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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:08 pm Post Subject: The implications of geoengineering schemes for NZ
For those who haven't already seen this on Scoop and linked also on OpenUR eyes, this meeting would've taken place earlier tonight -
The implications of geoengineering schemes for New Zealand Friday, 4 March 2011, 8:00 pm
Press Release: The Royal Society of New Zealand
The implications of geoengineering schemes for New Zealand
Next week around 40 scientists and policymakers will meet in Wellington to familiarise themselves with the principles behind geoengineering, and the implications for New Zealand.
The workshop on Tuesday 8 March is being hosted by the Royal Society of New Zealand and the presenters include scientists from a range of organisations including NIWA.
Efforts to rein in greenhouse gas emissions have been relatively insignificant to date, and atmospheric levels are now rising more sharply. In the absence of mitigation, geoengineering could offer an alternative option by preventing the potentially catastrophic climate-change tipping points that face us. Yet, despite a plethora of suggested schemes, very few have been tested, and there are no national or international policies controlling these activities.
What are the geoengineering options?
Geoengineering techniques to reduce global warming can be broadly divided into two types - Solar Radiation Management (SRM), in which the amount of heat entering the lower atmosphere is reduced; and Carbon Dioxide Reduction (CDR), in which the primary greenhouse gas CO2 is removed from the atmosphere.
Scientists will be providing information on the different approaches that could be applied in the atmosphere, ocean and on land, with examples including Biochar (burnt wood like charcoal) and artificial trees, injecting reflective particles into the atmosphere and increasing cloud cover, pumping liquid CO2 into the deep ocean and fertilisation of the ocean with iron.
The potential benefits and flaws of each approach will be considered, with a focus on effectiveness, cost, monitoring, verification and potential side-effects.
The workshop is interactive, and the participants will use complex decision-making software to explore the many issues - from safety to economics - when considering the merits of any geo-engineering scheme. This will permit each participate to obtain a better personal grasp of the central issues surrounding this subject.
The workshop will also consider geoengineering policy - how should New Zealand deal with geoengineering? - and the regional effects of geoengineering.
Speakers that may be of interest to journalists include:
Dr Cliff Law is a senior scientist at NIWA with expertise in the interactions between atmospheric and oceanic processes. Dr Law will present a summary of proposed geoengineering techniques to be used in the open ocean, including several that could be used in waters south of New Zealand.
Dr Mike Harvey is a senior scientist at NIWA who specialises in atmospheric processes including the production and fate of climate-reactive gases. Mike will present an overview about how the lower and upper atmosphere could be a venue for various geoengineering methods.
Dr Philip Boyd is based at NIWA and Otago University’s Joint Centre of Research Excellence operated by the Centre for Chemical & Physical Oceanography. He is an ocean biogeochemist and will explore the potential criteria that could be used to rank the suitability of a range of geoengineering methods (ocean, atmosphere and land-based approaches).
Franz Ombler is one of the founders of 1000Minds. Based on University of Otago research, 1000Minds’ decision-support software assisst decision makers with addressing many-faceted questions, and that will be used at this workshop to target and dissect issues surrounding geoengineering.
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:41 am Post Subject:
I attended the conference. It ran all day long. Geo-engineering scientists are insane and their ideas are dangerous. They freely admit that they have no idea if their crazy ideas will work or what the possible negative consequences might be.
The conference attendees came to a majority decision that the most desirable geo-engineering scheme to roll out globally and here in NZ is the Stratospheric Aerosol method.
That must have been hard yak smash, your a trouper for keeping us informed!! :D
It is true they are insane.
I flounder to imagine how sick their minds must be!
Presumably the frog in the warm water - so detached from reality for sooo long.
Academics who already have the reputation for being out of reality multiplied by the money made from supporting this BS = a fantasy land that makes WallyHood seem like a grounded wet blanket :evil:
You have heard of a soldier ( Sol Dier - one who dies for the Sol cult )
Now Eerie Sol ( sorry I can't help it, I am seeking help for this pointless word play ) :oops:
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:50 pm Post Subject:
Well they want to begin testing these crazy ideas and they have begun work on forming policy and law for geo-engineering here in NZ and they believe that NZ should be leading the world on the matter.
