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Milutiche



Joined: 10 May 2010
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:16 pm    Post Subject: New Video of Trails over Whangarei  

Hey people, what do you think of this http://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/chemtrails-over-whangarei-on-july-30-2010/#comment-922

"There was a huge chemtrail over Whangarei today, which was seen turning into cloud-like material. It was not on a passenger plane route."

Well we all know Whangarei is a passenger plane route by now, Seoul, Tokyo, Apia, Nadi, Shanghai would all posibly fly over Whangarei - Ive taken many photos of Korea Airlines KE130/129 over Whangarei.

From the moment I looked outside thismorning there was a heap of cirrus cloud in the sky above Whangarei

- have posted some pics in the gallery -
as the day progressed it became more intense as can be seen in todays MODIS Rapidfire images -

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?subset=NewZealand.2010211.aqua.1km

I live about 7km from where this vid was taken and I work about 4 km from it.

I would love to hear everyones opinions on this vid

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RAC



Joined: 13 Jun 2010
Posts: 57

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:58 pm    Post Subject:  

I don't think this Lady Clare shares the same ideas as most on this forum do.
She seems extreme on the whole chemtrails thing, even when a plane leaves a short trail she claims it to be a chemical.

Their can be a streight line in the sky caused by natural clouds and she'll think it was put there by a plane even though she never saw any plane leaving the streight line of cloud. This video is an example.

In shot this lady is scared of all high altitude clouds because she cant seem to understant them, everything is chem if she cant get her brain around it. I have seen crakka make some logical comments on her blog site and get shot down!
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ChemtrailsNZ



Joined: 02 Aug 2010
Posts: 10

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:33 am    Post Subject:  

RAC wrote:
I don't think this Lady Clare shares the same ideas as most on this forum do.
In shot this lady is scared of all high altitude clouds because she cant seem to understant them, everything is chem if she cant get her brain around it. I have seen crakka make some logical comments on her blog site and get shot down!


Hello Raymond Collecutt, you are the person I spoke to on the phone a couple of weeks ago - the auto electrician I dropped documentaries to at my own expense? I recall you hastily claimed you thought that condensation trails that come from peoples' mouth can last for hours and you told me that there can be no HAARP activity in NZ, because there is only one HAARP array in the world. I also recall that when I brought up the issue of the coloured clouds seen in Whangarei, you suggested that I had used photoshop on the film. You had not bothered to investigate the matter.

The same kind of coloured clouds are being seen elsewhere where chemtrailing is occurring. Refer: http://www.weatherwars.info/

Some of the coloured clouds seen can be seen here in this film shot by Jim Reece in March in Whangarei this year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4njNBqbUQGw

And here, in footage I shot on June the 12th, 2010:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfHRBIhTQ5g

You have stated that I am "scared of all high altitude clouds." If you are interested in what scares me, it is ignorance and people's unwillingness to investigate important evidence when it is put before them.
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ChemtrailsNZ



Joined: 02 Aug 2010
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:47 am    Post Subject: Re: New Video of Trails over Whangarei  

Milutiche wrote:
Hey people, what do you think of this http://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/chemtrails-over-whangarei-on-july-30-2010/#comment-922

"There was a huge chemtrail over Whangarei today, which was seen turning into cloud-like material. It was not on a passenger plane route."

Well we all know Whangarei is a passenger plane route by now, Seoul, Tokyo, Apia, Nadi, Shanghai would all posibly fly over Whangarei - Ive taken many photos of Korea Airlines KE130/129 over Whangarei.

From the moment I looked outside thismorning there was a heap of cirrus cloud in the sky above Whangarei

- have posted some pics in the gallery -
as the day progressed it became more intense as can be seen in todays MODIS Rapidfire images -

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?subset=NewZealand.2010211.aqua.1km

I live about 7km from where this vid was taken and I work about 4 km from it.

