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Crakka



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:11 am    Post Subject: Pre-(S)Election Thoughts  

I refuse to vote in another phony election
November 21, 2011 by ppjg
John Boering /PPJ Contributor


I am not voting in the next presidential election. And, I don't want to hear how if I don't vote I have no right to complain about how things are or what some political puppet is doing that is unconstitutional, unlawful or just plain stupid. Yes, I do have the right to complain: just as I have a right to refrain from contributing to this national charade we call “voting”.

I refuse to allow people to claim that I have only myself to blame if Evil-doer #1 (R) got elected and they think that I voted for the bum, and now he is breaking every campaign promise and doing exactly the opposite of what he said he would do, and now this is somehow my fault….my personal failing…..because the guy turns out to be a jerk. I voted for him (supposedly) so I have only myself to blame if I don't like the way things are. I refuse to vote. I can't win. We can't win.

I don't want to hear how our fore-fathers died in countless wars of aggression so that I could have the right to vote. That's not what they died for. Voting was never what they died for unless voting has [.Inc] after it. (I guess it does)

I refuse to be made complicit in selecting the next New World Order flunky. Not that my vote would count; our votes are not counted. Diebold, Sequoia and other electronic voting machine manufacturers have seen to it that no matter how we, the public, fill out those ballots the machines magically produce the candidate selected for us prior to the election. Electronic voting machine manufacturers were well paid for their uncompromising commitment to rigging elections. After all, why leave anything to chance and leave open the possibility that the people's choice might actually get elected. That could really mess things up if we actually had a legitimate candidate that hadn't been vetted and pre-approved by the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission and various shadowy figures that seem to slip in and out of the shadowy halls of government insisting on having their way.

And besides, we might be depriving those highly connected controllers of elections of the simple pleasure of watching us walk away from another election in a state of shock, knowing that the voting was decidedly in favor of one candidate and yet someone else “won”.

I am not willing to enter some voting booth and be forced to choose between Evil-doer # 1 (R) or Evil-doer #2 (D), even one more time. Besides, if Evil-doer #1 (R) has already been decided on as our next dictator-in-waiting, I could stand there and fill ballots for Evil-doer #2 (D) all day long and the handy dandy electronic voting machine would convert my ballot choices to the pre-approved winner(s). But the point is…..I refuse to be made complicit in my own destruction. I refuse to be forced to decide between which version of Evil-doer I want to be in charge of trashing the constitution, and selling us off to foreign interests and multi-national corporations. I refuse.

I am not about to participate in what amounts to a national day of deceit. I will not join the ranks of those individuals who cling to the idea that being right or left, Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative means jack-didley-squat anywhere inside the sewer that is the District of Criminals on CRAPital Hill. (Wish I could take credit for those descriptive terms, but I can't). Inside the beltway is one big giant party dedicated to deconstructing the sovereign United States. They aren't left or right, Democrat or Republican except when there is a photo op or a camera close by….or when we engage in the national deceits that are our elections and they need to appear to be opposed to each other for affect. Out of sight, they work together to destroy as much of what is left of us as a country, as quickly as possible. I refuse to contribute to this.

We have allowed this two party system, complete with crooks, philanderer's, liars, thieves, corruption, anti-American activities, phony religious panderers, New World Order supporters, UN promoters, North American Union facilitators, and in many cases….sexual perverts, to run roughshod over us. Many of us have allowed ourselves to be convinced that we cannot tolerate a third or fourth party because it might ruin the chances of the pre-selected winner to actually “win” or to claim a land-slide. That could actually be a good thing….but then there's that little problem with those rigged voting machines. Even so, a great deal of effort is expended by the Big 2 to denigrate, marginalize and render third or fourth party candidates pretty much persona non gratis at the voting booth. Those who still mindlessly cling to this phony left v right paradigm wail endlessly at the prospect of a third party candidate supposedly derailing the vaulted candidate, possibly stealing victory from his/her clenched fists. Oh! The tragedy of it all! Of course none of this would be possible without the cooperation of Lame Street Media.

The rest of you can, of course, do as you please. If you feel like pulling those levers or blackening in those little ovals on a ballot and slipping that ballot into that rigged machine..by all means…do it. Whether you vote or you don't vote, no matter how that election turns out….its going to be all your fault anyway. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I prefer the “don't”. I don't think I could take putting my name on another pointless ballot and knowing that I continued, simply by choosing to participate, to support or consent to the ongoing destruction of our country.

