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ruapaka



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 339

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:50 pm    Post Subject: After a closer look ...  

Kia ora koutou

I got my old drive content on disc last week - I was keen to have a closer look at some older images. I had a look through some albums and found a couple of interesting images with disc/orb objects and one of a bird in flight for comparison.

Bare with me dial-up viewers ...

This photo was taken in 5 May 2007 - facing west from lower Pelorus Valley.



... 2 August 2007 - facing NW from lower Pelorus Valley. The luminous trail intrigued me - I did not see the orb object until on PC and working the zoom.



Here's the bird .. doesn't have a regular shape, even with its wings tucked.



I have many more images to have a closer look at - when I do and if I find anything interesting I will update.
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psychosis Agent



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
Posts: 133
Location: Christchurch

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:03 am    Post Subject:  

Brilliant pics Ruapaka keep them coming :D

I have never seen anything quite like them before
I have seen some strange flying things off the coast of Kiakoura but didnt have a cam with me

Bless up
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ruapaka



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:07 am    Post Subject:  

Here's another installment ....


27 Nov 2006 - Pelorus Valley - facing NW ... plane or harrier hawk? Often view smaller planes on this path.


28 Nov 2006 - Pelorus Valley - facing NW. Smashdracs posted numerous images on a past topic "What's this object?" - one of the images is of an object much like this one. https://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?t=816


29 Nov 2006 - Pelorus Valley - facing W ... I think this is a bird.


6 Dec 2006 - Wairau Valley - facing SW ... another bird.
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secondfield



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 377

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:08 pm    Post Subject:  

Those last two images look very much alike..... in the final one you can see a slight 'aura' around the object. Im not sure if those two are birds. The thing they both have in common however is a 'beak' or protrubence from one end. They look a bit chubby to be bird's, :) however it may pay to actively seek out and photograph birds in flight at various distances to get a 'feel' for what you are looking at in these shots.

There may be a slim possibility you are capturing things in the near infra red spectrum (invisible to us). Some digital cameras do not have a filter in them (called a 'hot mirror') which in turn allows this spectra of light through. The CCD will record this as a dark spot or suchlike.
You can check your camera's ability to image into this 'invisible realm' by simply pointing the buisness end of a TV/VCR remote control at the lens while watching through the LCD display. Press a button on the remote and you can see the light from the IR LED shine in the camera screen, even though it is invisible to the eye.

Trevor James Constable, an expat kiwi, perfected techniques in capturing UFO's in the infra-red spectrum in the 50's using IR film. His book 'The Cosmic Pulse of Life' is groundbreaking. A must read! lots of interesting pictures too. Weve got a copy here in the wellington library, its not too hard to track down, sometimes pops up on trademe.

The area you are photographing these 'objects' has a rich and compelling history re UFO's.

Awsome shots! thanks for sharing and keep at it!

This is some of the most important work done by people in AGES...

8)
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:28 pm    Post Subject:  

somewhere, recently, i read that infra-red sensitive optical devices are being banned in the US..........?..!

fantastic photos ruapaka, you need a better camera
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secondfield



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 377

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:02 pm    Post Subject:  

Quote:
) Subject: Homeland Security Ban On Infrared Cameras.
Date: March 5, 2008
To: earthfiles@earthfiles.com

“Hi Linda,
I am a photography professor at a major college in the Midwest. Our department recently placed a purchase order for a infrared digital still camera. We were shipped the normal spectrum version of the camera with no explanation. When I called the NYC photo suppliers, I was informed that Homeland Security has placed a ban on the sale of ALL digital still and video cameras with infrared capability! Only law enforcement or other agencies can buy them with approval from the manufacturer. They cannot be shipped, but must be picked up in person. An end user license must be completed in the store.

I immediately recalled your recent talk on Coast to Coast AM about there being ‘something’ in the infrared spectrum our government does not want us to see. Our photo program merely wanted to buy the infrared camera for the interesting landscape photographs IR is capable of recording. You can verify my email by following this link to the Major Photo retailer.

