Mysteries, Chemtrails, Aerosols :: Mysterious NZ

[secondfield]

In a surprise announcement today Kordia (formerly known as BCL, broadcast communications ltd) have announced the rollout of a TETRA based digital radio system.

From all accounts the network has already been built (with taxpayers money) and is waiting to become operational. The allocation of frequencies pending.

Surprisingly, they will struggle to attract customers to utilise this costly enterprise (radio's will be almost $2000 per set), and most people still use teamtalk, and existing analog / digital hybrid system. The police and emergency services wont touch it, because it purely digital and the extensive coverage thye need wont be there.

Apart from being a complete waste of taxpayer money, it seems the govt, for one reason or another is pushing digital radio / HDTV. We all know that analog TV will be switched over to digital over the next few years. This (TETRA) may be a concession to Kordia (state owned) for the govt removing millions of dollars of revenue from them when analog gets switched off...

TETRA will be a flop here, but there may be other reasons why the govt wants it in...

http://www.planningsanity.co.uk/reports/trower.htm

[secondfield]

Actually, that link above is a bit waffling ..

Try this one..

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg70501.html

[Niksta]

Isn't that a typo, shouldn't it be TERRA - as in the feeling of knowing the TPTB are erecting devices that are potentially deadly.
Around the burbs and hills around here it's like a porcupine with so many towers up.
I had a discussion with a tech and an electrician and they both assured me it was all perfectly safe.
Trouble with that is, it's a load of hooey - you don't need an expert to tell you how peaceful it feels when there is a powercut, your body knows.

Anyhoo, good post secondfield, we have to be aware of the whole shibang, no matter how scary.

[secondfield]

Yeah, well im a radio tech also. The inverse square law applies to these RF fields, they are actually piddling at distance but we dont understand the full biological effects of these yet. Although most of the older radio guys i know live to ripe old ages and are very lucid. The whole bloody argument is polarised one way or another. Personally I think we rapidly adapt our metabolisim to enviromental changes in a positive way.

If some poor bugger from a couple of hundred years ago were suddenly dumped in the middle of our urban enviroment they'd be dead after their first feed of macdonalds...loud heavy metal would probably kill them! haha.

[Crakka]

Haha! Probably true secondfield :wink:

Now this post is very timely! I was almost gonna post something myself about all the new microwave stuff going up all over my area, especially in one particular well populated new suburb along a ridge leading up to the foothills of the Waitakere Ranges. Looks like all the old cellphone relays are being replaced with things at least twice the size plus there's extra ones being erected in between for better coverage I guess. If we weren't getting zapped too heavily before we most certainly are gonna be from now on imho. Some of these things on poles are looking pretty large although one I saw had the "cover" off one side and it looks like there was 4 units replacing the 1 that was originally there with a cover over them making it look like 1 big unit.

Man our landscapes being absolutely littered with this stuff now! It's crazy s-h-i-t!

As for technicians & electricians saying it's "all perfectly safe" isn't that just like staff down the line in any large company just passing down information from above? Even doctors will tell you info about drugs that is simply information passed down from drug companies. Definitely doesn't mean it's true yet we're just expected to swallow it like everyone else because "experts" told us so. Common sense in this community :wink:

[Niksta]

heh, chroo enough, in fact I spoke to an old cocky who said the DDT salesman came around to his house aeons ago and told him
"it was so safe you could almost drink it!" :shock:

[secondfield]

Hey Crakka, if you get a chance, can you please post some pic's of the Waitakere installations?

[Niksta]

secondfield, your a tech, that's fantastic, if we get some serious research and sharing going, it will be great to have a professional perspective.

And yes the guy I spoke to was aware of 'some' of the cancer / cell tower research, and told me NZ towers signal is quite weak compared with some overseas, and indeed it appears to be harmless at a distant.

BUT

What about the similar situation with the stuff that goes into our bodies, ( food, sunscreen, oinkments etc) like any individual component by itself may be harmless but combined with another and another and you have a potential lethal cocktail.
The world never seems to think along these lines.
If you hair doesn't turn green overnight, it must be perfectly ok. NOT!!!

[Crakka]

[Crakka]

Here's a bunch of photos for ya secondfield - hope they show enough detail (didn't feel like climbing up there!). Only snapped one shot of the newer type and then some others a short distance along the route I was travelling just to show how many there are in this short distance. There's many, many others radiating out from the area I was in.

This is the newest one on Summerland Drive, Western Heights (Henderson) which is off Sturges Road. It's a big sucker! Pretty sure it's this one I saw with the cover off and there's 4 units inside there (if it wasn't this one then it was another exactly the same in a nearby area).



A few hundred metres up the road at the junction of Summerland & Sturges Road are these 2. Pretty sure the one on the left was there first and the one on the right was added some time later.



