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Crakka
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:27 pm Post Subject: "Orb" Photography |
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(WARNING: Just over 2MB of photos below so dialup people might wanna go get the jug on!)
A young member of our family got given a Fujifilm FinePix J15fd camera with a 1GB card onboard and now takes photos of pretty much anything & everything! That includes views of all kinds of things like panoramic vistas to just shots of trees and things in the garden at varying degrees of light & dark as well as the usual friends, family & animal photos. Quite the little photography fan!
Last night we picked up a table to shift it from one end of the Waitakeres t'other. Our photographer was snapping all kinds of stuff as usual but the shots taken looking into the bush and sky at night out on the way to Bethells around 7.30pm produced some very interesting results as you're about to see! What was discovered on the first photos was showed to us rather excitedly ie.WTH?! Of course I said to take more and see what happens and they just kept coming up with the same stuff. Photos taken a couple of hours earlier in Titirangi had no sign of the same thing on them but shots taken an hour later in Glendene had some more amazing looking stuff on them.
A consequent quick google image search (for want of a better non-IP recording search engine!) revealed a screed of images labelled "orb" photos or the like which looked almost identical in both form and number etc.
I'd really like to get some feedback on this as to me it definitely looks like some kind of capture of "something" (even if it's just some kind of weird light thing) but being no photography expert or even having no real experience at persuing this king of thing I'm willing to hear any and all opinions as to the authenticity of this type of phenomena. I realise from the earlier post I made of orb-like shapes appearing on daytime photos out at Huia that it's near impossible to verify anything but I also know that these digital cameras have a minimal ability to capture a certain degree of infrared imaging. Certainly looks to me like some kind of strange light phenomena has been captured here at least. Anyway here we go...
Photos are named with original numbering as they came from the camera and have not been enhanced in any way. I've only resized them & done a few zooms.
The first couple were taken in Titirangi around 5.30pm showing no signs of anything that could be considered an "anomaly" or camera blip. Both these ones had good dark areas so you can see there's nothing there -
Next ones were taken out on the way to Bethells looking towards a bush reserve going up quite a high hill on the other side of Te Henga Road. No lights were visible in this area apart from a few stars higher up meaning they could possibly show up on some photos only but would be right at the top of the frame if they are. Zooms that follow the main shots are of the brightest objects and to me most of these exhibit a strange "cell-like" appearance with a type of thicker "cell wall" visible. The really bright ones just blew us away as it was a dark area we were looking at by eye with, as I already said, no visible lights. BTW, the moon was nowhere in the vacinity either -
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Next ones were all taken in Glendene around 8.30pm, all pretty much looking at the same area. The area between the trees in these shots was an area where the least amount of stars was visible and is taken at a lowish angle (as opposed to looking "up" at the sky) to minimize the chance of catching stars in the frame. There was also very few lights in this area with the only ones that can really be seen being the orange street lights towards the lower part of the frame. The deck shot was taken to see if the "things" could be seen lower down and closer to the camera position. For a touch of the bizarre though check out the ying & yang in this next shot & its zooms!!!
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This is the next shot in the sequence. Nothing different done here at all but as you can see almost zero "orbs" or at least none bright enough to stand out!
And then three shots later they're back! Check out the weird cell-like appearance of the bright one, especially in the zoom. Some odd colouration and what looks like a little "piece" trailing off to the lower right -
(John & Melody, I have the originals straight off the camera at full size if you feel the need to look at any of them further although they are only jpgs. All are just over 2MB each.) |
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Crakka
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:51 pm Post Subject: |
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There's a few things in that last shot that look a little odd or different to the rest. Here's one of them at 100% and 200% & 300% zoom -
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ruapaka
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:50 am Post Subject: |
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Hi Crakka
Although I did not wait for the images to completely download (no surprises there - dial up an' all), I think I can give some info about the captured 'orbs' . Dust spots .... common with in-built flash - the light source is too close to the lens ...dust spots only visible when flash used. Photographers use external flash devices to avoid the capture of dust spots. (Some folk think they are fairies or the like ... nah, just dust.) |
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secondfield
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:26 pm Post Subject: |
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Methinks a little experiment could be in order here ... add some dust to the lens of your boys's camera Crakka and do some before and after (cleaning)shots in the same spot, same lighting conditions.
