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mortiis35



Joined: 25 Sep 2011
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:21 am    Post Subject: Blenheim, Marlborough (NZ)  

My partner and I have been noticing huge amounts of increasing chemtrails recently in Blenheim region.
We live very close (within five minutes walk) of the city center, and last Friday (23rd September 2011) we noticed at around 5:50PM THREE planes simultaneously spraying at onces!!

This is the first time that we have ever seen this, and it got me to thinking - "What the hell can I do about this???"

I have noticed that the more they spray, the more my personal physical health rapidly changes - blood noses, flu-like symptoms, extreme coughing and migraines.

Please, if anyone knows what I can do, please let me know - I am extremely worried about this.

Land of the long white chemical trail, I say now :(

I have uploaded some photographs into the gallery of this mess, and also here's a youtube link for some footage we took:






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnqq_-FlhnE
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mortiis35



Joined: 25 Sep 2011
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:42 am    Post Subject: Photos  

Sorry for the 'double-post',
these are some photographs taken at various times and days recently.

I did get one of all three planes simultaneously spraying, and will look for that and upload it shortly.

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/mortiis33/6182952296/[/img]

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/mortiis33/6182430991/[/img]

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/mortiis33/6182950780/[/img]

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/mortiis33/6182949814/[/img]

[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/mortiis33/6182948204/[/img]
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Crakka



Joined: 07 Aug 2008
Posts: 1853
Location: The Wild West

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:27 pm    Post Subject:  

G'day mortiis & welcome. Thanks for posting some more stuff here - it's been a little quiet lately although that's probably more due to people just not posting rather than a let-up in activity out there :wink:

Would like to see the photo of 3 trails being laid simultaneously as this would be good evidence I think that it may be something other than normal commercial flights!

(have sent you a quick PM re those image links)
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 976
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:36 am    Post Subject:  

Some ideas for possible courses of action, mortiis.
Check with local medical centers for possible epidemics of symptoms like yours, keep a diary of spray events and correlate with temperature and humidity data, to isolate trails which may be caused by supersaturation with respect to ice.
Write to your local member of parliament.
Write to the Air Force
Try and track where these planes land, possibly through a network of friends
I'm looking forward to seeing your pic of three planes spraying too
From your links to your pics, I get Australian phone numbers!
Try again?
Have you looked through our archives where you can find good records of chemtrail-associated severe "flu" epidemic in your area?
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Farside



Joined: 15 Mar 2011
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:43 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi all,
Been busy lately but have a bit of news you might find welcome.

A company I'm working for has developed a device so sensitive that you can point it at a contrail from the ground and determine the chemical makeup.

Be on the market by the end of the year I expect.
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mortiis35



Joined: 25 Sep 2011
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:47 pm    Post Subject:  

Farside, is this a joke or for real? LOL

If so, any chance of getting one to try out for sample!?

Farside wrote:
Hi all,
Been busy lately but have a bit of news you might find welcome.

A company I'm working for has developed a device so sensitive that you can point it at a contrail from the ground and determine the chemical makeup.

Be on the market by the end of the year I expect.
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:20 pm    Post Subject:  

How does it work, farside?
How much will it cost? Will it be freely available?
What's the name of your company?
Will I be able to make one for $20 using parts from my local multinational hardware shop?
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Farside



Joined: 15 Mar 2011
Posts: 43

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:42 am    Post Subject:  

No, it's not a joke :D

The device is a new form of spectrometer and the company will make them as an OEM device which means that they won't be selling it as a device on its own but will be bought by other companies to use as a component.

Traditional spectrometers use a grating or slit that the light goes through:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrometer

This means only a tiny bit of the available light can get through and the rest is blocked by the material that "makes up" the slit.

These people have found a way to take this blocked light and stack it so it goes through the slit too. More light means greater sensitivity (10 times greater).

Here's the rub. Unless you are a researcher or have access to an optical research lab, this could be a difficult job on your own. I don't know the cost of the device but it's likely not in itself expensive for an optical device however, a typical optical system and analysis software etc needed to run some "experiments" could set you back 50K

This tech was born 15 years ago when the US DOD wanted to be able to look at a contrail and determine if it was an airliner or a Russian ballistic missile. They dropped the project but the scientists kept at it. FWIW, they are putting one of these in a satellite to analyse gasses being emmitted from the ground with the intention of cross referencing this data with incidences of autism etc. I expect there will be some very uncomfortable CEOs in the chemical industry too. Secret dump sites, landfill outgassing...