Then about a kilometre away on Henderson Valley Road heading back towards Henderson Central are these 2 older beasts right near each other -



A further few hundred metres down the same road is this one -



And a feature that dominates the Henderson skyline from many different angles is this monstrosity sticking up from the Henderson Police HQ -

[Niksta]

buhjeebers! That is utterly spooky. Giant electrical monsters - Looks like the science fiction nightmare has truly arrived :(

[schadow2012]

crickey crakka - and thats not even taking into account the ones popping up all over the nor-western motorway :shock: (henderson area also - 4 those lucky cohorts that arent familiar with auckland) 8-[

[Crakka]

Yeah that's just a small sample along one driving route too! As I said there's many more on roads and on plots of land radiating out in all directions.

Even though you see them on a daily basis it's not until you purposely drive along like this taking photos or counting them that you realise just how many are actually around now and how bloody big some of them are too! And they seem to be putting new ones up everywhere you go! Seeing some of these really big multi-unit towers only every few hundred metres in places IS kinda freaky.

It just reminds how easily/quickly sheeple get acclimatised to things just popping up in their midst and how they just accept them as normal especially when experts KEEP saying everything's ok, everything's safe, don't worry...

[Niksta]

Ahhh I was gonna ask, coz a mate of mine from Upper Henderson told me they had towers along the motorway itself, and I couldn't comprehend, even though I believed him.
He actually worked in London briefly in a building that had one attached to it and reckoned he got a hideous headache for 3 solid days!

It's true enough Crakka, the sheeple do get used to seeing stuff and don't see it anymore. It is in fact a human fault normally, but then you throw other lovelies into the mix like zombifiing frequencies, dead food, medical poison, media trauma and Viola!
A nation of zombatrons from hell!!! All nicely passive and ready for Soylent Beans, i mean Green. :D

[secondfield]

Thanks for that Crakka.

The problem is several telco's have all been allocated spectrum for the same damn services (that is cellular) and as they upgrade their systems from CDMA to 3G all the sites have to be re- built, and re-located. the ones situated on light poles may well be 2.4ghz wireless internet services. The ones in the third and fourth picture are old 027 telecom sites (still operational) and the one at the cop shop im intrigued by... Generally they just utilise analouge VHF spectrum for their communications so you would just see a vertical 'whip' type antenna poking up from their mast. Although they may be utilising some sort of broadband connectivity these days to transmit images etc from mobile cameras.. dunno, cant really identify what antenna types they have up there properly...

Here in Wellington, we havent got the saturation that you guy's have got up there, although with more sites they claim they can lower the transmitter power well below the minimum safety levels. Its also about economics, build more = more money and maintenence costs (a bit like those windmills for power generation) .Looking at the panel antennas on them Id still say they are capable of fairly high gain (16-21dBm). Depends on what the RF input power is though. Get a simple RF meter and wander around getting readings off them. We used to do that here in the weekends,found all of them are within govt safety levels (only measured for THERMAL effects but) except one site which was a vodafone HQ on Adeliade road (our vid is posted on you tube - RF awareness).

I heard of one disgruntled citizen running over the equipment terminal boxes next to them (green ones) in his bull barred 4WD. OOps. Another guy told me about someone with a permanent ink paint gun doing drive buy's on corporate billboards splattering them unreadable. They cost thousands you know!. OOps..


Ever been up into the Waitakere ranges to that huge concrete building that houses the heavy duty broadcast transmitters? Bruce Cathie was fascinated by it...

[Crakka]

[secondfield]

Youl probably find the 'globe' one is the airways corporation radar for the area. The other masts will more than likely be analouge tv broadcasting arrays. with a few commercial fm antennae thrown in for good measure.

[Crakka]

Took me a while to get my A into G but here's a better photo of the mast at the Henderson Police HQ secondfield.



Thought this one was quite good too - surveillance camera in the foreground & police mast in the background hehe :D -



And... "The sheeple are starting to wake up! Quick send a crew out to Summerland Road and get them to double the output of that new thought control tower, ahem, I mean cellphone relay!"

[Crakka]

Btw, those surveillance cameras are turning up on more and more traffic intersections out west and not just major ones as you'd expect. My guess is that before too long they'll have every signal controlled intersection covered.

[Niksta]

[Crakka]

Yep, yes & yeah :wink:

Sorry to wander off topic slightly but how's the bs emotive psychology in that speech -

"...the undeniable reality of climate change..." (spoken with added gusto in that sentence)

And then of course there's just all that pomp & symbology in this picture (gag!) -

[Niksta]

Yeps, the B grade sci fi horror movie rumbles on relentlessly :D

The G of G20 wouldn't be this G would it?