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Melody Anderson

March 20th 2005 - Around 12:30pm - Auckland

Having landed at Auckland Airport we had just returned from a trip to Blenheim, collected our baggage and made our way out the main exit of the Qantas/Origin Pacific domestic terminal. Directly in front of us we saw a massive contrail forming. Naturally, we had the camera on hand and began photographing it, as it rose over the main control tower.

A bystander near us commented: "I wonder where he's going?!"

Over the next half hour we watched the contrail grow and spread. It should be possible to work out its direction of origin and its destination, given the runway is a known factor...

Will post a report (and photos) maybe tomorrow and what we saw in Marlborough whilst down there....

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Melody,

this is a very impressive photo. What was it's direction of travel by the way?
Seems awfully low too!

Azimuth

John and Melody · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 39

We are going to work out direction tomorrow. We want to look at a map and look at the position of the tower and the direction of the runway etc before making an call on this.... Just to need to relax a bit tonight.

Have hundreds of photos to download for our client too...

:D Yeah it is a nice photo eh?!

Carus · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Auckland

We saw this one too as it was happening when we went out to go into town at 12.30pm. Yay - we took our camera! Pics now in gallery.

Seemed to be going North to South and very quickly at that. Very clear in the sky. We were watching people at the traffic lights to see if anyone else noticed but they didn't seem too. Just life as usual :roll:

Carus

lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

I saw this one yesterday. I didnt see the plane but figured that it was heading north as the trail seemed more spread at the southern end.
The trail seemed quite low as I watched a 767 on a normal approach to Auckland airport cross what seemed to be below it but not by much....(I know its hard to tell but thats what it seemed like...)

John Anderson · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:52 pm Post Subject:

Yes, it was probably heading about North to South. From some of our pics, the orientation of the runway can be clearly seen, so when I get some free moments I'll try to work out direction. It does not seem though, that it's an anomalous course. What we are really interested in, is those that are coming from nowhere - and going to nowhere. This one did seem lower than it should have been to make such a persistant trail...

Regards

lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

The thing that I don't get is the plane flew over the airport. What are the air regulations in regard to international flights flying over populated areas? The aircraft in the image (the image with the aircraft enlarged) looks like a large twin engine jet and if its headed north to south its got to be international unless its heading back to where it took off from down country… what do air traffic control say?

info4 · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 165

I saw this as well. It was clearly moving in a southerly direction. I saw the aircraft actually laying the trail so I can confirm this.

Lyra asks

lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

thanks for that info4.
I'm not sure if you saw the early morning (say 7.25 am) trail that was left either last week but I think 2 weeks ago. I was on the bus heading into work when a woman in seat in front of me said "look out the window'. the trail was similar to yesterdays one and also like the march 12 one. She said it looked like a missle which got everyone on the bus pretty excited. I didnt see the plane itself but whatever was leaving the trail was hiking. There seems to be a lot of activity so far this year in AK. One interesting point is yesterday was the round the bays race and March 12 was the pacifika festival, dont want to sound like a freak here but though it was worth noting...

info4 · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 165

Interesting connection you make about lots of people. Who knows?

We also saw one on Friday evening while out visiting. The trail was in a similar location as the Sunday AM one, except we didnt see it being created.

Keep looking I say and it would be interesting to find out how others you know feel about this subject?

lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

It seems to me that most people dont want to know about this kind of thing. Its a plane and sometimes they just do that.... I've got good views of the north sky from home and work so will post anything interesting that shows up.

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Hi Lyra and welcome. Tis my experiences also that people just don't want to know. In fact yesterday I had family and friends around and the topic of the weather in general was initiated by someone.

I let loose with a few facts and figures (not mentioning Chems at all) I had at hand through some research I had been doing about the environment. Not one of them was really interested.

I get the distinct feeling that if people don't feel "immediately or directly" affected by such things then it is of little concern to them.

Goodness knows what they thought when I pulled out the camera and started photographing a chemtrail nearby.

Keep Looking Up
Azimuth

lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

Thanks Azimuth.... Yeah - its one of those things that is a bit too x-files I think. If it made it on to the news here it would be a "smirky story" - like the Mexican air force ufo videos last year... Here are these amazing images from an air force crew and the story was introduced with the old smirk as if there was a completely logical explanation for the ufo's but they just didn't want to share the secret with the viewing public. Its sites like this which will promote discussion and debate which will hopefully enlighten all of us here...

