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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:19 pm Post Subject: Meningococcal Vaccination - Not what it seems
A lengthy article on Scoop reveals that the public has not been fully informed about the true nature and background behind the vaccine issued last year, particularly for children.
Yes quite shocking this. I know somebody where I work who told me about his own child who has been diagnosed with Autism. There really does seem to be a link between the vaccines children get and the amount of mercury that is in the vaccines. I know that our children wont be getting any of these. When we where discussing this I could feel the anger building up with in me. They keep this stuff all secret but it is affecting the health of a whole generation
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:38 pm Post Subject:
Here's an article typical of many out there:
Vaccine findings confirm fears
Some parents long suspected mercury levels were too high.
Published: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:05 AM PST
Parents of children with autism said this week's revelation that at least one pharmaceutical company knew of the high levels of mercury in vaccinations years before disclosing it further supports their suspicions that the poison causes neurodevelopmental disorders... http://www.sfexaminer.com/articles/2005/02/10/news/20050210_ne04_vaccine.txt
You could blame greed and the rush to get a new product on the market and head off a company's competitors for this type of situation. But it seems to me that the root of this problem lies deeper - in the murky realms of a general lack of real caring for humankind, in essence a lack of spiritual values...
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:16 am Post Subject: Meningococcal Vaccination
Scary stuff! I have to confess to being one who had believed this thing was safe, that it had been adequately tested, and that we could believe what we were being told!
I am appalled and disgusted - and for one who has a reputation for being chatty - find myself speechless over this.
Pamela
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:30 pm Post Subject:
Believe you me Pamela we are not aware of the full extent of even the tip of the iceberg yet when it comes to the crimes of the pharmaceutical industry, the food industry, the chemicals industry etc etc and the progressive poisoning of humankind. Not to mention what's in the air that we breathe...
I purchased the Feb/March 2005 Nexus magazine a while ago as it had an article about vaccines. It was part 2 of 2 of a conference for medical experts in 2000, looking into the Vaccine Safety Datalink research in America. Here are some excerpts taken from the article:
- Here are some of the neurological problems seen with the use of aluminium hydroxide and aluminium phosphate in vaccines. In two children aged three and five, doctors at the All Children's Hospital in St Petersburg, Florida, described chronic intestinal pseudo-obstruction, urinary retention and other findings indicative of a generalised loss of autonomic nervous system function (diffuse dysautomomia). The three year old had developed mental delay and hypotonia (loss of muscle tone) A biopsy of the children's vaccine injection site disclosed elevated aluminium levels.
- Dr Gherardi emphasises that once aluminium is injected into the muscle, the immune activation persists for years. In addition, we must consider the effect of the aluminium that travels to the brain itself.
- Of course, in this conference, our illustrious experts tells us that there are "no data showing an additive or synergistic effect between mercury and aluminium".
- Dr Isabell Rapin expresses her concern over public opinion when this information eventually gets out. She says that they are going to be captured by the public and had better make sure that we council them carefully and that we pursue this because of the very important public health and public implications of the data." ......
From this how can one conclude anything other than the fact that at least these scientists were extremely concerned about what was discovered by this study examining the Vaccine Safety Datalink material? They were obviously terrified that the information would leak out to the public. Stamped in bold letters at the top of each page of the study are the words "DO NOT COPY OR RELEASE" and "CONFIDENTIAL"
This is not the wording one would expect on a clinical study of vaccine safety; rather you would expect it on top-secret NSA or CIA fields. Why was this information being secreted? The answer is obvious: it might endanger the vaccine program and indict the federal regulatory agencies for ignoring this danger for so many years.
- Dr Martin Myers puts it this way:
"My own concerns, and a couple of you said it, there is an association between vaccines and outcomes that worries both parents and pediatricians." He cites other possibie connections to vaccine related neurobehavioural and neurodevelopmental problems including a number of vaccines being given, the types of antigens being used and other vaccine additives.
