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Hi Everyone,
There is a new website set up to disseminate information regarding climategate, which includes reports from Copenhagen from someone honest: http://climategate.tv/
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:48 pm Post Subject:
All great stuff guys! That Close Up poll backs up exactly what I was saying solo, cheers! And smash, that cartoon is fantastic, will be passing that around! You should send it to Rense - maybe he'll post it on his frontpage :wink:
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:52 pm Post Subject:
from the Close Up article wrote:
Morgan did not appreciate the significance of the e-mails that were leaked from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, and evidently was unaware that “man-made global warming” has been exposed as a giant hoax.
I remember saying to someone years ago that Gareth Morgan was the most arrogant, weasly little @$#&!!* I'd ever seen speaking on public TV (when I still watched it frequently). I stick by that to this day. What a complete c*ck!
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:19 am Post Subject:
A quick look at the 6pm news on TV3 tonight though and you'd never think there was any resistance at all to the global warming cult. No mention of the alternative conference, no mention of the third world countries walking out. Just a big lead-in about the (provocoteur-led) pro-climate-change protesters demanding action to get the thing all signed up. What fools these people are! Here's yet another example of how stupid and devoid of any actual knowledge these "save-the-world" greenshirt cultists are (the volume's pretty low so turn up your speakers/stereo) -
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:32 am Post Subject:
And this one is just beautiful! As much as I really don't like to call people idiots this kind of thing is a clear indication of how much people can be led...
"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."
"It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge."
"It is not truth that matters, but victory."
Which leads us to this one -
"It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true."
- Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace
And to finish there's this -
"I had no idea that after I left in 1986 they would evolve into a band of scientific illiterates... Clearly, my former Greenpeace colleagues are either not reading the morning paper or simply don't care about the truth."
- Patrick Moore, Greenpeace co-founder, writing in Canada’s National Post
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:44 am Post Subject:
And how about this excerpt from a large article called "Hitler Was A Socialist" (source link at the bottom) -
The greens. Here's a quote which may sound very familiar -- at least in part. "We recognise that separating humanity from nature, from the whole of life, leads to humankind's own destruction and to the death of nations. "Only through a re-integration of humanity into the whole of nature can our people be made stronger . .
"This striving toward connectedness with the totality of life, with nature itself, a nature into which we are born, this is the deepest meaning and the true essence of National Socialist thought."
That was Ernst Lehmann, a leading biologist under the Nazi regime, in 1934, and he wasn't alone. Hitler, for one, was an avid vegetarian and green, addicted to homoepathic cures. His regime sponsored the creation of organic farming, and SS leader Heinrich Himmler even grew herbs on his own organic farm with which to treat his beloved troops.
HITLER also banned medical experiments on animals, but not, as we know to our grief, on Jewish children. And he created many national parks, particularly for Germany's "sacred" forests.
This isn't a coincidence. The Nazis drew heavily on a romantic, anti-science, nature worshipping, communal and anti-capitalist movement that tied German identity to German forests. In fact, Professor Raymond Dominick notes in his book, The Environmental Movement in Germany, two-thirds of the members of Germany's main nature clubs had joined the Nazi Party by 1939, compared with just 10 per cent of all men.
The Nazis also absorbed the German Youth Movement, the Wandervogel, which talked of our mystical relationship with the earth. Peter Staudenmaier, co-author of Ecofascism: Lessons from the German Experience, says it was for the Wandervogel that the philosopher Ludwig Klages wrote his influential essay Man and Earth in 1913.
In it, Klages warned of the growing extinction of species, the destruction of forests, the genocide of aboriginal peoples, the disruption of the ecosystem and the killing of whales. People were losing their relationship with nature, he warned.
Heard all that recently? I'm not surprised. This essay by this notorious anti-Semite was republished in 1980 to mark the birth of the German Greens -- the party that inspired the creation of our own Greens party.
Its message is much as Hitler's own in Mein Kampf: "When people attempt to rebel against the iron logic of nature, they come into conflict with the very same principles to which they owe their existence as human beings. Their actions against nature must lead to their own downfall."
Why does this matter now? Because we must learn that people who want animals to be treated like humans really want humans to be treated like animals.
We must realise a movement that stresses "natural order" and the low place of man in a fragile world, is more likely to think man is too insignificant to stand in the way of Mother Earth, or the Fatherland, or some other man-hating god.
We see it already. A Greenpeace co-founder, Paul Watson, called humans the "AIDS of the earth", and one of the three key founders of the German Greens, Herbert Gruhl, said the environmental crisis was so acute the state needed perhaps "dictatorial powers".
And our growing church of nature worshippers insist that science make way for their fundamentalist religion, bringing us closer to a society in which muscle, not minds, must rule.
It's as a former head of Greenpeace International, Patrick Moore, says: "In the name of speaking for the trees and other species, we are faced with a movement that would usher in an era of eco-fascism."
This threat is still small. But if we don't resist it today, who knows where it will sweep us tomorrow?
Hi there, Smash's event poster pictured earlier in this thread, features a small nazi flag (bottom left corner) whereas when you click on to his website his poster there of the same advertised event does not have the image? What's up with that?
yes good point about the devide and conquer. but diffinitely you must admit the science behind the man made global warming scam and carbon credits is a bit dodgy? and all the propaganda that goes along with it is sickening?
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:36 pm Post Subject:
Deano wrote:
Hi there, Smash's event poster pictured earlier in this thread, features a small nazi flag (bottom left corner) whereas when you click on to his website his poster there of the same advertised event does not have the image? What's up with that?
Hi Deano :) The "version" of the poster you refer to in this thread was in my post. I simply took the original image and edited it myself to reflect the true ideology behind the green movement! (see my later linked article "Hitler Was A Socialist"). If you look horizontally opposite the swastika you will see nazi party members giving the "Heil Hitler!" salute. I assumed of course that most people seeing it would recognise the very obvious satire! :wink:
solo, thanks for posting those links - just got back from a trip south so first post I checked. Maybe some of the sheep out there might actually see this and wonder wth's going on. Probably not.... I'll pass on though in an attempt to try and stimulate at least one or two braincells out there :wink:
