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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:56 pm Post Subject: is Dr Stepehn Greer for Real? Or a trained disinfo agent ?
Hi
I find this very interesting as i did have a lot of respect for the apparently very spiritually aware manner in which Dr Stephen Greer portrays himself, especially in the book /HIDDEN TRUTH/ – FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE.
If one were to have any criticism of all of Sr Greer it would be that as someone who has the capacity and where-with-all to talk to the world's best inventors and offer funding for their inventions etc, how come, after several years there is still nothing?!
In the last 2 days on the very good and (very reputable, in my opinion) Project Camelot website www.projectcamelot.org i was rather dismayed to read this:
25 July 09 -
On Dr Steven Greer:
We listened to his presentation today and learned that he is stating to the world that the secret government has no ongoing dealings with any ET races -- the worst kind of disinfo. He is also telling people that ALL ETs and interdimensionals are positively oriented -- in other words STO (service-to-others) -- and this is also false. Many are friendly... but some are hostile.
The trouble with this type of approach is that it leaves the fate of Earth and humanity vulnerable to take over and interference by races who do not have our best interests in mind (or heart). In doing so, he ignores the critical issue of sovereignty for humanity and this planet within the galactic community.
We do not agree with Greer's position and consider this dangerous and insidious.
As a final statement, we were disappointed to learn that our interview request was declined by him: it would have been an interesting and valuable conversation.
--Kerry (Cassidy)
And then this too.....
/*"27 July 2009 - update 2*/
• Regarding the incident at the end of the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit, we have investigated it to the degree possible. We interviewed the inventors who felt they were threatened, we talked to observers of the events, and we met with Dr Steven Greer and his bodyguards and assistants.
We understand that what happened was largely due to a lack of understanding of the language (for the inventors, English is a second language) and something said during the Speaker's Dinner by Steven Greer himself in response to a request by an inventor to discuss his invention. When Dr Greer was disturbed at dinner, his first response was /"I could kill you",/ which his entourage explained was a joke but was taken seriously by the inventor who had approached him.
Two other inventors claimed that when they approached Greer - in entirely separate incidents - he admonished them that unless they worked with him it was unlikely that they would get anywhere with their device. This they took as a threat rather than as a realistic statement from someone who has spent years working to break through the secrecy surrounding Free Energy.
These three inventors approached Greer independently during the conference. When the person who approached him at dinner heard the American /"I could kill you"/ joke, shaken and shocked, he shared his experience with his friends. The others also compared their interactions with Greer and, now united in their upset, they all went to enlist the assistance of a well known and respected radical journalist who is known in Spain as Rafa.
Rafa took their accusations seriously, and together they became determined to go on stage, tell the conference what had happened, and ask Greer to confirm what he had said. The group were not given a chance to speak on stage, and so their questions to Greer were never answered.
One could easily see how fear might be motivating the confused perceptions of many of those involved. And after asking Dr Greer to account for what had happened, it seems clear that he made no overt threats of any kind.
However, we can sympathize with the inventors who made these claims. We understand that they well may have perceived Greer (who is knowledgeable, self-assured, and often very verbally assertive) as threatening in a non-verbal way which when combined with the very sensitive subject of Free Energy, about which all are very passionate, fueled this misunderstanding at a cultural level.
It's important to state that we do not know enough about Dr Steven Greer and his business dealings concerning Free Energy to conclude what else may be going on behind the scenes to create this misunderstanding on many levels... not just the physical reality."
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:49 am Post Subject:
I 'spose it depends who you "trust" if indeed you can trust anyone but yourself ;-) I don't know anyone on either side of this so without any real experience/knowledge it's impossible to form an informed opinion...