I would love to hear everyones opinions on this vid

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That was one of the largest and most obvious chemtrails I have seen yet over Whangarei this year.
Disturbingly, this activity seems to being stepped up worldwide.
It was interesting that David Keith, one of the world's top geo-engineers said in February, that the world's richest people could perhaps afford to buy an ice age.
These comments can be heard during this show James Corbett of The Corbett Report did on the 18th of July on chemtrailing and geo-engineering:
http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/episode138_geoengineering_and_you.mp3

Documentation:
http://www.corbettreport.com/index.php?i=Documentation&ii=358
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RAC



Joined: 13 Jun 2010
Posts: 57

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:16 pm    Post Subject:  

ChemtrailsNZ wrote:
RAC wrote:
I don't think this Lady Clare shares the same ideas as most on this forum do.
In shot this lady is scared of all high altitude clouds because she cant seem to understant them, everything is chem if she cant get her brain around it. I have seen crakka make some logical comments on her blog site and get shot down!


Hello Raymond Collecutt, you are the person I spoke to on the phone a couple of weeks ago - the auto electrician I dropped documentaries to at my own expense? I recall you hastily claimed you thought that condensation trails that come from peoples' mouth can last for hours and you told me that there can be no HAARP activity in NZ, because there is only one HAARP array in the world. I also recall that when I brought up the issue of the coloured clouds seen in Whangarei, you suggested that I had used photoshop on the film. You had not bothered to investigate the matter.

The same kind of coloured clouds are being seen elsewhere where chemtrailing is occurring. Refer: http://www.weatherwars.info/

Some of the coloured clouds seen can be seen here in this film shot by Jim Reece in March in Whangarei this year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4njNBqbUQGw

And here, in footage I shot on June the 12th, 2010:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfHRBIhTQ5g

You have stated that I am "scared of all high altitude clouds." If you are interested in what scares me, it is ignorance and people's unwillingness to investigate important evidence when it is put before them.


What i did say was in a frezzer you can breath out fog untill you cant see anymore , then you said "can it last 4 hours" then i said maybe you would need to try it, then you said" i'm going to qoute you on that" then i said it was you that said that!

LOL!

You also said i couldn't take detailed photos of planes because they are too far away but you are now saying you said i couldn't see them and identify them with my own eyes, Why would i say with my own eyes? that the most stupit thing ever.

Anyway we have photos of a plane you thought was chemtrailing, i think you need to take this up with Korean airlines now. Its not us that is spraying, we are just identifying the planes, something you havn't done yet. Don't get angry with us we are helping you to identify these planes.
If they are not chemtrails and just contrails then that is also not our fault, you have just diagnosed them wrongly.

Good luck.
Raymond.
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RAC



Joined: 13 Jun 2010
Posts: 57

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:22 pm    Post Subject:  

By the way i watched you videos and looked closely at the photos you gave me. There is alot of disinfo in what you are believing.

You need to do some research on what goes on at 20,000+ft.
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ChemtrailsNZ



Joined: 02 Aug 2010
Posts: 10

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:27 pm    Post Subject:  

RAC wrote:
By the way i watched you videos and looked closely at the photos you gave me. There is alot of disinfo in what you are believing.

You need to do some research on what goes on at 20,000+ft.


While you state there is "alot of disinfo in what you are believing" where is your evidence? I do provide evidence to back up my claims. I show photographs and video, and documented evidence from respected sources. For example, chemtrailing of sorts, has been going on for decades, even according to the mainstream media:
Millions were in germ war tests
Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

Geo-engineering is addressed in conferences:
What In The World Are They Spraying?
By Michael J. Murphy 03 March, 2010
http://www.countercurrents.org/murphy030310.htm

It has been addressed on the influential Council on Foreign Relations website:
Obama’s Plan To “Geo-Engineer” The Planet Mirrors CFR Policy Documents
http://www.infowars.com/obamas-plan-to-geo-engineer-the-planet-mirrors-cfr-policy-documents/
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RAC



Joined: 13 Jun 2010
Posts: 57

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:18 pm    Post Subject:  

Yes i will not disagree man has sprayed stuff from planes befor. But what i will say is did they look like the trails we see today, nor me or you can answer that but what we do know is that contrails have always looked and behaved the same as what wee see today.
Contrails come in many different forms depending on the atmospheric conditions of the air that the plane flies through.


If you fermly believe that the plane that was seen on the 12 of june was spraying something then please take this up with Korean airlines as showing photos and video of the trail on youtube will not get the problem sorted for you.