Of course, this does not discount possible dust on the inside of the lens or the CCD imager, at which point the spots should appear in the same place (in theory at least). Possibly dust being illuminated from different light angles will image in different areas of the CCD - hence a stable tripod being required to steady the camera. |
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Crakka
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:31 pm Post Subject: |
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| Thanks guys. Obviously I was looking for the simple explanation first and as I've said, I'm no photography expert, so was hoping someone would come up with something like this. Hence I headed the thread with inverted commas thus "Orb". By the looks of the images that came up on our quick search there's a truckload of people out there that think they've captured something very mysterious with their little digital cameras then! 'Tis good having this great forum to throw stuff at and having a little experience come back with suggestions :wink: Thanks again! |
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Crakka
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:33 pm Post Subject: |
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| Oh btw... what did you think of the ying & yang "dust spot" though? Quite an odd one that ay :-) |
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ruapaka
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:37 pm Post Subject: |
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back again ... googled some info ...
| Quote: | Due to the size limitations of the modern compact and ultra-compact cameras, especially digital cameras, the distance between the lens and the built-in flash has decreased, thereby decreasing the angle of light reflection to the lens and increasing the likelihood of light reflection off normally sub-visible particles. Hence, the orb artifact is commonplace with small digital or film camera photographs.
The orb artifact can result from reflection of light off solid particles (e.g., dust, pollen), liquid particles (water droplets - especially rain) or other foreign material within the camera lens.
The image artifacts usually appear as either white or semi-transparent circles, though may also occur with whole or partial color spectrums, purple fringing or other chromatic aberration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orb_(paranormal). |
also ... there's a diagram and more examples here ....
http://www.photospace.co.nz/strange_orbs.htm |
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Crakka
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:03 pm Post Subject: |
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| Ahhh that second link was great info. Thanks ruapaka, will pass that on to everyone :wink: Case solved by the looks. |
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Tranceformer
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:09 pm Post Subject: |
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Maybe someone oughta tell this lady i met last week in Oz.
http://www.earth-angel.com.au/ Author of a book on Orbs and as she is psychic apparently she sees them :D |
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steve clougher
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:20 pm Post Subject: orbituary? ....hang on a minute |
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thanks for the link, tranceformer, she calls these orbs, "the all-seeing eye of God"..........more likely, some filthy neocon spy-tech
i've seen something similar once, came floating slowly past our house, looked about six to twelve inches in diameter, and forty yards away, as i recall
i watched it for a minute, then went inside for the binoculars, when i got it in the binocs, it immediately shot up, at greatly increased speed
from other anecdotal evidence, i connect this with spy technology which is allegedly associated with the mobile phone network, and google earth.....to have someone like that link call it the "all-seeing eye of God" only adds to my suspicions
this does not mean i don't believe in digital light bubbles, or God, either
but i don't think what i saw was an angel, or any other kind of "super-advanced spirit being", if it was, it was also unaccountably shy |
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schadow2012
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:24 am Post Subject: |
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woh mate - i just finally watched the original They Live and that seems to me that situation of the floating nosey floaters
btw off subject but stll flying - did you guys hear the news of "someone pushed a wrong button" and the passengers heard "we are going to crash into the sea" ?
damn man - even when there is no problem THEY (lol who r they again) MAKE a problem ........ :roll: |
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schadow2012
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:44 am Post Subject: |
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| sorry people i get a talk on -but hey Steve they must have freaked you out - i think i have photos of these nosey orbs from pics i took down in Queenstown a few years before i started taking notice |
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