Dr Caserta tells the group that he attended the aluminium conference that often a metal could act differenlty in biological systems than as an ion. This is interesting in the face of the finding that flouride when combined with aluminium forms a compound that can destroy numerous hippocampal neurons at a concentration of 0.5 ppm in drinking water. It seems that aluminium readily combines with flouride to form this toxic compound. With over 60 per cent of communities having flouridated drinking water, this becomes a major concern.
And from the conclusions of the article:
It is obvious that a massive cover-up is in progress, as we have seen with so many other scandals - flouride, food-based excitotoxins, pesticides, aluminium and now vaccines. I would caution those critical of the present vaccine policy not to put all their eggs in one basket - that is, with thimerosal as being the main culprit. There is no question that it plays a major role, but there are other factors that are also critical, including aluminium, flouroaluminium complexes and chronic immune activation of brain microglia.
........ In essence, too many vaccines are being given to children during the brains most rapid growth period. Known toxic metals are being used in the vaccines, which interfere with brain metabolism and antioxidant enzymes, damage DNA and DNA repair enzymes and trigger excitotoxicity.
Removing the mercury will help, but will not solve the problem because overactivation of the brain's immune system will cause varying degress of neurological damage to the highly vulnerable developing brain.
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We decided a few years ago to keep out of the school vaccination program for our child. The whole area seems a bit dodgy even if the school does state the vaccines have been proven to be safe. I feel if you can maintain a healthy immune system and keep away from prescription drugs, processed foods and chemicals you don't necessarily require vaccinations.
Interestingly, there is an article on Scoop about the UN vaccinating 5 Million Indonesian children. In it they refer to vaccinations in Nigeria and how northern Nigerians suspended the vaccination of children against polio, citing the unauthorized use of an experimental drug to combat a meningitis outbreak in the same area.
Scoop has some more updated reports regarding the Meningococcal Vaccination programme. Of note are the following points:
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Dr O'Hallahan's letter of reply in Christchurch's The Press implies that the MeNZB(tm) vaccine will prevent 3,500 cases, 190 deaths and 600 under 20 year olds being permanently disabled.
Let's do some simple maths.
In 2003 and 2004 there were 9 deaths confirmed as being due to the epidemic strain of bacteria targeted by the MeNZB(tm) vaccine (5 & 4 respectively). Maybe 50% of these were in under 20 year olds making a total of 2-3 per year. Over 10 years that is 20-30 deaths that could, theoretically, be prevented if the vaccine works. To get a figure of 190 deaths Dr O'Hallahan has resorted to plucking figures from somewhere and projecting that over more than 10 years. That is pure science fiction. The maximum confirmed number of deaths in any one year in all age groups due to the epidemic strain of meningococcal disease is 17.
Given that the Privacy Commissioner has told the Ministry of Health that parents and guardians must be advised in writing that school rolls are being downloaded into Ministry of Health databases, why are schools being told that they have no choice and parents/guardians not told at all? Is it legal for school rolls to be downloaded into Ministry of Health databases without parents' or guardians' consent?
I find this question (one of 10 asked of the Ministry of Health) to be rather disturbing. Is the Ministry keeping a record of who is immunised and who is not for some purpose that won't be revealed? I feel suspicious.
Full article here http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/GE0504/S00044.htm
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The Meningococcal B Immunisation Programme is achieving historically high rates of up-take with the first 700,000 doses now given to New Zealand children and young people.
The programme which is New Zealand's largest ever mass immunisation campaign is currently operating throughout the North Island and vaccinations will begin in the staggered roll out in the South Island from the end of the month.
This is a nasty disease but 700,000 when there have been so few deaths from it - are we being given some spin? It was also stated in the articles that the trials did not establish either efficacy or effectiveness of the vaccine. Seems like a lot of time on money on something that's not proven.
Full article here http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/GE0505/S00099.htm
Yes quite shocking this. I know somebody where I work who told me about his own child who has been diagnosed with Autism. There really does seem to be a link between the vaccines children get and the amount of mercury that is in the vaccines.