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:41 am Post Subject:
Yep. We've already seen this sort of thing documented in "What In The World Are They Spraying" and it's clear that what's put forward in that movie is not just conspiracy "theory" to those who've had their eyes skyward for long enough. And yes guys, these science freaks (for want a better, more accurate term) REALLY ARE out of touch as is anyone ensnared in the net of the hierarchical system! Out of touch with "reality"? Depends what you call "reality" :wink:
smashdracs wrote:
Well they want to begin testing these crazy ideas and they have begun work on forming policy and law for geo-engineering here in NZ and they believe that NZ should be leading the world on the matter.
NZ - land of the long white cloud indeed!!! :shock:
We are the sacrificial lambs in this land of sheep! The penal colony's real purpose?! Prisoners have always been experimented on! How often have you heard that catch-phrase "leading the world" during your lifetime here? The little guy does good! Etc, etc, etc.... BS nationalistic fervour propaganda anyone? Give 'em the world's best gladiators (All BLACKs - colour of the executioner!) and they'll be none-the-wiser as they guzzle down gallons of ale and chant for blood! :twisted: (note how all the news headlines are now focussed on the colosseum/stadium in CHCH and whether or not they can host the world cup/gladiatorial games blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....
You said "...they want to begin..." but despite the best efforts of the disinfo agents it's very obvious something's been going on before now.
On that note, 2 days ago we watched at least 2 aircraft doing the "same old" out west over & just off the coast - no trail until they hit just off the coastline then a big puff of PT for a second or 2 that stayed there as an artificial cloud then a switch to massive output "contrail" (the type that dissipates). This was all in exactly the same area as reported in earlier posts last couple of years and exactly the same way as just described - always the "puff" of PT (varying lengths) then either nothing or contrail. When there's multiple trails done they are always done parallel, usually at about a 45 degree angle in a series across the sky at the same "height" (distance from land horizon) and all within a short time which to me certainly doesn't look like it would be the odd commercial aircraft following "normal" flightpaths. The sky was a mess of really weird clouds all day that day. Sorry, no camera out where we were.
Methinks this represents a turning point in the claims made for the chemtrail phenomonen being a real world occurence. Way to go Smash, done in true clandestine style!
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:33 am Post Subject:
excellent, smashy
i picked Jez Weston at random, and found his creds as a member of the royal society of nz, and a humorous talk on youtube, to a "nerdnite" meeting......
strikes me, there is someone out there who knows how to draw the connecting links between the weather-controlling geo-engineering which i studied from a grandstand seat for four years, and know without any shadow of doubt to be a historical reality, and the element of power-grabbing from our beloved currency barons, who, presumably, are calling the shots. If this connection can be plausibly drawn, then perhaps the populace will coalesce in a movement to re-empower and reform our justice departments, to be able to come to grips with such monstrous crimes as unauthorised chem-spraying, 911, the Port Arthur massacre and others of similar ilk
Meantime, whether folks like Jez etc. are paid up crew for the cratocrats, or just instinctively carving a niche out of what's available, they are all leading the conversation in a dance of small circles, and the really serious issues, the ones which will still be there when chemtrails are just a bad dream in the distant past, those issues are being left out
Methinks this represents a turning point in the claims made for the chemtrail phenomonen being a real world occurence. Way to go Smash, done in true clandestine style!
I couldn't agree more. Those trails must be something else then. Gosh, I wonder what they are!
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:16 am Post Subject:
well you declined a good invitation to come and stay in a place where they were evident on a daily basis, nearly, and where the altitude anomolies were frequently obvious, and where the evenly-spaced lay-out was a common thing to see, and where correlations between chemtrail activity and drought patterns were pretty much in your face......nevertheless, i don't know what they were made of either, being born a poor sort of creature without wings and without a built-in analytic laboratory
more to the point, you missed your big chance, so stop your snivelling