Earlier this year, Eastman Kodak suddenly and without warning stopped making infrared film, which had been available for decades. No reason was given, but I now believe this ban came from Homeland Security. Clearly there is something in the infrared spectrum that the general public is not being permitted to see, or record.”

Editor's Note: I have not been able to verify a Homeland Security official, or unofficial, ban on the sale of infrared cameras. When I learn more, I'll report at Earthfiles. I welcome viewer comments and personal experiences: earthfiles@earthfiles.com.



Please note the editor has not been able to verify the above, was posted recently on earthfiles...

I luckily purchased the last roll of kodak infrared 35mm film last month from the phtotgraphic supplies shop here in wellington. The bloke there told me that Kodak are no longer manufacturing it. They said the demand was still there for it though. Google infrared phototgraphy for more info on the process..
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:06 pm    Post Subject:  

yeah, secondfield, that was the article i saw

when i was looking into the option of buying rangefinder binocs, to measure the altitude of jets, there was an infrared version available, around $40,000, from memory

the guy i spoke to on the phone was in Canberra,( which, for those who haven't been there, is a purely public service town, with a certain totally selfcongratulatory atmosphere, though they give nothing and take a lot)

he asked me rudely who i was, saying they didn't deal with the public, only military and "quasi-government agencies" (who , we trust fully, have only our best interests at heart)

when i accepted this, he was willing to warm up and chat a bit

i feel it would be a shame to have to take this crap lying down.......infrared binocs, with a rangefinder, would make a very valuable improvement in safety levels, on a boat at night
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Deano



Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 741

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:56 am    Post Subject:  

Quote:
when i was looking into the option of buying rangefinder binocs, to measure the altitude of jets,


what sort of prices were you seeing for this gear Steve?
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:11 pm    Post Subject:  

$40,000 (forty thousand dollars), Deano, but it was not an option for me to purchase, as i don't belong to "quasi-government " organisations

in other words, i don't have the right to spend exorbitant sums of tax money, to oppress the people who pay those taxes
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steve clougher



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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:13 pm    Post Subject:  

actually, now that i think about it, i think these were light-enhancing, not infra-red
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boadicea



Joined: 04 Apr 2008
Posts: 11

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:20 pm    Post Subject:  

this link may go some way to help understand the US armed forces' nervousness about infrared capable devices being readily available........not film though.....................

http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/category/ai-robotics/

maybe the whole concept of I-R tech is something they think they can bury
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:16 pm    Post Subject: Lighter than air? Light relief, at least  

http://m.spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/military-robots/supposedly-iran-has-supposedly-constructed-a-robotic-flying-saucer-supposedly
Whether Iran has a true UFO or no, we can confidently predict a revolution in the technology of whippersnippers.
We will soon see all garden trimming accomplished from the comfort of a deck chair, with a dock for a coldy, and a remote control
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Farside



Joined: 15 Mar 2011
Posts: 43

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:52 am    Post Subject:  

Any camera with a CMOS sensor is IR sensitive by default and they generally place an IR filter in the lens housing to compensate for this.

Here is a hack to remove one:
http://www.hoagieshouse.com/IR/
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Ross Marsden



Joined: 18 Aug 2010
Posts: 84

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:12 pm    Post Subject:  

You can check if your DVD (etc) remote is working by viewing the transmitter element through your cell phone or digital camera while pressing one of the control buttons.
Try it.
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 976
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:55 pm    Post Subject:  

Hi Ross
http://nutbarsnz.wordpress.com/tag/steven-clougher/
Is this your work?
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Ross Marsden



Joined: 18 Aug 2010
Posts: 84

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:02 pm    Post Subject:  

No. If I was going dis you for something you posted here, I would do it here.

Some advice, steve. When in a hole, stop digging.
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