I have come across a web site about autism in children and the link with mercury in vaccines. It says the use of the mercury preservative thymerisol has now been banned in countries like the US, UK and Europe but is still common in developing countries.
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:50 pm Post Subject:
An interesting excerpt from that site by David Kirby, contributing writer to the New York Times, author of Evidence of Harm: Mercury in Vaccines and The Autism Epidemic: A Medical Controversy:
David Kirby wrote:
"Autism has rarely been reported outside of industrialized countries, at least until recent years. A good example is China, where companies such as Merck and Glaxo-SmithKline have begun an aggressive pediatric marketing campaign, selling millions of dollars in vaccines to the Communist Government, including pediatric hepatitis B, DTP, HiB, MMR and others. On August 11, 2004, the official Chinese news agency, Xinhua, reported that children suffering with autism in that country had suddenly and unexpectedly skyrocketed. In a few short years, the number of reported cases jumped from nearly nothing to some 1.8 million children in 2004. One researcher "estimated that the number of Chinese children with autism was growing at an annual rate of 20 percent, even higher than the world average of 14 percent," the news agency reported. Other increases in autism cases are currently being reported in such far-flung countries as Indonesia, Argentina, India and Nigeria. If thimerosal is one day proven to be a contributing factor to autism, and if U.S.-made vaccines containing the preservative are now being supplied to infants the world over, the scope of this potential tragedy becomes almost unthinkable."
This kind of result seems very compelling. While we cannot perhaps be sure that the sudden rise in autism rates in the above example is most definitely related to the aggressive vaccination campaign, it would seem that there is a strong suggestion that this could be a factor - similar to conclusions reached about the rates of obesity rising in such countries where western fast foods suddenly become widely marketed and available.
Also something to be aware of is the synergistic toxicity...
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Here is Donald Miller, M.D. Professor of Surgery, University of Washington, discussing aluminum and synergistic toxicity:
"Another important factor with regard to mercury on the mind, which officials at the CDC, FDA and the professors in the IOM do not consider, is synergistic toxicity - mercury's enhanced effect when other poisons are present. A small dose of mercury that kills 1 in 100 rats and a dose of aluminum that will kill 1 in 100 rats, when combined have a striking effect: all the rats die. Doses of mercury that have a 1% mortality will have a 100 percent mortality rate if some aluminum is there. Vaccines contain aluminum."
Aluminium has also been implicated in Alzheimer's Disease. I did a bit of research a while ago into aluminium and found that in some countries, aluminum is added to products like table salt (to make it free flowing). New Zealand salt seems to contain silica for this purpose. It can in fact be in a whole range of products. Many of them are indicated on labelling by a number. You can access a list of food additives in a list like this (also available in PDF form):
Thanks for correcting the URL, I noticed it after uploading :roll:
There is a report on this site called, UPI asks, "Where's All the Autistic Amish?".
It says the incidence of autism in their community is small and not in line with the numbers the mainstream scientific concensus say it should be. The report also talks about a child from China who was adopted into the Amish community who was severely autistic. She had vaccines administered before coming to live with them.
There are also stories on the website of parents having success with using Chelation therapy. Their children have been able to overcome their autism and progress to being normal and healthy again. It is explained like this:
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The most direct way to remove toxic metals from the body is through chelation. Chelation (key-LAY-shun) therapy is a simple process by which an agent is administered that binds to heavy metals and helps flush them from the body. Chelation is derived from the Latin "chele", or claw, as in to pinch the metal and hold it like the claws of a crab. Chelation can be given through a variety of forms (oral, transdermal, intravenous) and with a variety of chelating agents (DMPS, DMSA, EDTA, PCA-RX, NDF, Chlorella, Cilantro, Garlic, and ALA, to name some of the most common agents).
Good to hear that people have been able to do something about the situation.
