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ruapaka



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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:33 pm    Post Subject: 8 / 9 August 09 - Marlborough  

Kia ora

Of late, my PC time has been limited - hence the delay ... apologies.

The 8th and 9th were ripe for PTs. Northbound, southbound and westbound traffic leaving mostly PTs ... I also observed some short contrails, some long contrails, some persistent fragments, and sometimes nothing being laid.

There was a lot of high altitude whisp cirrus - quite the norm for PT days .... I have recently pondered where the sylph like forms have gone ... it's been a while (6 months +) since I have observed anything to note.

Anyway .... here are some pics to share ... I have a query re pics 7 & 8

8 August

1. Westbound - late avo. Not a busy flight path ... when a plane on this path leaves a PT, it's usually a goodun, and more often than not it is fragmented, (see pic 2)


2. ... fragment of above trail ... this hung there for over an hour - minimal drift.



3. I adjusted the contrast and brightness to try and show width of this very faint but extensive band drifting eastward. I could see the faint outline all the way - the camera didn't quite get it all. I was surprised to see this band - the only source of the band was a 'long contrail' observed approx. 20 mins earlier - but I passed it off as nothing - dissipating regularly and quickly (but not completely as seems) ... mmm



4. Southbound - leaving PT.



5. sunset - typical of day further west ... note the PT remnants (lower-right), the same PT as in pic #1.



6. closeup of above ...


9 August

7. Mid morning -northbound PT ... typical looking ... nice and straight .. then .....



8. ... it veers to the east ... and I got it on camera ... I am intrigued by this and am very interested in any thoughts on WHY this would happen .... I have seen this happen 4 times over the last 6 months (approx) - never before that - and all obs in the same area!! ... I saw one plane sweep east far enough to go around the hill top. Why is there such a shift in the flight path?



9. ... unusual to see PTs morph like this ...



10. Northbound - usual flight path.
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Crakka



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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:29 am    Post Subject:  

Great photos again ruapaka, thanks for sharing :wink: Certainly some interesting stuff going on there!
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schadow2012



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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:40 pm    Post Subject:  

fantastic thax ruapaka
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solohawke



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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:31 pm    Post Subject:  

nice photos ruapaka, some of those trails arnt dissapearing very quickly by the looks, isnt that odd.
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ruapaka



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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:10 am    Post Subject:  

Thanks for the comments :-)

Solohawk .. I have noticed lately that many PTs appear to dissipate quite quickly without the usuall visible build up of widening band etc - but a thin band can be barely seen. Less visible may be the objective ??

A couple of days later (11th) was pretty much total cloud cover with impending rain. Although, through the odd break in the lower clouds I was able to glimpse several northbound PTs - they drifted eastward and dissipated quickly - (windy). I managed to get a couple of images (below)

It was a busy air traffic avo for a Tuesday ... if there was no low cloud we would be saying blitz. I imagine there would be advantages from dropping particles+ into rain clouds. OR maybe they are going hard out while they can't be seen. ??

1. 2:59pm 2 x northbound PT


2. 3:00pm .. freshly laid and not so fresh PTs


3. 90 secs later ... same PTs. as #2 pic


4. 3:39pm. 1 x fresh northbound PT.
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Crakka



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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:42 am    Post Subject:  

I posted some photos similar to shot 2 above a short while ago. The interesting thing was that the trail was right over Auckland City - something you don't see very often. I tend to think the same thing when I see this happen on cloudy days - they're "making haste while the sun doesn't shine"! :wink:
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solohawke



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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:18 pm    Post Subject:  

Have you ever seen the polymar on the ground after heavy rian bought on by trails that a few obserbvers have mentioned? I have seen photos but not in person. In the photos it looked like white foam.
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