This is were plane identification is a must, without it there is no proof of anything but a white trail in the sky, what good is that.
Rose says she has records of dates times and photos to go along with them but without id what good are they.

This is were i see us as helping you, if you still believe they are spraying us then use our plane id photos and do some good with it, just because we think they arn't spraying anything shouldn't matter.
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Milutiche



Joined: 10 May 2010
Posts: 47

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:23 pm    Post Subject: Re: New Video of Trails over Whangarei  

ChemtrailsNZ wrote:
Milutiche wrote:
Hey people, what do you think of this http://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/chemtrails-over-whangarei-on-july-30-2010/#comment-922

"There was a huge chemtrail over Whangarei today, which was seen turning into cloud-like material. It was not on a passenger plane route."

Well we all know Whangarei is a passenger plane route by now, Seoul, Tokyo, Apia, Nadi, Shanghai would all posibly fly over Whangarei - Ive taken many photos of Korea Airlines KE130/129 over Whangarei.

From the moment I looked outside thismorning there was a heap of cirrus cloud in the sky above Whangarei

- have posted some pics in the gallery -
as the day progressed it became more intense as can be seen in todays MODIS Rapidfire images -

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?subset=NewZealand.2010211.aqua.1km

I live about 7km from where this vid was taken and I work about 4 km from it.

I would love to hear everyones opinions on this vid

[/i]



That was one of the largest and most obvious chemtrails I have seen yet over Whangarei this year.
Disturbingly, this activity seems to being stepped up worldwide.
It was interesting that David Keith, one of the world's top geo-engineers said in February, that the world's richest people could perhaps afford to buy an ice age.
These comments can be heard during this show James Corbett of The Corbett Report did on the 18th of July on chemtrailing and geo-engineering:
http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/episode138_geoengineering_and_you.mp3

Documentation:
http://www.corbettreport.com/index.php?i=Documentation&ii=358


You have absoloutly no proof that those cloud formations were not natural, all you have are your asumptions, I linked the MODIS Rapid Fire image for that day and it showed a large front moving towards Northland and as you can see the wet weather set in as expected.

Here's a link to the photo's I took on June 30 2010 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45701084@N08/sets/72157624518121509/
Lots of cirrus cloud in the sky that morning
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Crakka



Joined: 07 Aug 2008
Posts: 1687
Location: The Wild West

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:05 pm    Post Subject:  

Firstly...

As this thread is not presenting a report of a trail sighting it should probably be moved to "General Discussion - Chemtrails".

With all the distracting activity going on here atm a little bit of housekeeping might help
:wink:

Secondly...

RAC wrote:
I have seen crakka make some logical comments on her blog site and get shot down!


That as it may be, I did not let it get personal on that or any other occasion. Please try and refrain from using the shooting down of my "logical comments" on another site as ammunition in your personal playground spat with said person. Thank you.

And thirdly...

"......................................" (yep, just a large exhalation of air...it comes & goes...)
_________________

"The ancient scholars studied for their own improvement. Modern scholars study to impress others." - Confucious
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Crakka



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Location: The Wild West

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:09 pm    Post Subject:  

Oh, and further to my "thirdly", this poll is completely useless as it is simply an "us & them" argument (note I avoided the technical terminology so as not to confuse the issue further :roll: ). Any useful poll should always have at least a third option such as "I don't care!" or "I wish to refrain from this dialectic!" (oops, I slipped it in... :twisted: ).
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Milutiche



Joined: 10 May 2010
Posts: 47

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:17 pm    Post Subject:  

Crakka wrote:
Firstly...

As this thread is not presenting a report of a trail sighting it should probably be moved to "General Discussion - Chemtrails".

With all the distracting activity going on here atm a little bit of housekeeping might help
:wink:


Thanks for moving it to the correct place, My bad.
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Milutiche



Joined: 10 May 2010
Posts: 47

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:21 pm    Post Subject:  

What did you think of my video Crakka?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0rpLThLHzs
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Crakka



Joined: 07 Aug 2008
Posts: 1687
Location: The Wild West

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:43 pm    Post Subject:  

"I wish to refrain from this dialectic!"

Well sort of - I've been on very slow dialup for the last 3 months and will be still for another month at least. Therefore I can't watch any videos atm. 'Nuff said.
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