John Anderson · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:20 pm Post Subject:

Hello Lyra,

Yes, the Mexican air force UFO videos are a good example of the approach the media takes to such subjects. Not only the mainstream media, but also Science, the educational institutes and authority of all kinds, Government and otherwise. Bear in mind this, they have to dismiss this stuff, they have to. They are protecting a paradigm that is everything to them, everything. You only need one UFO report to be absolutely verified and the paradigm is shattered, Chaos and the end of the world as they know it. Some of these paradigm protectors are in the know, of course, and having esoteric knowledge is part of their Paradigm, like a superiority and power that they would lose if everybody were party to the truth. A study of the esoterica and exoterica of the Catholic Church can be very rewarding for an understanding of this phenomena...

Chemtrails and the existence of them are the same. If there were incontrovertible and acceptable proof that someone was spraying this stuff with or without our government's knowledge and it was say, effecting the health of the citizens, there would be a great shattering, not to mention the reaction from the public. Nothing would be the same.

So when the aims of this site are considered, we seem to be up against it, but in our favour is that these aforementioned paradigms are in fact very vulnerable, much like a house of cards - and that is why they have to defend in the way they do. And mirth, pouring scorn on the UFO or Chemtrail witnesses is a favourite and early line of defence (if ignoring doesn't work), as it's so easy to do. No one likes to be laughed at and most people enjoy a laugh at someone else's expense...

Regards

lyra · Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 64

Well said John, I couldnt agree more. I'm interested in your comments re the catholic church so will look at picking up some info there. I've got to say i'm impressed with the exotic aircraft images from the Blenheim trails of 2003. Looks like you got a nice triangle there. Were the craft visable at the time???

John Anderson · Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:14 pm Post Subject:

Hi again Lyra,

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Hi guys,

John and melody, I've been giving a bit of thought to the contrail you so wonderfully photographed over Auckland Airport and presented here for all to see.

My thought about this Chemtrail is:

If the offending mode of transport, in this case a jet was substantially smaller and lets say had no wings. Now lets take this modified jet and have him drive up and down the Southern Motorway for a while forming a wonderful contrail from Mangere to Papakura.

What would happen?

I hazard a guess you would be chased down by every Policeman in South Auckland and arrested, fined and attract the ire of every Greeny and well intentioned citizen on or near the motorway. Your vehicle would be impounded. Jeez you’d probably even make the Six o’clock news and if not apprehended would make the Top Ten most wanted list. Parliament may even consider retrospectively reintroducing capital punishment.

Apparently, add a couple of wings to your mode of transport, call it a plane and once your wheels leave the ground you are exempt from criticism. Any resulting pollution in considered a normal by-product of air travel and is acceptable, jeez most people don’t even take a second look. God forbid if you speak out and say “hang on a minute perhaps this is not normal or acceptable” you could find yourself relegated to the Loony Left field very quickly.

Just my opinion.

Keep Looking Up
Azimuth

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Melody Anderson · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:59 pm Post Subject:

We had an email from an acquaintance this weekend reporting what would seem to be this same long persistent contrail on Sunday the 20th of March:

"I was doing surfing last weekend at an east coast beach near Warkworth when I saw this massive jet plane in the sky. We all watched it far overhead making a long chemtrail in utter amazement. It went from one horizon to the next in a completely blue cloudless sky. I have never seen anything like it in my life...The trail went from north to south occurring in the dome of the atmosphere. As it came from the north it looked as if the plane was going straight up in the sky. As it went to the south it looked as if the plane was diving straight down into the ground. As it passed directly overhead it looked as if the plane was extremely high up in the stratosphere. ACTUALLY, it was a bit frightening, all the people on the beach were looking up in amazement, like a scene out of '1984'."

He confirmed the timing of early afternoon, consistent with the other sightings and that it lingered and spread.

The bolding is my emphasis. This person is 58 years and well travelled, is a lover of nature and spends a great deal of time outdoors - even having sailed solo to Indonesia in a homemade vessel. Yet this is the first contrail of this kind he has ever seen in his entire life. Once again, the official line of 'nothing has changed, aircraft have always been leaving contrails like this' just doesn't stack up.

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Hi guys,

Could this be one in the same CT.? I photographed this on 20 Mar 05 at 1233hrs, it was many miles east of my location. There are two chems in the image, one central and the other in the upper cloud. Unfortunately I did not see the event just the result so can only guess at the direction of travel.

I am guessing from North to South and I base that on many sighting in the same area, the majority of which are in that direction.

Seems we have one large CT with several witnesses or several CTs with independent witnesses for each.

Keep Looking Up
Azimuth

Melody Anderson · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:48 pm Post Subject:

Azimuth · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 318

Hi Melody,

Melody Anderson · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:58 pm Post Subject:

Yes, excellent post...