The only vote I could cast in good conscience is : NO CONFIDENCE. Otherwise, I refuse to participate.


Source - http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/i-refuse-to-vote-in-another-phony-election/#comment-13275
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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:40 am    Post Subject:  

Voting is compulsory in Australia
I have not voted for decades
They send you a stern letter, enquiring why you didn't vote
I said I couldn't distinguish one party from the other, neither could I, when tested by a psychologist, distinguish Santa Claus from the Tooth Fairy.
Therefore I considered myself unfit to vote.
The electoral commission accepted this, and kindly refrained from fining me the statutory twenty bucks. Twenty bucks! I am for once not joking. If you park for a minute in a loading zone they skin you for half your weekly wage!
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/
This link is to a guy who is articulate and well-researched on this and related matters
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Crakka



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:44 pm    Post Subject:  

steve clougher wrote:
I said I couldn't distinguish one party from the other, neither could I, when tested by a psychologist, distinguish Santa Claus from the Tooth Fairy.
Therefore I considered myself unfit to vote.
The electoral commission accepted this, and kindly refrained from fining me the statutory twenty bucks.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Well done! <clap> Will fight compulsory voting here for as long as possible - in fact compulsory anything!!!

Yep, you vote 'em in so they can rob you blind. One can only imagine the so-called "logic" behind making anything compulsory and then adding a fine if you CHOOSE OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL not to comply like a good little slave - "let's take away their right to choose, force them to vote in the rigged election so we can justify everything we do and If they don't vote we'll take money away from them for a fine! We WIN, they LOSE everytime! MWAHAHAHA!" And people don't think politicians aren't laughing raucously at them behind their backs :roll:

Good blog link :wink:
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Crakka



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:47 pm    Post Subject:  

Crakka wrote:
And people don't think politicians aren't laughing raucously at them behind their backs :roll:


Bah! Double negative too-fast-on-the-submit-button.... grmmpphhh...

[Fixed by Admin]
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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:57 pm    Post Subject:  

I think politicians are mostly frightened rabbits, except the Rambo types who are probably on really really expensive drugs
http://encyc.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_truth_changing
Link to a lucid account of the extraordinary history of the Wiki entry for the so-called Port Arthur Massacre. My family was traveling in the area that day, and we saw things that throw the official story into the bin.
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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:38 pm    Post Subject:  

This
http://sydwalker.info/blog/2010/12/17/are-the-port-arthur-killers-still-out-there/
Is a readable synopsis of some of the factors surrounding the quite complex event known as the Port Arthur massacre. In my opinion this guy is right in saying the PA massacre was a dress rehearsal for 911. The two events have much in common, starting with the diabolization of respectively, Muslims, and firearms.
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Deano



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:38 pm    Post Subject:  

Wasnt this a vote or not vote thread, now youre on port arthur massacre, come on my man!

For the 1st time i dont want to vote either, dont like any of them, why should i be forced to vote for pple i dont like.
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Crakka



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:24 pm    Post Subject:  

Check this vid. One of many...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Df6kkelk_0

We all know here that it really is going to take a full-force punch right between the eyes before the average Joe reacts ay lads? :roll:
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Crakka



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:35 pm    Post Subject:  

Deano wrote:
Wasnt this a vote or not vote thread, now youre on port arthur massacre, come on my man!


Haha!

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steve clougher



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:08 pm    Post Subject:  

Jolly good I'll make more effort to bend my iPhone through the navigational challenges, cope with my failing eyesight, please don't feel guilty for ganging up on a poor defenceless old man.....
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Crakka



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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:53 am    Post Subject:  

Don't worry you're not alone - my eyesight's getting worse and we're all getting older hence an admin had to fix my mistakes above! Now... where's my walking frame got to? :lol:
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Crakka



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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:42 pm    Post Subject:  

This is rather timely then... A BBC (propaganda?!) series called "Your Money and How They Spend It" that's just started in the UK. Here's a link to the BBC iPlayer page (although you won't be able to watch unless you know how to tinker with proxies maybe...) -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017vd5m


Nick Robinson examines how governments collect and spend public money. In the first of a two-part series, he reveals the endless pressure on politicians to spend more, and how hard they find it to resist. He looks at who gets what - and why - and shows how easy it is for money to be wasted.

Featuring frank interviews with Westminster's big beasts and encounters with voters around Britain, the programme provides a fresh insight into what caused the current financial climate, and how tricky it is for governments to balance the books.


