and many others obviously, I'm not prepared to accept these explanations
If they were as innocent, or even 'positive' as these possibilities might suggest, then WHY haven't we been told about it?
There would be nothing to be secretive about would there?
Am I a cynic, naive, or plain stupid?? I can't be all of these :?
Pamela
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 140
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 2:33 pm Post Subject:
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Am I a cynic, naive, or plain stupid?? I can't be all of these
Hi Pamela,
If you are.. then there is a lot of us here! :lol: There is definitely something very odd going on. I can't explain it, but together we can begin to demand an explanation.
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Posts: 43
Location: Levin, New Zealand
Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 3:29 pm Post Subject:
Colin wrote:
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Am I a cynic, naive, or plain stupid?? I can't be all of these
Hi Pamela,
If you are.. then there is a lot of us here! :lol: There is definitely something very odd going on. I can't explain it, but together we can begin to demand an explanation.
Thanks Colin!
It's nice to be free to discuss these things - at least we still have sufficient autonomy to own and use computers and link up with other concerned folk.
We can endeavour to gather sufficient reliable information to enable an approach to be made somewhere to educate and warn the wider community.
BUT the time has to be right, and as someone else commented, we don't want this chance to be blown by making the wrong approach.
Meanwhile, I'll keep an eye on the sky rather than burying my head in the sand :!:
I used to think the chemtrails were just plane exhaust emissions until I started watching a little closer and a little longer. What convinced me the most that something dodgy is going on is that on several occasions I have seen them "flick the switch" on the sprayer in mid air. This convinced me 100% that they are spraying something. I have also seen a very quick plane do a spray run and return after 10 minutes or so going very slowly back, almost cruising, observing the trails. Was the same looking aircraft.
One bonus is New Zealands erratic weather. We would be getting more trails dumped on us if we had clear still days like the U.S gets.
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 140
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 9:04 pm Post Subject: One bonus is New Zealand's erratic weather.
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One bonus is New Zealand's erratic weather. We would be getting more trails dumped on us if we had clear still days like the U.S gets.
Gee, I dunno about that Deano! :?:
Have a look at some of John's posts about his theory that they lay the trails off the coast and let the prevailing winds spread the CT over populated and inland areas. It does seem to be the way the do it up here over the skinny Auckland isthmus. In this way, the population does not become so aware of the aircraft activity.
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:39 am Post Subject: They wont listen
I have taken hundreds of photos of chemy's in the waikato for the past 3 years. I have spoken to the new zealand defense corp. in wellington but could only get to speak to some retard at the help desk who told me that planes spraying chemicals has nothing to do with the defense of new zealand. I have also rung air force bases and have still only got as far as some no nothing idiot, I organized a meeting between myself and enviroment waikato, the guy who I spoke to who I wont name yet sweated up a storm when I showed him my photos and yet his response was " I don't have the time to look into it, but you can if you want ".
I then went to speak to a guy from NIWA who turned out to be a nutter he told me that he had been photographing these " contrails " and finds them a wonderful source of ammusement he loves clouds and thinks these are just neat clouds.
I think the only way to get our information out to the public is a mass distrabution of clifford.e.carnicoms dvd and posters, all we need is a few people in each main city to do a huge drop. I'f anyone has some ideas on how to go about it or anyone with access to a plane so we ourselves can taken samples please email me Hoss-Magnum@hotmail.com
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
Posts: 814
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:30 pm Post Subject:
Hi and welcome Hoss (you're our 100th sign on) :blballoon:
I think it's very significant that your Environment Waikato contact felt the impact of your pictures and was able to recognise the implications and unfortunate that your guy from NIWA did not. I should think NIWA should be very concerned, particularly from the point of view of contrail pollution and aircraft contributing to global dimming...
John and Melody (August 27th 2006) wrote:
And, perhaps surprisingly, it is not always the speculation about 'chemical spraying' at the forefront of their minds. We have many contacts from people who are concerned about the impact of contrails as pollution (not all of them choose to take part in this forum). This is an aspect, along with grave fears about the resulting global dimming and its potential impact on the warming of the earth, not without some concerned mainstream backing. Recently, we reported on an article on the BBC web site where astronomers were predicting that the effects of contrail cirrus were becoming so serious, that “ground-based astronomy could be impossible in 40 years because of pollution from aircraft exhaust trails and climate change”.
https://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?t=647
People will be more readily able to accept that aircraft activity is having impact on the environment by making the Earth more cloudy... The idea of deliberate operations involving the dispersal of chemicals is a lot more difficult to address and certainly much more difficult to prove conclusively. The fact that the contrails are observable and now plentiful can be affirmed very simply.
Possibly though, officialdom in this country would be reluctant to discuss the issue even simply on the terms of the environmental impact of increased cloudiness due to the growing incidence of contrail cirrus, because it would naturally link itself to the chemtrail issue...