Where I am currently living, they used dioxin in the 70's to clear the electricity transmission corridors. This device would likely detect where that dioxin has gone in the past 40 years from space and is a project I'd like to pursue.
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Farside



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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:59 am    Post Subject:  

Sorry for not posting the company. At this point I'm not prepared to because it will put me in an akward position and totally blow my cover :(

What I am prepared to do is run the idea of performing some experiments in N.Z. to investigate jet contrails based on the hypothesis that there is covert geo-engineering activities going on.

I know the head scientist and CTO of the company and know he'd jump at the chance to go to N.Z.

What I will need from you guys is a body of evidence or at least a sufficiently compelling case to look into this further.

Be aware that from the "outside", the chemtrail theory is quite "out there" so you run the risk of coming across as a whacko and I'll look like a complete douche. If you can provide me with a document that is well structured, unbiased, to the point and peaks the readers curiosity without scaring them then I'll see what I can do.

On the bright side, these scientists have achieved something that academia insisted was impossible and they were banished to scientific Siberia for a number of years because of it. They've also worked on stuff so covert that I can't even guess what it might be... Like a chemtrail generator lol! Anyway, they are very open minded as a result, they are very passionate, creative and inquisitive.

I'm sure he'll give you a fair crack if you take the time and effort to prepare a serious proposal.
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:09 pm    Post Subject:  

Well Farside, please tell your DOD people that Russian missiles go about Mach 4, and have a look at the Bruce Cathy material, proving that the nuclear threat is exactly equivalent to today's terrorism threat, a comprehensive state-manufactured crock of B-S.
In my opinion, a spectrometer works only when the elements are at high temp, and in any case, will never be able to analyze organic compounds, so goodbye, silver bullet.
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Farside



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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:35 pm    Post Subject:  

I think you need to brush up on your spectrometers. Yes they are used in astrophysics to detect the makeup of stars but they are also used in medical technology to image biological structures.
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steve clougher



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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:27 pm    Post Subject:  

Help brush me up Farside
Post a link please that gives us the credible moderately expressed peer-reviewed and respectable model for a spectrometer that can analyze a chemtrail three miles away
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Farside



Joined: 15 Mar 2011
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:45 pm    Post Subject:  

My apologies. This was the wrong forum to post that information.
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Ross Marsden



Joined: 18 Aug 2010
Posts: 84

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:00 pm    Post Subject:  

Only three miles, steve? How can you get that close?
Those jets are at 30,000+ feet. That is at least 5.6 miles from you, and 8 miles if the plane is at 45° elevation.
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Crakka



Joined: 07 Aug 2008
Posts: 1853
Location: The Wild West

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:58 pm    Post Subject:  

No wonder things are quiet atm... :roll:
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:34 pm    Post Subject:  

Don't think so Ross
When on internal flights, around 27,000ft is common
36,000ft for international flights, as I recall
Plus, as we have established in previous posts, though not necessarily to your satisfactiion, chem-spraying jets have been seen to come down very low indeed
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Ross Marsden



Joined: 18 Aug 2010
Posts: 84

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:03 pm    Post Subject:  

steve clougher wrote:
...
When on internal flights, around 27,000ft is common
36,000ft for international flights, as I recall
...


Can you give some references to back this up?
Do you know about http://www.flightradar24.com ?
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Deano



Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 741

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:23 pm    Post Subject:  

Hey Steve can u explain your reference to the cathy material above
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 976
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:18 pm    Post Subject:  

A pleasure, Deano.
Bruce twice predicted the day and the hour of the French tests at Mururoa, on the basis of his theory that the success of a nuclear bomb depends on the time and place, specifically with respect to the position of the sun. In support of this he cites the fact that one of the planes to bomb Japan in 1945, had to circle at very high altitude for hours, to meet these requirements. Anyway, Bruce was very close in his calculations, which he made months out from the events. Thus and therefore, it follows that there has been a conspiracy between all nuclear armed states to diddle the "uncritical mass". Therefore the cold war was a complete sham, which agrees with the drift of what we have been learning of our beloved leaders lately.......
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Deano



Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 741

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:07 pm    Post Subject:  

with regard to the position of the sun fascinating i had read in numerous areas that you couldnt explode one unless it was on major ley lines but the timing part i didnt know most major cities are on major ley lines from the looks what more do you know about the timing aspect
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 976
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:44 pm    Post Subject:  

Secondfield, where are you when we need you?
I'm not sure if they won't work in the wrong place at the wrong time, or if the "yield" is gently reduced
Bruce doesn't know either, as far as I can tell, but you could ring him up on his email; Secondfield would know something
The astounding part of it is the conspiracy of silence between all the generalissimos, while terrorizing all the citizens on both sides
Gives credibility to the theory that the secret police and the militaries all or nearly all share the same evil paymaster/ fat controller
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