And here's a very recent (propaganda?!) article written by Nick Robinson, political editor & presenter of the show -

"Ten things about your money and how they spend it"
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steve clougher



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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:07 pm    Post Subject:  

Yes Crakka, lies, damned lies and statistics.
Fairly transparent fact-fudging.
One really really good thing he said, the bit about being impressed, in the course of doing the doco, by the realization that he had to do more for himself.
By which I take it to mean gardening, cooking, sewing, knitting his own socks and beanies.......
Where is the detail?
Therein the Devil to be found, find him you will (Yoda)
The rich do nothing, produce nothing, just live off usury. If anything, with their hostile takeovers and asset-stripping, they are counter-productive. (There are exceptions, e.g. Dick Smith)
The poor produce everything. The victims of unemployment and welfare dependence effectively obscure this fact.
The people who organize industry might retire at 65 with a nice package, but they work hard all their lives, and typically don't have a huge amount of time to enjoy their grandchildren.
Then there are the professionals. These days most of them charge too much, keeping the poor poorer. The quality of their service varies enormously, and they are consistent only in the way they close ranks, when in trouble, and hide behind their qualifications, which can be pretty flaky. They labour under the illusion that they are vastly superior by virtue of their higher salaries. They dabble in the stockmarket, and depend on usury for their retirement, not noticing that the stock market flushes their funds down the drain periodically. ( This is seen as natural market forces at work). They fail to notice that they are still slaves to the really rich, who typically do a decade or two of work, including a lot of tennis and golf, keeping an eye on the commodities and currencies, but unfortunately, also nurturing the military -industrial complex and the secret police, both of which have been pivotal to horrendous acts of genocide and cultural vandalism.
So just saying that the top 1% of "earners" pay whatever percent of the tax, does not mention that they inherited power and wealth, do very little except organize a few lackeys to organize a lot of slaves, and are responsible for great big heaps of sorrow, despair and waste.
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steve clougher



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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:17 am    Post Subject:  

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6017900/Access-denied-to-Treasury-papers-on-asset-sales
Grant Robertson refers to "public assets"
John Key calls them "state-owned"
So does the public own the state?
Or vice versa?
Or do the bankers own everything?
Public utilities should not be carved up for the games of speculators.
If shares are issued, they should be issued free, one to each man, woman and child. So why bother? If these utilities can be privatized, it just means people are willing to let them be stolen. Air NZ shares, Telecom shares, these are stolen property. All the politicians, if they're not screaming about this, are complicit.
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Crakka



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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:25 am    Post Subject:  

:thumbsup
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steve clougher



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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:18 am    Post Subject:  

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6017900/Access-denied-to-Treasury-papers-on-asset-sales
Grant Robertson refers to "public assets"
John Key calls them "state-owned"
So does the public own the state?
Or vice versa?
Or do the bankers own everything?
Public utilities should not be carved up for the games of speculators.
If shares are issued, they should be issued free, one to each man, woman and child. So why bother? If these utilities can be privatized, it just means people are willing to let them be stolen. Air NZ shares, Telecom shares, these are stolen property. All the politicians, if they're not screaming about this, are complicit.
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steve clougher



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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:16 pm    Post Subject:  

This fellow does an excellent unauthorised biography of George Bush. On his home page, he is speaking, not very articulately, at a rally in Damascus recently. He is much better as a historian. The early chapters about Prescott Bush's part in the arming and support of Hitler's private armies, is pertinent today. One thinks of the Tuhoe fiasco.
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steve clougher



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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:00 pm    Post Subject:  

Sincere commiserations
All the grief and hangovers
Remember the RWC, and pry Minister John singing along
Let us go along to council meetings
Let us abolish electronic vote counting everywhere and forever.
Let us put our heads between our legs and kiss etc.
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Deano



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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:20 pm    Post Subject:  

If they hold the controlling share amount 51%+ i dont mind if they sell some energy shares.
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steve clougher



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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:00 pm    Post Subject:  

In my view publically owned utilities, built by our grandfathers, should not be floated for the benefit of investors they should be nonprofit, for the public good, allowing people to go about their business at a minimal cost. My first job ( apart from lots of local agricultural work) was with the NZED ( electricity dept) in Christchurch. If anyone should have a stake in such an institution, it should be the workers. There were a lot fewer power cuts in those days. Privatisation leads to profit taking, to please the shareholders who don't give a damn for the quality of the service.
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