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:22 am Post Subject: Mercury free vaccines prove decline in autism
A report from www.a-champ.org published earlier this year, tells that there is verifiable evidence of a decline in autism in children since thimerosal has been removed from vaccines:
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The study examined the trend for cases of autism during the period beginning 1994 and ending 2002 compared with the period from 2002 to June, 2005. The trends for increases and decreases of cases of autism found in the VAERS national database were consistent with the trends found in the CDDC California database. Most significantly, in each database the increasing and decreasing trends correlate with the time that the exposure to thimerosal through the immunization schedule was increased and then decreased after removal of mercury containing vaccines. “The consistency of the effects observed for the spectrum of NDs, including autism and speech disorders, and the agreement between the observations from two separate databases, support the conclusion that the effect is real and not a chance observation.” The study found that the magnitude of the change in the decreasing trend of cases was significant after removal of mercury from vaccines. Data from the U.S. Department of Education, a third database, showed a recent decrease of autism diagnoses that is consistent with the findings in the two databases.
This flies in the face of earlier assurances from medical authorities that the vaccines posed no risk:
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The authors point out that their finding that the VAERS and CDDS databases show strong associations between thimerosal containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders completely contradicts the 2004 findings contained in a report published by the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences – which was based on data controlled exclusively by the Center for Disease Control’s National Immunization Program and unavailable to outside researchers. In arguing that their study’s findings justify additional research the authors point out that the handling of vaccine safety data by the Centers for Disease Control has been called into serious question in a 2005 report published by the Institute of Medicine.
this link is a big eye opener i wished i had seen it before i had my kids done.
I deeply regret it now, the goverment mislead myself and others on this one just to line the pockets of greedy drug companys. Its all part of the NWO plan
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:09 pm Post Subject: Fears raised over Meningococcal vaccination efficacy
Didn't I read an article recently that health officials were trumpeting the success of the vaccination program? This article in the Herald today seems to shed rather a different light on things...
NZ Herald wrote:
...The data showed that for the six months to May 2006, there had been proportionately as many cases of the epidemic strain of the meningococcal disease in fully vaccinated children (1.1 per 100,000) as there had been in partially vaccinated and unvaccinated children (1.2 per 100,000).
Ministry of Health authorities rubbished the claims, and said that parents who immunised their children could have complete faith in the vaccine, which they said was 80 per cent effective...
The above video is a quick summary on how good(not) vaccine are it is Ozzie and New Zealand based although a little old (1998) but you will get facts and figures very quick and then freak out and wanna kick your doctors butt then the Goverments for not telling you.
I suggest you do some more research on NWO(united nations) etc etc before seeing the next video otherwise it may seem a little to out there for you.
The news reported this week of a child dying from meningitis in the Waikato region. No comfort to parents who vaccinated their children that there is still a risk of contracting it.
Why aren’t additional points being emphasized for people to help themselves i.e. taking Vitamin C? It seems from the news that vaccinations are the ONLY way to protect oneself. Certainly it is being pushed more as an annual antidote to fight the common cold.
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:52 am Post Subject: yeah whats the point
I'm not totally clear what the point of the vaccines is, they certainly have no effect what so ever in protecting people against anything(no really).
They contain deadly poisoness agents, have been directly linked to causing death, brain damage, ill health, symptoms of severe illness.
so why does the goverment inforce taking them by means of misleading or factless incorrect information, pressuring parents through the school system.
one thing is clear large international pharmaceutical companies make a ton of money, New Zealand MP's get paid stupidly large money to be consultants to large international pharmaceutical companies. The world bank and Co. put weird conditions on countries when they borrow money(eg. NZ).
There are documents around which originate from the UN, World Bank, US etc etc stating the planet is over populated and they need to kill off X amount of people every year.....hmmm....some suggestions were
1) Wars
2) Agents in water supply
3) control of food supplies and chemical agents within
4) Vaccines
5) Aeral spraying
6) etc etc
food for thought.
Unfortunately I have already had my kids vaccinated ( they have already had some of the deseases they were vaccinated for since the shots.) but they will not get there boosters.
Another thought I have is that a lot of children will be coming up for there extra booster shots, this could be a calculated media leak to push parents into the booster shots.
